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Police in Vancouver Arrest Man for Nearly Running Down Antifa Protesters With His Tru

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Police in Vancouver Arrest Man for Nearly Running Down Antifa Protesters With His Truck

Police in Vancouver this afternoon arrested a man after a Patriot Prayer rally when he nearly ran his truck into a crowd of antifascist counter-protesters.

After a rally organized by the right-wing group Patriot Prayer, antifascist protesters marched north into downtown Vancouver along Columbia Avenue.

A black Chevy Silverado with Oregon plates and two large American flags and several small flags hanging from its windows (along with a Confederate flag decal displayed on the back window of the cab) drove up to the marchers. It was driving slowly down a street flanked by people dressed in black bloc clothing.

As the crowd parted to clear the way for the truck to move forward, protesters filled the street behind it and started throwing rocks and water bottles at the truck.

The driver suddenly put his vehicle in reverse and accelerated toward the protesters. As he sped up, people jumped out of the street.
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Police in Vancouver Arrest Man for Nearly Running Down Antifa Protesters With His Truck - Willamette Week

If one’s an incident, two’s a coincidence, and three’s a pattern. Let's hope a third doesn't happen, I'd hate to see this kind of thing turn into a pattern. I wonder what this whackjob's motivation was. It's fortunate that no one was injured before he was apprehended.

Oh, this is Vancouver WA, not to be confused with Vancouver BC.
 
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Hopefully he was just trying to scare them out of the way and would have stopped before actually hitting them. Either way that will probably be his argument in court.
 
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Skeptic Bob said:
Hopefully he was just trying to scare them out of the way and would have stopped before actually hitting them. Either way that will probably be his argument in court.
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Oh no doubt that will be his defense. It's still terrorism, whether he intended harm or not, he wanted to scare protesters out of protesting.
 
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ThoughtEx. said:
Police in Vancouver Arrest Man for Nearly Running Down Antifa Protesters With His Truck



Police in Vancouver Arrest Man for Nearly Running Down Antifa Protesters With His Truck - Willamette Week

If one’s an incident, two’s a coincidence, and three’s a pattern. Let's hope a third doesn't happen, I'd hate to see this kind of thing turn into a pattern. I wonder what this whackjob's motivation was. It's fortunate that no one was injured before he was apprehended.

Oh, this is Vancouver WA, not to be confused with Vancouver BC.
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There have been a number of attacks using this technique in Europe. Barriers have been or are being installed in many cities.
 
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ThoughtEx. said:
Oh no doubt that will be his defense. It's still terrorism, whether he intended harm or not, he wanted to scare protesters out of protesting.
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....but would be non violent. I think we need a new analysis of what free expression. We are becoming rather restrictive of what one may and may not say and do and apply it selectively.
 
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ThoughtEx. said:
Oh no doubt that will be his defense. It's still terrorism, whether he intended harm or not, he wanted to scare protesters out of protesting.
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It seems that the counter-protesters were trying to scare HIM out of protesting-- throwing rocks and water bottles isnt exactly peaceful either.
 
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joG said:
There have been a number of attacks using this technique in Europe. Barriers have been or are being installed in many cities.
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Yeah, but those are aimed at an indiscriminate group of people. These are targeting protesters, or so it seems so far. I'm afraid it will start being a "trend" for that purpose.
 
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Motivation? maybe this: As the crowd parted to clear the way for the truck to move forward, protesters filled the street behind it and started throwing rocks and water bottles at the truck.

A rock through the window can do lots of damage. A hit to the head can do great damage. Wonder if the guy would have try backing into the rock throwers if they did not throw throw rocks?
 
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Athanasius68 said:
It seems that the counter-protesters were trying to scare HIM out of protesting-- throwing rocks and water bottles isnt exactly peaceful either.
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Maybe one message should be that if you throw water bottles and rocks, or hit vehicles with bats, you could cause that driver to fear for his/her life resulting in erratic behavior that could result in people being killed. I hope that not only is he facing trial but all those that assaulted him, in his vehicle, as well. Who thought this was a good idea?
 
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A black Chevy Silverado with Oregon plates and two large American flags and several small flags hanging from its windows (along with a Confederate flag decal displayed on the back window of the cab) drove up to the marchers. It was driving slowly down a street flanked by people dressed in black bloc clothing. As the crowd parted to clear the way for the truck to move forward, protesters filled the street behind it and started throwing rocks and water bottles at the truck.

The driver suddenly put his vehicle in reverse and accelerated toward the protesters. As he sped up, people jumped out of the street. The driver continued to drive in reverse for nearly a block, stopping at the next intersection and revving his engine. The protesters yelled for everyone to clear the street and changed their path to escape the truck, walking down 6th Avenue to Washington Street. At that point, however, the truck re-appeared cutting the marchers off.

So he put his vehicle in reverse and accelerated backwards towards the protestors - then revved the engine and went after them again. The protestors got out of his way, and changed there path, but he drove to the new intersection and blocked them. I guess you can't say he was trying to escape. He was at the white pride rally that antifa was protesting - and he was taking a page from Charlottesville. It doesn't excuse the ******** who were throwing stuff at his car. But trying twice to run someone down is hardly a man fleeing for his life.
 
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Common Sense 1 said:
Motivation? maybe this: As the crowd parted to clear the way for the truck to move forward, protesters filled the street behind it and started throwing rocks and water bottles at the truck.

A rock through the window can do lots of damage. A hit to the head can do great damage. Wonder if the guy would have try backing into the rock throwers if they did not throw throw rocks?
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I firmly believe cops should have a policy of cordoning off automobiles from an area hosting a political demonstration. Including no masks, no weapons. I think it's time for a round table discussion at the White House for law enforcement to come to terms for dealing with this new phenom.

I'm also pretty sure that if Trump did suggest this, he'd be accused by the media of trying to stifle free speech.
 
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Nearly? Protesters need to get out of the streets....it's unsafe.
 
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MaggieD said:
I firmly believe cops should have a policy of cordoning off automobiles from an area hosting a political demonstration. Including no masks, no weapons. I think it's time for a round table discussion at the White House for law enforcement to come to terms for dealing with this new phenom.

I'm also pretty sure that if Trump did suggest this, he'd be accused by the media of trying to stifle free speech.
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Those are great suggestions. One problem is that protesters and counter protesters, especially those who do it without permits aren't going to stay in a nice box that is easy to cordon off. One of the things that the protesters / counter protesters want is chaos. They use it to threaten cities that do not bend to their will. Look at the protests by BLM, they want to shut down traffic and cause problems for the cities. Their rallying cry is "No Justice, No Peace". Outright they are advocating that there will be issues if they don't get this cop indicted or whatever. That's their entire goal.

As for masks? My state, Georgia actually has a law against any adult wearing a mask on any day other than Halloween, but most states do not have this law. Why would someone need to hide his or her face unless they knew what they were doing was wrong?

Weapons? That's some dangerous ground. You know first you ban guns, then you ban bats... How do you ban bottles and rocks? Can you ban fists?
 
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Southern Dad said:
Maybe one message should be that if you throw water bottles and rocks, or hit vehicles with bats, you could cause that driver to fear for his/her life resulting in erratic behavior that could result in people being killed. I hope that not only is he facing trial but all those that assaulted him, in his vehicle, as well. Who thought this was a good idea?
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Or also the message if you drive a jacked up 4 X 4 into a crowd of people reving your engine you could possibly cause some people to fear for their lives in light of the recent history of vehicle attacks and react in anger.

Both sides came for a fight.
 
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ThoughtEx. said:
Police in Vancouver Arrest Man for Nearly Running Down Antifa Protesters With His Truck



Police in Vancouver Arrest Man for Nearly Running Down Antifa Protesters With His Truck - Willamette Week

If one’s an incident, two’s a coincidence, and three’s a pattern. Let's hope a third doesn't happen, I'd hate to see this kind of thing turn into a pattern. I wonder what this whackjob's motivation was. It's fortunate that no one was injured before he was apprehended.

Oh, this is Vancouver WA, not to be confused with Vancouver BC.
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Great Job by LEOs; and no one died.

... and bet anything no one going to call this individual a Good Person or make excuses for their inexcusable actions.

Pay attention, this is how it's done.
 
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If I were there, I'd be one of those old guys in the upper right corner of the picture.


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MaggieD said:
I firmly believe cops should have a policy of cordoning off automobiles from an area hosting a political demonstration. Including no masks, no weapons. I think it's time for a round table discussion at the White House for law enforcement to come to terms for dealing with this new phenom.

I'm also pretty sure that if Trump did suggest this, he'd be accused by the media of trying to stifle free speech.
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Agree with you! One other thing that would really help is do not let opposing groups protest in the same area. The police need to
be between them so no trouble starts. But if it does the police need to take action ASAP. People who show up to break laws need
to be in jail!!
 
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ThoughtEx. said:
Police in Vancouver Arrest Man for Nearly Running Down Antifa Protesters With His Truck



Police in Vancouver Arrest Man for Nearly Running Down Antifa Protesters With His Truck - Willamette Week

If one’s an incident, two’s a coincidence, and three’s a pattern. Let's hope a third doesn't happen, I'd hate to see this kind of thing turn into a pattern. I wonder what this whackjob's motivation was. It's fortunate that no one was injured before he was apprehended.

Oh, this is Vancouver WA, not to be confused with Vancouver BC.
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protesters filled the street behind it and started throwing rocks and water bottles at the truck.
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I'd call his actions justified. He didn't harm anyone, he just tried to get them to stop attacking him. Self-defense laws generally allow a person to step up one level of violence in response to an attack. This guy was being attacked with rocks and bottles, so personally I'd say that he was within his legal rights to try to scare off the cowards.
 
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ThoughtEx. said:
Oh no doubt that will be his defense. It's still terrorism, whether he intended harm or not, he wanted to scare protesters out of protesting.
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No. he was responding to them attacking him.
 
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Angelus said:
A black Chevy Silverado with Oregon plates and two large American flags and several small flags hanging from its windows (along with a Confederate flag decal displayed on the back window of the cab) drove up to the marchers. It was driving slowly down a street flanked by people dressed in black bloc clothing. As the crowd parted to clear the way for the truck to move forward, protesters filled the street behind it and started throwing rocks and water bottles at the truck.

The driver suddenly put his vehicle in reverse and accelerated toward the protesters. As he sped up, people jumped out of the street. The driver continued to drive in reverse for nearly a block, stopping at the next intersection and revving his engine. The protesters yelled for everyone to clear the street and changed their path to escape the truck, walking down 6th Avenue to Washington Street. At that point, however, the truck re-appeared cutting the marchers off.

So he put his vehicle in reverse and accelerated backwards towards the protestors - then revved the engine and went after them again. The protestors got out of his way, and changed there path, but he drove to the new intersection and blocked them. I guess you can't say he was trying to escape. He was at the white pride rally that antifa was protesting - and he was taking a page from Charlottesville. It doesn't excuse the ******** who were throwing stuff at his car. But trying twice to run someone down is hardly a man fleeing for his life.
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At that point he was probably pretty pissed off about HIS rights being violated by these thugs. HE also may have been trying to stop them from escaping and hopefully allowing LE to deal with them. Also, were teh thugs who attacked arrested for their part?? Is there an investigation into finding these thugs and bringing them to justice? Is there any effort being made to prevetn these kind of attacks on a citizen for doing nothing more than legally driving down a street?? What about the thugs violation of HIS right to free speech??
 
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Angelus said:
A black Chevy Silverado with Oregon plates and two large American flags and several small flags hanging from its windows (along with a Confederate flag decal displayed on the back window of the cab) drove up to the marchers. It was driving slowly down a street flanked by people dressed in black bloc clothing. As the crowd parted to clear the way for the truck to move forward, protesters filled the street behind it and started throwing rocks and water bottles at the truck.

The driver suddenly put his vehicle in reverse and accelerated toward the protesters. As he sped up, people jumped out of the street. The driver continued to drive in reverse for nearly a block, stopping at the next intersection and revving his engine. The protesters yelled for everyone to clear the street and changed their path to escape the truck, walking down 6th Avenue to Washington Street. At that point, however, the truck re-appeared cutting the marchers off.

So he put his vehicle in reverse and accelerated backwards towards the protestors - then revved the engine and went after them again. The protestors got out of his way, and changed there path, but he drove to the new intersection and blocked them. I guess you can't say he was trying to escape. He was at the white pride rally that antifa was protesting - and he was taking a page from Charlottesville. It doesn't excuse the ******** who were throwing stuff at his car. But trying twice to run someone down is hardly a man fleeing for his life.
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What white pride rally?

And yes, it's good this guy was arrested. Let the police investigate and sort it out.
 
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Update!!
correction: This story originally said the driver of the silverado was arrested. In fact, he was handcuffed and placed in a patrol car but later released without arrest, according to a vancouver police spokeswoman. Ww regrets the error.
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When I was 10 I threw a rock at my friend. His dad was driving by and saw me, he ran me over with his Bronco because he was afraid I could have murdered his son. Luckily the rock missed and after I got out of ICU we called it a wash.
 
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faithful_servant said:
I'd call his actions justified. He didn't harm anyone, he just tried to get them to stop attacking him. Self-defense laws generally allow a person to step up one level of violence in response to an attack. This guy was being attacked with rocks and bottles, so personally I'd say that he was within his legal rights to try to scare off the cowards.
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If the media accounts are correct, I don't think his actions following this justify any kind of self-defense defense.
 
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ThoughtEx. said:
Police in Vancouver Arrest Man for Nearly Running Down Antifa Protesters With His Truck



Police in Vancouver Arrest Man for Nearly Running Down Antifa Protesters With His Truck - Willamette Week

If one’s an incident, two’s a coincidence, and three’s a pattern. Let's hope a third doesn't happen, I'd hate to see this kind of thing turn into a pattern. I wonder what this whackjob's motivation was. It's fortunate that no one was injured before he was apprehended.

Oh, this is Vancouver WA, not to be confused with Vancouver BC.
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Since the Anarchist cum Antifa movement originated in the Pac NW, I may have some sympathy of these people. I bet the average citizen has put up with these little ****s all dressed in black, who most certainly are one giant PITA, for a long time.
 
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