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GOP Leaders Don’t Expect White House Tax-Plan Details

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From today's Bloomberg article

Republican congressional leaders don’t expect to release a joint tax plan with the White House next month, and they’ll rely instead on House and Senate tax-writing committees to solve the big tax questions that remain unanswered, according to two people familiar with the matter.

The so-called Big Six -- made up of White House officials and congressional leaders involved in tax negotiations -- jointly released a two-page statement in July that outlined a broad set of agreed-upon tax principles. Specifics, including such basic matters as where to set the corporate tax rate and how to set up individual tax brackets, have yet to emerge.
Trump’s administration has sent mixed signals about how many details to expect as Congress returns from its monthlong recess next month. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said during a July interview on ABC that the objective was to have “a full-blown release of the plan” in the beginning of September. Then, a White House official said earlier this month that September would see the release of a new tax document that would provide at least some additional detail.

White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders on Thursday provided no new specifics on how Trump plans to push for tax legislation, but said “tax relief for middle-class Americans is a huge priority for this administration.” She told reporters during a briefing to expect movement on tax reform “in very short order” and perhaps as soon as next week.

Congressional leaders now view the Big Six’s broad July statement as having built the four walls of the house and believe it’s the job of congressional tax writers to furnish it, according to one of the people, who asked not to be named because the discussions are private.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...id-not-to-expect-white-house-tax-plan-details
 
You expect a good plan out of the buffoon in the Whitehouse?

Has he shown any precedence for a plan -- let alone a good plan?
 
It will apply to (cover?) everybody and cost less - just like TrumpCare. ;)
 
The Dems will be cast the votes putting the tax plan over the top, which means they hold almost all of the trump cards.

Donald Dork will sign anything put in front of him, claiming whatever the legislation may be was in fact his idea.
 
You expect a good plan out of the buffoon in the Whitehouse?

Has he shown any precedence for a plan -- let alone a good plan?

I expect it to come out of his budget director.
 
You expect a good plan out of the buffoon in the Whitehouse?

Has he shown any precedence for a plan -- let alone a good plan?

At least they're trying to come up with a plan for tax relief unlike our previous buffoon and his party's possy.
 
At least they're trying to come up with a plan for tax relief unlike our previous buffoon and his party's possy.

The U.S. is a relatively low tax nation. I simply do not agree with your partisan nonsense.
 
You expect a good plan out of the buffoon in the Whitehouse?

Has he shown any precedence for a plan -- let alone a good plan?

The GOP House and Senate will come up with the plan, not the WH, and Trump can either sign it or send it back.

Liberal Tax and spend policies have failed miserably in States like California and Illinois and NY.
Chasing off their Middle Class and Bussinesses and driving up their debt to epic and unsustainable proportions

Lets hope the GOP Congress sticks to Supply side principles that will incentivize new investment in our Nations economy.
 
The U.S. is a relatively low tax nation. I simply do not agree with your partisan nonsense.

Major Corporations including tech corporations that hypocrirically claim to represent and support the Progressive agenda have been offshoring their profits for the last 8 years

Apple is the worst offender sending its massive profit margins to subsidiaries set up in Ireland

Thats a pretty big contradiction to your claims that we're a low tax Nation
 
What is the realitive line?

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Major Corporations including tech corporations that hypocrirically claim to represent and support the Progressive agenda have been offshoring their profits for the last 8 years

Beggar-thy-neighbor tax policy combined with tax - adverse profit maximizing entities (in an era of capital mobility) will lead to such a reality.

Thats a pretty big contradiction to your claims that we're a low tax Nation

The data speaks for itself. That being said, corporate tax reform is a worthy cause.
 
Negotiating in public is never a very good idea. But let's hope they do come up with a good plan the economy needs it.

What the hell?

Negotiating public policy so that the public knows what their public officials are up to is a bad idea to you?
 
What the hell?

Negotiating public policy so that the public knows what their public officials are up to is a bad idea to you?

This internal negotiation is never good in public as it turns into grandstanding and political posturing. This is all prelimary stuff for the public hearings and committee hearings.
 

First GDP has nothing to do with it. If the GDP increases 10% next year does tbat mean government requires 10% more revenues? Government doesn't have a claim to a certain percentage of GDP and the goal shiuld be to grow the economy faster than we grow government so we can keep lowering tax rates. Why do you think the government taking more of the GDP is a good thing?

Besides I'm talking individual tax rates.
 
This internal negotiation is never good in public as it turns into grandstanding and political posturing. This is all prelimary stuff for the public hearings and committee hearings.

Trumpco tried secret negotiations for Trumpcare and came up with a massive pile of dog**** they tried to cram down our throats before we could see it. This is what you want.
 
Trumpco tried secret negotiations for Trumpcare and came up with a massive pile of dog**** they tried to cram down our throats before we could see it. This is what you want.

Nope and this will work better if you read what I want and discuss that instead of you telling me what I want and then you discussing that.
 
Nope and this will work better if you read what I want and discuss that instead of you telling me what I want and then you discussing that.

You don't like public negotiations. Secret negotiations turned it bad, and you want secret negotiations.
 
You don't like public negotiations. Secret negotiations turned it bad, and you want secret negotiations.

I'm all for public committee hearings once it gets to that point. But side needs to come up with a plan first. You don't realize the negotiations that go own between staff before a bill even gets there?
 
First GDP has nothing to do with it.

Actually, it has a great deal to do with it.

If the GDP increases 10% next year does tbat mean government requires 10% more revenues?

If GDP increases 10% next year, revenues will increase... likely in the neighborhood of 10%.

Government doesn't have a claim to a certain percentage of GDP and the goal shiuld be to grow the economy faster than we grow government so we can keep lowering tax rates.

We have already established that taxation in the U.S. is relatively low. Normative statements lacking a coherent argument simply won't cut it.

Why do you think the government taking more of the GDP is a good thing?

Quote where i stated this?

Besides I'm talking individual tax rates.

No you weren't. I responded to this statement:

What is the realitive line?

No mention of individual tax rates. Furthermore, are you really sure you want to attempt to move the goalposts with the individual tax rate argument? :lol:
 
You expect a good plan out of the buffoon in the Whitehouse?

Has he shown any precedence for a plan -- let alone a good plan?

In matters of taxation, the buffoon in the White House only defines what he is trying to accomplish and some broad strokes of how to get there. That's what an executive does.

The buffoons in the Congress are the ones that craft the legislation and vote on it.

Article 1, Section 7.

Constitution for the United States of America
 
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