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Ryan: 'There is no moral relativism when it comes to neo-Nazis'

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Ryan: 'There is no moral relativism when it comes to neo-Nazis'


BY REBECCA SAVRANSKY - 08/21/17

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Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) on Monday said there can be no "moral relativism" when talking about neo-Nazis in his sharpest statement yet on the violence earlier this month in Charlottesville, Va. Ryan's message, delivered as a post on Facebook, did not mention President Trump but was clearly worded as a response to the controversy surrounding the president's remarks on the issue, in which he said both sides were to blame for Charlottesville — white supremacists and those protesting them. As long as hate exists, Ryan said, it needs to be confronted. "We need to call it what it is. And so long as it is weaponized for fear and terror, we need to confront it and defeat it," he said. "That is why we all need to make clear there is no moral relativism when it comes to neo-Nazis. We cannot allow the slightest ambiguity on such a fundamental question." America needs to do better, Ryan said, adding that this moment is a test of "our moral clarity." "The words we use and the attitudes we carry matter. Yes, this has been a disheartening setback in our fight to eliminate hate," he said. "But it is not the end of the story. We can and must do better. We owe it to Heather Heyer, and to all our children."

I applaud the words and sentiment here of Speaker Ryan. "Moral relativism" on such an issue is inexcusable. Nazism, racism, and bigotry must be confronted everywhere and always by all Americans ... especially those in power.
 
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Ryan: 'There is no moral relativism when it comes to neo-Nazis'




I applaud the words and sentiment here of Speaker Ryan. "Moral relativism" on such an issue is inexcusable. Nazism, racism, and bigotry must be confronted everywhere and always by all Americans ... especially those in power.

Ideas must be confronted with better ideas, not suppression, especially not suppression by mob violence or threats of violence.

Ryan as per usual does not seem to understand what is important.
 
Ideas must be confronted with better ideas, not suppression, especially not suppression by violence or threats of violence.

Ryan as per usual does not seem to understand what is important.

See: Boston counter-protests for a great example of this.

Also, link in OP doesn't seem to be working for me.
 
Wow ... just in time Ryan :lamo

The Country has already spoken on this a week ago, but glad to see you're back from another planet
 
See: Boston counter-protests for a great example of this.

Also, link in OP doesn't seem to be working for me.

Fixed :thumbs:
 
Ryan: 'There is no moral relativism when it comes to neo-Nazis'




I applaud the words and sentiment here of Speaker Ryan. "Moral relativism" on such an issue is inexcusable. Nazism, racism, and bigotry must be confronted everywhere and always by all Americans ... especially those in power.

No, their job is to make and enforce laws that secure life and liberty, not to use their power to condemn citizens who have ideas they dont like. Thats how you get things like McCarthyism, the KKK, and racism. Sure, TODAY theyre using their power to condemn racism. But it wasnt so long ago those in power led the citizens in being racist, homophobic, and xenophobic.
 
How are we going to define this.
Are we just talking about these nazis and these communists?
Are we going to define this by the beliefs and actions of all nazis and all communists?

They earned the reputation, they worked hard at it, they even Killed for it.

So why deny it.

Being a Communist is one thing, Hate and Killing is another.

You can actually FEEL the difference.
 
They earned the reputation, they worked hard at it, they even Killed for it.

So why deny it.

Being a Communist is one thing, Hate and Killing is another.

You can actually FEEL the difference.

What did I deny?

Racial fascists and communists are collectivist totalitarians, one kills on purpose and the others kills repeatedly "by accident."
How communism gets a soft pass because "muh racist nazis" is retarded.
 
What did I deny?

Racial fascists and communists are collectivist totalitarians, one kills on purpose and the others kills repeatedly "by accident."
How communism gets a soft pass because "muh racist nazis" is retarded.

And downplaying the racism of the Nazis and their bigoted beliefs downplays the tragedy of that regimes most horrific crime.
 
What did I deny?

Racial fascists and communists are collectivist totalitarians, one kills on purpose and the others kills repeatedly "by accident."
How communism gets a soft pass because "muh racist nazis" is retarded.

One Stands Alone ... if you don't believe me, try standing with them in public and watch how many friends you have,

That will be a sign.
 
Ideas must be confronted with better ideas, not suppression, especially not suppression by mob violence or threats of violence. Ryan as per usual does not seem to understand what is important.
You are using Ryan to pour out your angst. You are the one does not understand.
 
The Speaker of the House is a caricature. How many apologies/explanations has he made for the Trump camp?
 
What did I deny?

Racial fascists and communists are collectivist totalitarians, one kills on purpose and the others kills repeatedly "by accident."
How communism gets a soft pass because "muh racist nazis" is retarded.
Because the commies were not out in overwhelming force but the Nazis were? Was that it, Harry?
 
And downplaying the racism of the Nazis and their bigoted beliefs downplays the tragedy of that regimes most horrific crime.

No it doesn't.
We all well understand racism is bad, repetitiously virtue signaling how not racist you are is stupid.
Once a person or group surpasses the totalitarian threshold, the dick measuring on who is worse is irrelevant.
They cause immeasurable amounts of death and repression.
 
Ryan is wrong.
Both of those groups believe in a type of totalitarianism.
At that point, it doesn't matter if one is also racist.

Let me know when 500 armed Communists carrying Sickle and Hammer flags are leading a torchlight parade through some American town.
 
One Stands Alone ... if you don't believe me, try standing with them in public and watch how many friends you have,

That will be a sign.

You judge how right or wrong something is, based on popularity?
That's incredibly dumb.

You should judge something based on the merits of that thing.
 
This need and demand to make one group super super bad is just ****ing pathetic. Neo nazi/white supremacists are ****. Antifa is ****. There is no moral relativism to be found in that.

Romney tried his hand at this too. Romney. Mitt Romney. You know...THAT racist nazi Mitt Romney. If ANYONE should be able to see and understand the ploy the leftist media has been practicing it should be a white bread mother****er that PASSED socialized medicine in his state that was STILL labelled a racist.
 
Let me know when 500 armed Communists carrying Sickle and Hammer flags are leading a torchlight parade through some American town.

You can just watch the counter protests, there are both communist flags and anarcho communist flags, for you to see.
This has been fairly repetitive with counter protests to non nazis as well.
 
You judge how right or wrong something is, based on popularity?
That's incredibly dumb.

You should judge something based on the merits of that thing.

Go ahead, tell me the upside of The Klan and how it's benefited your life and contributed to American History.

Then do the same for the other side ...

Please, take all the time you need.
 
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