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Rahm Emanuel creates ‘Trump-free zone’ for students at Chicago schools

jimbo said:
And he should be thrown out also. We either have laws or we don't. All too often we don't.
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Laws can be changed, and should be when they're unjust.
All too often we just leave them and don't bother.
 
The Mark said:
It's a ****ed up world when good things are illegal and supporting good is frowned upon.
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What's the good here again? Supporting people that broke the law? Where is that good in anyone's books?
 
HenryChinaski said:
Reality? Ripping apart families, uprooting and destroying lives. That's reality. That's the "grey area" that conservatives are unable to comprehend . And you know what another reality is? That if somehow all of these young adults were from say Sweden, Denmark or Norway, some nation where they "look and act right", Trump and his base wouldn't be saying boo.[/QUOTE]

The hell they wouldn't. The trouble with the left is that everything boils down to color or race of gender.

Dennmark, Norway, or Canada, an illegal is an illegal.
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The Mark said:
Laws can be changed, and should be when they're unjust.
All too often we just leave them and don't bother.
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Nothing unjust about controlling the border, our immigration and how to handle people that violate the laws.
 
Renae said:
Nothing unjust about controlling the border, our immigration and how to handle people that violate the laws.
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Of course not.

The injustice or justice comes in how that is done.

It's unjust to punish children for the sins of their parents.
 
HenryChinaski said:
Reality? Ripping apart families, uprooting and destroying lives. That's reality.
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Question, is it the enforcement of the laws ripping the families "apart" or is it the choices of those parties that broke the law?

You have it ASS BACKWARDS HC, ass backwards. Nothing is stopping these families from moving back as a family to their country of origin.
HenryChinaski said:
That's the "grey area" that conservatives are unable to comprehend . And you know what another reality is? That if somehow all of these young adults were from say Sweden, Denmark or Norway, some nation where they "look and act right", Trump and his base wouldn't be saying boo.
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You are the one who is obsessed with race. I made it quite clear, if you are here legally, aces, if not GTFO. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT SKIN COLOR. You should join us in the 21st century.
 
Renae said:
What's the good here again? Supporting people that broke the law? Where is that good in anyone's books?
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Children brought here by their parents broke the law?

Only, possibly, under the most technical of interpretations, and even then I'm not so sure.
 
The Mark said:
Laws can be changed, and should be when they're unjust.
All too often we just leave them and don't bother.
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Then write your Congressmen. I can't change them. Congress won't.

Meantime, these dreamers are violating the law.

Bye Bye.
 
jimbo said:
Then write your Congressmen. I can't change them. Congress won't.

Meantime, these dreamers are violating the law.

Bye Bye.
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Which is why Obama created DACA.

Because it is unjust to kick them out, even if it's legally correct.

Congress needs to catch up.
 
The Mark said:
Of course not.

The injustice or justice comes in how that is done.

It's unjust to punish children for the sins of their parents.
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First off, it's the parents fault, blame them. Eh?

Secondly, let's say your dad hands you the keys to a really nice SUV. He then skips town/dies, whatever. You have it about 6 months, it's been a real godsend for the family... the police show up and prove it's a stolen vehicle. Do you think you're gonna be allowed to keep it?
 
The Mark said:
Which is why Obama created DACA.

Because it is unjust to kick them out, even if it's legally correct.

Congress needs to catch up.
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It's very just, they have no one to be mad at but their parents.
 
The Mark said:
Children brought here by their parents broke the law?

Only, possibly, under the most technical of interpretations, and even then I'm not so sure.
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Wah, the parents need to take them back where they brought them from. That's on the parents, not the law. You have it assbackwards hoss.
 
Renae said:
Rahm Emanuel tells students Chicago schools are 'Trump-free zone' - Washington Times

A sitting US Mayor saying his city is proudly supporting illegal activities. **** the worlds gone mad.
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WowRahm thinks he has more authority than our
potus'. This is on Trump to handle as he sees fit but If it were me I think I would target dreamers in Rahms city. I would deport every one of them I was legally able to and challenger Rahm to do something to stop me.

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Renae said:
Question, is it the enforcement of the laws ripping the families "apart" or is it the choices of those parties that broke the law?

You have it ASS BACKWARDS HC, ass backwards. Nothing is stopping these families from moving back as a family to their country of origin.
You are the one who is obsessed with race. I made it quite clear, if you are here legally, aces, if not GTFO. I DO NOT CARE ABOUT SKIN COLOR. You should join us in the 21st century.
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Ya know how many stupid laws are on the books? In many counties in the south it's legal to beat your wife on Sunday. You have to pick your battles. And I say your battle is unjust, dangerous for the family structure and downright mean, You think it's realistic to shove off a 20-year-old kid who's probably never been to Mexico might not even speak the language. Everything is black-and-white.
 
The Mark said:
Which is why Obama created DACA.

Because it is unjust to kick them out, even if it's legally correct.

Congress needs to catch up.
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Then write your Congressmen.

I don't happen to agree that laws we don't like we should ignore. That's especially true of those sworn to uphold the law.
 
Renae said:
First off, it's the parents fault, blame them. Eh?

Secondly, let's say your dad hands you the keys to a really nice SUV. He then skips town/dies, whatever. You have it about 6 months, it's been a real godsend for the family... the police show up and prove it's a stolen vehicle. Do you think you're gonna be allowed to keep it?
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Your comparison is silly.
Obviously if anyone takes the blame in the situation of 'Dreamers', it would be their parents.

Regarding the vehicle, of course you won't get to keep it,

But that is obviously not even close to the same thing as being kicked out of your home country simply because your parent or parents arrived in it illegally, with you along as a child.
 
Chomsky said:
Not that I feel the need to argue the point strongly, but if it gets bumped back to Trump how is it "on" Congress?

DACA has as yet to be Constitutionally struck down, so Trump would have to live with it or repeal it through EO. Congress can simply do nothing, if it so chooses.

Also, I really don't see the Dems participating in ending DACA any more than I saw them participate in ending the ACA. What would be their motivation?
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Perhaps they would be motivated by their convictions. Which hopefully isn't that they use these young illegals for political props.
 
Renae said:
Wah, the parents need to take them back where they brought them from. That's on the parents, not the law. You have it assbackwards hoss.
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And I think you do.
 
Renae said:
It's very just, they have no one to be mad at but their parents.
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Classic and stereotypical so-con, no compassion, empathy or understanding for anyone. And a severe inability to see the forest through the trees. Anyways, You do realize the Trump is just tossing you a snack because he thought we're hungry, right?
 
jimbo said:
Then write your Congressmen.

I don't happen to agree that laws we don't like we should ignore. That's especially true of those sworn to uphold the law.
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I'm fairly sure that issuing an executive order is vastly different from ignoring a law.

In fact you could easily argue that it acknowledged the law, and made an exception to it, because an injustice needed to be prevented while congress deliberated.

I'm actually curious why it hasn't been legislated into law yet, it seems an obvious thing to do.
 
HenryChinaski said:
Classic and stereotypical so-con, no compassion, empathy or understanding for anyone. And a severe inability to see the forest through the trees. Anyways, You do realize the Trump is just tossing you a snack because he thought we're hungry, right?
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I have compassion. For those here legally. What about all they did to be here? THEY matter.
 
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