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Statue Wars: Houston Man arrested for trying to BLOW UP Confed. Statue

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Andrew Cecil Schneck, 25, has been charged with "attempting to maliciously damage or destroy property receiving federal financial assistance" after a park ranger saw him hiding in the bushes near the General Richard Dowling monument, preparing to detonate an explosive, the authorities said. The statue of Dowling, a Houstonian who served as a Confederate officer during the Civil War, is one of hundreds of monuments to the Confederacy that have come under increased scrutiny after a white supremacist rally in Virginia supporting such memorials became violent.

Houston Man Arrested Over Alleged Plot to Blow Up Confederate Statue | Houston Press
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Apparently simply demanding the statue be removed isn't an option with some people. They have to resort to terrorist acts.
 
Vandalism isn't terrorism. But it is definitely a crime and it is just a matter of time before someone gets hurt attempting these things.
 
Roadvirus said:
Vandalism? This moron wasn't trying to spray-paint the damn thing!
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Vandalism: action involving deliberate destruction of or damage to public or private property.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Vandalism isn't terrorism. But it is definitely a crime and it is just a matter of time before someone gets hurt attempting these things.
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Using a bomb is.
 
Roadvirus said:
Vandalism? This moron wasn't trying to spray-paint the damn thing!
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What he did does fall under the dictionary definition of vandalism, RV. Doesn't make it any less wrong, but still.
 
Crazy. Someone could have been killed.
 
apdst said:
Using a bomb is.
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Using a bomb on people is.

Look, I'm not defending the guy. What he did was criminal and very dangerous. Just not terrorism.
 
TheGoverness said:
What he did does fall under the dictionary definition of vandalism, RV. Doesn't make it any less wrong, but still.
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Fair enough, but it's still ridiculous to simply call it "vandalism" when explosives are involved.
 
Roadvirus said:
Fair enough, but it's still ridiculous to simply call it "vandalism" when explosives are involved.
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I've used tannerite to blow all sorts of **** up, you going to call me a terrorist?
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Using a bomb on people is.

Look, I'm not defending the guy. What he did was criminal and very dangerous. Just not terrorism.
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It's a public area and he was trying to detonate the device during daylight hours. Obviously, he wasn't trying to avoid casualties.

The definition of terrorism doesn't specify human casualties.
 
Deuce said:
I've used tannerite to blow all sorts of **** up, you going to call me a terrorist?
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In public, accepting the possibility of casualties, for political reasons?
 
Roadvirus said:
Fair enough, but it's still ridiculous to simply call it "vandalism" when explosives are involved.
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In the end, arguing over whether it's vandalism or not is semantics. What really matters here is that what he planned to do was dowright horrible, and totally indefensible. Attempting to destroy public property (especially with ****ing explosives) is totally unacceptable.
 
apdst said:
In public, accepting the possibility of casualties, for political reasons?
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I've seen no evidence he intended to harm anyone.
 
TheGoverness said:
There's no "selective outrage" here. What he did was horrible. But it wasn't terrorism.
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Terrorism

the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
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A bomb detonated in public is pretty damned violent. Yes?
 
Deuce said:
I've seen no evidence he intended to harm anyone.
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Right! He wanted to set off an explosive device in a public place in the middle of the day. :lamo
 
apdst said:
Right! He wanted to set off an explosive device in a public place in the middle of the day. :lamo
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Firecrackers are technically explosive devices. Was it that? Or was it C4?

How many people were present, and at what distance?
 
Deuce said:
Firecrackers are technically explosive devices. Was it that? Or was it C4?

How many people were present, and at what distance?
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It's fun watching Liberals employ their double standard.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Using a bomb on people is.

Look, I'm not defending the guy. What he did was criminal and very dangerous. Just not terrorism.
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TheGoverness said:
There's no "selective outrage" here. What he did was horrible. But it wasn't terrorism.
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Detonating, or attempting to detonate, a bomb in a public place, for any reason, is terrorism. Throw a rope around a statue like they did in Durham and pull it to the ground? That's vandalism. Putting an explosive devise on any object in a public location and attempting to or actually blowing it up, is terrorism - period.

Change statue to bridge, or one of those large US mail boxes on a corner, or the fountain in the middle of a park. What would it be then, with a bomb?
 
Roadvirus said:
Apparently simply demanding the statue be removed isn't an option with some people. They have to resort to terrorist acts.
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He should go to jail. I believe that Confederate statues belong in museums, not in public spaces. And some of those Confederate statues were created by famous artists, which gives them historical and cultural value, a good argument for internment in museums. Blow them up? No, we are not the Taliban.
 
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