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Jobs report misses, unemployment rate climbs

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[url="http://www.businessinsider.com/us-jobs-report-nonfarm-payrolls-august-2017-9]Jobs report misses, unemployment rate climbs[/url]


September 2, 2017

Job creation in the US slowed in August after a stronger start to the summer, and the unemployment rate ticked up from a 16-year low. A report Friday from the Bureau of Labor Statistics showed that the US economy added 156,000 jobs in August, fewer than economists had expected. The unemployment rate rose to 4.4% from 4.3%. Economists had forecast that the pace of job creation slowed to a net total of 180,000 nonfarm payrolls, according to Bloomberg. The BLS also subtracted 41,000 jobs from its initial estimate of the prior two months. It noted that Hurricane Harvey had "no discernible effect" on the August jobs numbers because it conducted the survey for its report before the storm. The hurricane's impact is likely to show up in a few weeks in initial filings for unemployment claims.

Manufacturing stuck out as a strong sector last month, adding 36,000 payrolls. Retail hiring increased for a second straight month — but only by 800 jobs amid mass store closings. Wage growth was expected to pick up slightly but remains sluggish. That's partly because baby boomers are retiring and being replaced by young workers with low-paying jobs. Average hourly earnings rose 0.1% month-on-month, softer than expected, and 2.5% year-on-year, both weaker than expected. The lack of wage growth is puzzling since the unemployment rate is so low, and it may give the Federal Reserve some hesitation in raising interest rates. The Fed meets later this month to decide whether to raise borrowing costs, though economists don't expect it to hike.

Difficult to gauge if this is a temporary blip or the beginning of a slowdown trend.
 
Probably a blip.
 
[url="http://www.businessinsider.com/us-jobs-report-nonfarm-payrolls-august-2017-9]Jobs report misses, unemployment rate climbs[/url]




Difficult to gauge if this is a temporary blip or the beginning of a slowdown trend.

The unemployment rate is rather high considering the level of interest rates and the sizes of the budget deficit and public debt. It should make us very nervous.
 
[url="http://www.businessinsider.com/us-jobs-report-nonfarm-payrolls-august-2017-9]Jobs report misses, unemployment rate climbs[/url]




Difficult to gauge if this is a temporary blip or the beginning of a slowdown trend.

The closer the economy gets to Full Employment the more difficult it will be to find workers in fewer jobs can be added each month.
 
that doesn't look like a bad report. if anyone tells you that we can add 200k+ jobs a month forever, turn around and walk the other way. most likely unemployment is up due to people trying to enter the workforce again. either way, we've been going in the right direction with these numbers for a long time now, which means that we have to be even more careful not to screw it up.
 
The unemployment rate is rather high considering the level of interest rates and the sizes of the budget deficit and public debt. It should make us very nervous.

I want to agree with you, only because i share similar sentiment, but what you're stating isn't entirely accurate.

The size of the budget deficit is actually right at the historic average, and not far above the pre-2008 historic average. It's been this way since Q2 2013. Nothing in this report makes me necessarily nervous, but other economic and financial indicators do stand out to me; mainly the way the U.S. dollar is where it was when the Fed began raising interest rates (100 basis points now). But most troubling of all is the fact that real wage growth has been subdued for quite some time.

So i end with a question: how does anyone expect employment growth to boom when inflation, despite extremely low (albeit off the zero bound) interest rates and persistent budget deficits, continues to remain anchored below 2%?
 
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