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Attorney General Jeff Sessions says DACA immigration policy is being rescinded.

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chuckiechan said:
It's congress's job to write the laws. I don't understand how anyone thinks we can run a constitutional government on EO's.
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Yet you are a Trump supporter, and the hypocrisy does not even bother you.
 
ecofarm said:
So it was changed, now there are no entry requirements and no 6 year conditional status requirements and everyone is being given citizenship?
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It's unconstitutional.
 
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Top Cat said:
Sessions: DACA is 'unconstitutional'



This is going to get ugly.

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DACA was nothing more than an executive order from President Obama telling or giving INS guidelines and other federal agencies on how to enforce existing laws. I tend to agree with Sessions that the EO was unconstitutional in that it changed existing law. But President Obama argued that his EO which became known as DACA, DACA wasn't legislation, it was nothing more than an EO, that he, President Obama was within his right as the Executive Branch has the power to enforce the laws passed by congress. That his EO was nothing more than guidelines in that enforcement of existing law.

Others argued that President Obama's EO changed the law, not just enforcement of the law. Perhaps it boiled down to the question, does the executive branch have the authority to exempt a certain segment/s of society from existing law? That is what DACA, the EO did. As an Executive Orders, any new president can change, amend, repeal, rescind or continue with it. President Trump decided not to, well withing his constitutional authority.

The bottom line is if Presidential Obama went the constitutional route without bypassing congress via EO, it would take congressional action to repeal or rescind it. Since President Obama didn't go the constitutional route, any president can do with any EO from a former president as the present president wants.

what people need to know is what Trump is doing is rescinding an executive order, not existing law or legislation. Had Obama gone the constitutional route via legislation from Congress, Trump couldn't have touched it without congressional action. Taking short cuts, by passing congress and the route deemed in the constitution, has enable Trump to do as his wishes.
 
VanceMack said:
How can the president amend "Immigration policy"? How can the AG amend "Immigration policy"

Answer to both is, they cant. The president CAN however implement EOs on how Immigration law is enforced.
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And remove EOs.
 
Blue_State said:
And remove EOs.
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Thats the nature of the beast. An EO is only effective until the next guy comes along.

People can be upset with Trump all they want but like the Paris Climate Accord, if this stuff actually meant something to the people pushing it they would have worked and achieved a legislative solution. Hell...its not even that hard to figure out. Call me...we can do lunch.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Why didn't he wait until we were all distracted by the Cat 5 hurricane that will hit Florida?
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Well, yeah that's right, we WERE used to the socialistic/communistic/democratic one big azzed mistake America cabal releasing outrageous press releases after 5:00 PM on Friday, weren't we?
 
ecofarm said:
Oh, please. Do you think Obama didn't have any attorneys and he spent his life in real estate? I'm pretty sure there's an argument for the EO being Constitutional. It may turn out not to be, like some of Trump's, but I lean toward executive power in any case.

The details of priorities and methods for the enforcement of policy is the realm of the executive branch.
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Wait...are you REALLY suggesting that BOs EOs are actually 'law'? Are you REALLY advocating for the president of the US to have the power to impose law with legal backing?

Really???
 
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Top Cat said:
Sessions: DACA is 'unconstitutional'



This is going to get ugly.

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Coming from a man who lied under oath to congress. Unbelievable
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeff-s...h-russian-envoy-during-presidential-campaign/

Then lied again about his discussions with the Russian ambassador.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...tml?outputType=comment&utm_term=.2432e95a53e2

Sessions wouldn't know anything about the Constitution if it came up and bit him in the ass. He was turned down during the Bush 1 administration for a Federal District Court Judge, and now unbelievably he is Attorney General of the United States.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...accusations-of-racism/?utm_term=.50ce0b4cf493

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This is going to get very ugly. Another Trump manuver that is going to destroy the Republican party in short order. 19% of the U.S. voting block are U.S. voting Latinos. You can color Ted Cruz GONE for 2018--as Texas has a 40% population of legal voting Hispanics.

The HATE coming out of this party is astounding. It's no longer the party of Lincoln or Reagan. It's now the party of Trump. Stuffed full of ignorance, anger, hate, bigotry, & misogyny. They're nothing but a bunch of freaking Nazi's and Facists. Time to get out!

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apdst said:
Is she an illegal alien?
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I can play this as well as you do.:roll:Was Alonso Guillen illegal alien, who died while he was rescuing survivors of the flooding caused by Harvey?
 
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Oreo said:
Coming from a man who lied under oath to congress. Unbelievable
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeff-s...h-russian-envoy-during-presidential-campaign/

Then lied again about his discussions with the Russian ambassador.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...tml?outputType=comment&utm_term=.2432e95a53e2

Sessions wouldn't know anything about the Constitution if it came up and bit him in the ass. He was turned down during the Bush 1 administration for a Federal District Court Judge, and now unbelievably he is Attorney General of the United States.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...accusations-of-racism/?utm_term=.50ce0b4cf493

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This is going to get very ugly. Another Trump manuver that is going to destroy the Republican party in short order.
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Pure nonsense

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Conservative said:
About damn time, this Political Correctness has to stop and the rule of law enforced. Undocumented has to be defined as it truly is ILLEGAL!! What is it about that term that some don't understand?
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HEY OM, howled you fair with Harvey?
 
jmotivator said:
Good. I have nothing against the DACA people, but it is something that needs to be handled through legislation, not an EO. Obama had a bad habit of using EOs to circumvent the legislative process, and any EOs meant to circumvent the will of Congress should be ended. I don't hold any hope that Trump will avoid such temptation now that the genie is out of the bottle, but I don't like the Executive office using such power even if it is something I wanted.

I do find it hilarious reading Vincente Fox's defense of DACA on Twitter on the grounds that Trump is "killing the American Dream".... maybe he should be more interested in building the Mexican Dream? And the American Dream isn't supposed to start by breaking the law... unless you are a Kennedy, I guess.
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Mexico had revolutionairies.

They were branded terrorists and squashed.
 
jmotivator said:
Good. I have nothing against the DACA people, but it is something that needs to be handled through legislation, not an EO. Obama had a bad habit of using EOs to circumvent the legislative process, and any EOs meant to circumvent the will of Congress should be ended. I don't hold any hope that Trump will avoid such temptation now that the genie is out of the bottle, but I don't like the Executive office using such power even if it is something I wanted.

I do find it hilarious reading Vincente Fox's defense of DACA on Twitter on the grounds that Trump is "killing the American Dream".... maybe he should be more interested in building the Mexican Dream? And the American Dream isn't supposed to start by breaking the law... unless you are a Kennedy, I guess.
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Come now.

America's founding was completely illegal.
 
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Bucky said:
This will allow people to go back where they came from.
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You first.

(Unless you're native American. In which case I apologize.)
 
MrShangles said:
Murder, what are you blabbering about now, who did President murder.
So these kids should benefit from there parents illegal activities, couldn't the have got in line to be a citizen by now, who's fault is that


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Work on your reading comprehension. Notice the word EXCEPT?

How would you like to be deported to a country you don't' know with no job or place to live? Keep in mind you had nothing to do with the fact you ended up where you were.
 
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Top Cat said:
Sessions: DACA is 'unconstitutional'



This is going to get ugly.

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He's absolutely right, DACA is illegal and why would it get ugly ?

Did Obama perpetuate Bush's agenda ? So why do you libs expect Trump to perpetuate Obama'a and the Democratic parties agenda ? Or the losers agenda ?
 
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chuckiechan said:
It's congress's job to write the laws. I don't understand how anyone thinks we can run a constitutional government on EO's.
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Didn't you get the memo? It's was absolutely horrible when Obama did it but now it's the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel.
 
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