Secret Service depletes funds to pay agents because of Trump's frequent travel

From USAToday.com:

The Secret Service can no longer pay hundreds of agents it needs to carry out an expanded protective mission – in large part due to the sheer size of President Trump's family and efforts necessary to secure their multiple residences up and down the East Coast.

Secret Service Director Randolph "Tex" Alles, in an interview with USA TODAY, said more than 1,000 agents have already hit the federally mandated caps for salary and overtime allowances that were meant to last the entire year.

The agency has faced a crushing workload since the height of the contentious election season, and it has not relented in the first seven months of the administration. Agents must protect Trump – who has traveled almost every weekend to his properties in Florida, New Jersey and Virginia – and his adult children whose business trips and vacations have taken them across the country and overseas.

"The president has a large family, and our responsibility is required in law,'' Alles said. "I can't change that. I have no flexibility.

Under Trump, 42 people have protection, a number that includes 18 members of his family. That's up from 31 during the Obama administration.

Overwork and constant travel have also been driving a recent exodus from the Secret Service ranks, yet without congressional intervention to provide additional funding, Alles will not even be able to pay agents for the work they have already done.''

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Seven months in and he's already blown the Secret Service's budget for the year...:shock: I've never known that to happen before.

EDIT: The linked USAToday article links to an article the news outlet posted in October 2016 reporting on this same funding shortfall for the Secret Service only then the main problem was providing protection for the 2016 election cycle on top of providing White House security. Although the agency was in the process of hiring an additional 1,000 new agents, the apparent increase in personal hasn't seemed to fix the problem as there seems to be an even greater demand on man-hours.

Objective Voice said:

From USAToday.com:



Seven months in and he's already blown the Secret Service's budget for the year...:shock: I've never known that to happen before.

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Good, then they Go Home Early for Christmas

Objective Voice said:

From USAToday.com:



Seven months in and he's already blown the Secret Service's budget for the year...:shock: I've never known that to happen before.

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If I recall the Secret Service expense is part of the budget of the United States and Trump is spending that budget. your outrage over the expenditures ignores actual results which you do a lot of as do most radical leftists as they promote their own agenda in spite of reality. Can you explain who Trump inheriting a debt of 19.9 trillion when he took office now has a debt of 19.8 trillion dollars as of TODAY??

https://treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current

Do you people ever do any research or just simply get spoon fed bad information?

Conservative said:

If I recall the Secret Service expense is part of the budget of the United States and Trump is spending that budget. your outrage over the expenditures ignores actual results which you do a lot of as do most radical leftists as they promote their own agenda in spite of reality. Can you explain who Trump inheriting a debt of 19.9 trillion when he took office now has a debt of 19.8 trillion dollars as of TODAY??

https://treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current

Do you people ever do any research or just simply get spoon fed bad information?

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Spare me, Conservative.

Nowhere was there any anti-Trump outrage in my post. I was simply surprised to read that the Secret Service had run out of funds to secure the President and First Family so early in a non-campaign year. So, you can get off your damn :soap and try addressing the issue placed before you, towit: "Why is the Secret Service out of money already 7-months into the calendar year (or a month short of ending the fiscal year)?"

You'll probably say because Congress failed to appropriate enough funds and you'd probably be right. However, I doubt they foresaw this President taking 16 golf trips this early into his presidency. (And in case you missed it, that was a ding on Pres. Trump.)

I am curious about something, however. You spoke of "results" from expenditures. The only measurement that matters in this case is keeping the POTUS (and the First Family) safe. What other measurement could you possibly use here other than the fact that the man is still alive and unharmed, as well as his family? :shrug: And what does the debt have to do with the Secret Service having to blow through its budget in over-time pay in order to protect the POTUS and the First Family? Take those partisan blinders off so you can understand the issue before you. You do realize there are only three options to fixing this problem, right?

1) An emergency spending bill to fund the Secret Service through the rest of the fiscal year;

2) Secret Service continues to work unpaid until the agency is fully funded for the rest of the fiscal year and FY2018;

3) Secret Service agents get laid off to manage the agency's budgetary short-fall.

There is no option 4.

Objective Voice said:

Spare me, Conservative.

Nowhere was there any anti-Trump outrage in my post. I was simply surprised to read that the Secret Service had run out of funds to secure the President and First Family so early in a non-campaign year. So, you can get off your damn :soap and try addressing the issue placed before you, towit: "Why is the Secret Service out of money already 7-months into the calendar year (or a month short of ending the fiscal year)?"

You'll probably say because Congress failed to appropriate enough funds and you'd probably be right. However, I doubt they foresaw this President taking 16 golf trips this early into his presidency. (And in case you missed it, that was a ding on Pres. Trump.)

I am curious about something, however. You spoke of "results" from expenditures. The only measurement that matters in this case is keeping the POTUS (and the First Family) safe. What other measurement could you possibly use here other than the fact that the man is still alive and unharmed, as well as his family? :shrug: And what does the debt have to do with the Secret Servicing having to blow through its budget in over-time pay in order to protect the POTUS and the First Family? Take those partisan blinders off so you can understand the issue before you.

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Context matters, just like the unified budget matters. You posted an anti Trump Thread again without context and if the debt is down I am sure that the secret service will get the funds they need to protect the President and his family which I am sure is your major concern.

I don't care what the Congress appropriates but rather what is spent as budget means nothing as spending has never been a problem for Congress which is why we have an 19.8 trillion dollar debt

Debt has nothing to do with the protection of the President so why is this even a thread other than to attack Trump?

Conservative said:

Context matters, just like the unified budget matters. You posted an anti Trump Thread again without context and if the debt is down I am sure that the secret service will get the funds they need to protect the President and his family which I am sure is your major concern.

I don't care what the Congress appropriates but rather what is spent as budget means nothing as spending has never been a problem for Congress which is why we have an 19.8 trillion dollar debt

Debt has nothing to do with the protection of the President so why is this even a thread other than to attack Trump?

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You did read the part in my 2nd-post where I said...

I was simply surprised to read that the Secret Service had run out of funds to secure the President and First Family so early in a non-campaign year.

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Right?

You see, not everything is a partisan issue. Somethings are posted out of genuine concern. I may not like the guy, but I don't want him coming to harm. If the Secret Service is having difficulty paying its staff or retaining quality people because they're over-worked and the agency can't pay them, then that's a problem that could lead to a MAJOR problem. So again, get off your partisan :soap and know when people have legitimate concerns. Not everyone brings up an issue drawing partisan lines.

Sidenote: I've posted 13 threads since January 2017; only 3 were directly about Pres.(-elect) Trump.

Objective Voice said:

You did read the part in my 2nd-post where I said...



Right?

You see, not everything is a partisan issue. Somethings are posted out of genuine concern. I may not like the guy, but I don't want him coming to harm. If the Secret Service is having difficulty paying its staff or retaining quality people because they're over-worked and the agency can't pay them, then that's a problem that could lead to a MAJOR problem. So again, get off your partisan :soap and know when people have legitimate concerns. Not everyone brings up an issue drawing partisan lines.

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Why is this even an issue? In our 4 trillion dollar plus budget how much is the budget for Secret Service? would this be an issue with Obama in the WH? Don't give me this bs that this isn't an attempt to make it political because that is exactly what you have done here

Is there some reason that in spite of this thread that you haven't explained why the debt is actually down under Trump?

There's another thread on this.

This is not a budget issue. There are federally mandated caps on salary and overtime for the Secret Service and many on the President's detail have reached those salary/OT limits. The Secret Service has not run out of money - it just can't pay the agents more until Congress lifts the salary cap.

Gaius46 said:

There's another thread on this.

This is not a budget issue. There are federally mandated caps on salary and overtime for the Secret Service and many on the President's detail have reached those salary/OT limits. The Secret Service has not run out of money - it just can't pay the agents more until Congress lifts the salary cap.

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Thank Gaius46........ A completely nothing story but the fake news media wants to blame Trump and his family for this. Just beyond stupid!!

Conservative said:

Why is this even an issue? In our 4 trillion dollar plus budget how much is the budget for Secret Service? would this be an issue with Obama in the WH? Don't give me this bs that this isn't an attempt to make it political because that is exactly what you have done here.

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Point to where I mentioned Trump's name in the OP?

Point to anywhere in the OP were I made the issue about Trump period? You can't because my concern wasn't about him; it was about the agency that protects him. You're the one who turned it into a partisan issue.

Is there some reason that in spite of this thread that you haven't explained why the debt is actually down under Trump?

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Because the debt wasn't the focus of this thread. Once again, you're trying to turn the topic into something it's not.

Gaius46 said:

There's another thread on this.

This is not a budget issue. There are federally mandated caps on salary and overtime for the Secret Service and many on the President's detail have reached those salary/OT limits. The Secret Service has not run out of money - it just can't pay the agents more until Congress lifts the salary cap.

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Thanks for the clarification.

Objective Voice said:

From USAToday.com:



Seven months in and he's already blown the Secret Service's budget for the year...:shock: I've never known that to happen before.

EDIT: The linked USAToday article links to an article the news outlet posted in October 2016 reporting on this same funding shortfall for the Secret Service only then the main problem was providing protection for the 2016 election cycle on top of providing White House security. Although the agency was in the process of hiring an additional 1,000 new agents, the apparent increase in personal hasn't seemed to fix the problem as there seems to be an even greater demand on man-hours.

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He, Trump, has blown the budget? :lol: