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CBS poll: Most Americans disapprove of Trump's Charlottesville response

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CBS poll: Most Americans disapprove of Trump's Charlottesville response

By Zachary Cohen
Thu August 17, 2017

A majority of Americans say they disapprove of President Donald Trump's handling of the situation in Charlottesville, Virginia, and believe his policies have done more to encourage racial division than racial unity, according to a new poll released Thursday. A CBS News survey found the majority of Americans polled (55%) said they disapproved of the President's response to the deadly violence that occurred at a white supremacist rally over the weekend, while most Republicans approved (67%). Just 10% of Democrats said they approved. Independents and Democrats, and the country overall, said they felt the President's description of blame in the events is inaccurate; Republicans said they felt it is accurate. Overall, the poll noted that Americans are more apt to say Trump's policies have encouraged racial division (44%) rather than racial unity (12%). Thirty-nine percent said his policies have had not much effect on the matter. Nearly two-thirds of Americans said they considered the attack that led to a death in Charlottesville an act of "domestic terrorism," a view that spanned partisan lines.

In additional polling data released Thursday, the CBS poll found that most Americans (59%) said the US should not threaten North Korea with military action right now but most would approve of military action if diplomacy does not eventually stop its nuclear program. Polling numbers indicated that the public remains uneasy about Trump's ability to handle the North Korea situation -- 59% said they are uneasy about his ability to do so, while 38% said they have confidence.
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A majority of Americans disapprove of Trumps response to Charlottesville, feel his description of events there is inaccurate, feel his policies have encouraged racial division, consider the death of a Charlottesville woman domestic terrorism, and are uneasy about Trumps ability to handle the volatile NK situation. Yesterday Trump ordered his two prized business councils disbanded to staunch the embarrassing flood of CEO resignations.


Related: Trump Approval Rating Dips to Lowest Point of Presidency

Poll: 40 Percent Now Support Trump Impeachment Note: This Poll was conducted before the Charlottesville debacle
 
Rogue Valley said:
CBS poll: Most Americans disapprove of Trump's Charlottesville response



A majority of Americans disapprove of Trumps response to Charlottesville, feel his description of events there is inaccurate, feel his policies have encouraged racial division, consider the death of a Charlottesville woman domestic terrorism, and are uneasy about Trumps ability to handle the volatile NK situation. Yesterday Trump ordered his two prized business councils disbanded to staunch the embarrassing flood of CEO resignations.


Related: Trump Approval Rating Dips to Lowest Point of Presidency

Poll: 40 Percent Now Support Trump Impeachment Note: This Poll was conducted before the Charlottesville debacle
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But most Repiblicans approve, one more illustration of abject submission.
 
Rogue Valley said:
CBS poll: Most Americans disapprove of Trump's Charlottesville response



A majority of Americans disapprove of Trumps response to Charlottesville, feel his description of events there is inaccurate, feel his policies have encouraged racial division, consider the death of a Charlottesville woman domestic terrorism, and are uneasy about Trumps ability to handle the volatile NK situation. Yesterday Trump ordered his two prized business councils disbanded to staunch the embarrassing flood of CEO resignations.


Related: Trump Approval Rating Dips to Lowest Point of Presidency

Poll: 40 Percent Now Support Trump Impeachment Note: This Poll was conducted before the Charlottesville debacle
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Not surprising, when the media have been telling the people that Trump's speeches were racist. After all, lots of people are not interested enough to listen to the videos. So they believe the false information. That is not a good sign for the country. Disquieting, really.
 
Rogue Valley said:
CBS poll: Most Americans disapprove of Trump's Charlottesville response



A majority of Americans disapprove of Trumps response to Charlottesville, feel his description of events there is inaccurate, feel his policies have encouraged racial division, consider the death of a Charlottesville woman domestic terrorism, and are uneasy about Trumps ability to handle the volatile NK situation. Yesterday Trump ordered his two prized business councils disbanded to staunch the embarrassing flood of CEO resignations.


Related: Trump Approval Rating Dips to Lowest Point of Presidency

Poll: 40 Percent Now Support Trump Impeachment Note: This Poll was conducted before the Charlottesville debacle
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Honestly, i find these numbers rather depressing. I find it hard to believe that a meager 55% of us are willing to condemn the idea that a mob of Neo-Nazis has some "very fine" people in it.

It is clear that far too many Americans lack the integrity to condemn Neo-Nazi supporters.
 
Absentglare said:
Honestly, i find these numbers rather depressing. I find it hard to believe that a meager 55% of us are willing to condemn the idea that a mob of Neo-Nazis has some "very fine" people in it.

It is clear that far too many Americans lack the integrity to condemn Neo-Nazi supporters.
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Are you in agreement that, one could also say that "far too many Americans lack the integrity to condemn" Antif supporters? Are you saying the anti demonstration crowd only had "very fine people" in it.
 
mike2810 said:
Are you in agreement that, one could also say that "far too many Americans lack the integrity to condemn" Antif supporters? Are you saying the anti demonstration crowd only had "very fine people" in it.
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Antifa and BLM are the Left's Brownshirts.
 
mike2810 said:
Are you in agreement that, one could also say that "far too many Americans lack the integrity to condemn" Antif supporters? Are you saying the anti demonstration crowd only had "very fine people" in it.
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Ideologically, i don't see a problem with counter-protesting groups like Neo-Nazis and the KKK. What i do condemn is the violence, and i'll acknowledge that the left can do better about condemning the violence. What i won't accept is the idea that you seem to be suggesting, that counter-protesting groups like Neo-Nazis and the KKK is inherently wrong.
 
Rogue Valley said:
CBS poll: Most Americans disapprove of Trump's Charlottesville response



A majority of Americans disapprove of Trumps response to Charlottesville, feel his description of events there is inaccurate, feel his policies have encouraged racial division, consider the death of a Charlottesville woman domestic terrorism, and are uneasy about Trumps ability to handle the volatile NK situation. Yesterday Trump ordered his two prized business councils disbanded to staunch the embarrassing flood of CEO resignations.


Related: Trump Approval Rating Dips to Lowest Point of Presidency

Poll: 40 Percent Now Support Trump Impeachment Note: This Poll was conducted before the Charlottesville debacle
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When all the media (other than FOX) does is trash Trump no wonder so many people in the USA are anti-Trump zealots.

They went from being force fed Obama is God to Trump is Hitler... it must cause near mental break downs in these poor creatures.
 
Absentglare said:
Honestly, i find these numbers rather depressing. I find it hard to believe that a meager 55% of us are willing to condemn the idea that a mob of Neo-Nazis has some "very fine" people in it.

It is clear that far too many Americans lack the integrity to condemn Neo-Nazi supporters.
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Please point to the QUOTE where Trump says that a mob of Neo-Nazi's has some very fine people in it please?

See? This is the **** that I am talking about... :lol: Crazy...
 
apdst said:
Antifa and BLM are the Left's Brownshirts.
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Which sure sounds a lot like you saying that Nazis are the Right's Brownshirts.

If you say so.
 
Absentglare said:
Honestly, i find these numbers rather depressing. I find it hard to believe that a meager 55% of us are willing to condemn the idea that a mob of Neo-Nazis has some "very fine" people in it.

It is clear that far too many Americans lack the integrity to condemn Neo-Nazi supporters.
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I don't think that's fair. Not everybody is as interested in politics/current events as we are. I had lunch with two older ladies today, and both at different points in the conversation said that they don't pay attention to the news anymore. They can't; it's too distressing. I wonder how many Americans have tuned out?

Speaking only for myself, I don't feel an obligation to make a statement condemning anybody. What's heinous is generally a "duh" for decent people. But what would you have people do? Give some FB page a "like"? Sign a petition?
 
A majority of Americans may disapprove of Trump's handling of Charlottesville, but a majority of Republicans, 68%, approve of it.

Sorry folks, we're not at the part of the movie where the hyenas turn on Scar.
 
joG said:
Not surprising, when the media have been telling the people that Trump's speeches were racist. After all, lots of people are not interested enough to listen to the videos. So they believe the false information. That is not a good sign for the country. Disquieting, really.
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Yes, clearly people are way to stupid to make up their own minds. They can't be trusted to actually watch the president speak and disagree.

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Are you in agreement that, one could also say that "far too many Americans lack the integrity to condemn" Antif supporters? Are you saying the anti demonstration crowd only had "very fine people" in it.
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apdst said:
Antifa and BLM are the Left's Brownshirts.
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Please show me the pictures of anitfa atrocities - and describe the war we had with them.

Do you realize how insane it sounds to defend the nazis - and then say that antifa is horrible like the nazis? The fact is that the nazis were evil back when we fought a war against them, and those who worship them and what they stand for are still evil.
 
Another BS poll by a Mainstream Media company.

First they give sampling data that is unweighted.

Dem - 29%
Rep - 23 %
Ind - 47%

Gallup's latest Party Affiliation numbers:

Dem - 28%
Rep - 28%
Ind - 41%

Party Affiliation | Gallup Historical Trends

So...that right there indicates a bogus poll. But it gets worse. CBS then "weights" their sample...based on, well, something or other...to get the following which they used to come up with their results.

Dem - 31%
Rep - 23%
Ind - 44%

Nobody should believe this crap.

POLL REJECTED!
 
nota bene said:
Speaking only for myself, I don't feel an obligation to make a statement condemning anybody. What's heinous is generally a "duh" for decent people. But what would you have people do? Give some FB page a "like"? Sign a petition?
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Nota, be honest. Do you really think it's appropriate to be comparing a random citizens Facebook "like" fatigue, with the obligation of the Preisent of the United States to provide moral leadership on divisive national tragedies?

The contortions I see Trump defenders doing is appalling. Trump sits around watching the news and tweeting at all hours about nonsense...with false accusations...etc., but during a touchstone moment for the nation in response to a domestic terrorist white nationalist attack and death? And he specifically AVOIDS decrying them specifically without qualification?
There is no excuse and you know it.
 
Mach said:
Nota, be honest. Do you really think it's appropriate to be comparing a random citizens Facebook "like" fatigue, with the obligation of the Preisent of the United States to provide moral leadership on divisive national tragedies?

The contortions I see Trump defenders doing is appalling. Trump sits around watching the news and tweeting at all hours about nonsense...with false accusations...etc., but during a touchstone moment for the nation in response to a domestic terrorist white nationalist attack and death? And he specifically AVOIDS decrying them specifically without qualification?
There is no excuse and you know it.
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You can't tell me what I know...particularly since you didn't even read and understand what I posted to Absentglare, which was a response to his "It is clear that far too many Americans lack the integrity to condemn Neo-Nazi supporters."
 
joG said:
Not surprising, when the media have been telling the people that Trump's speeches were racist. After all, lots of people are not interested enough to listen to the videos. So they believe the false information. That is not a good sign for the country. Disquieting, really.
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POTUS's words and tweets speak for themselves. He was pretty damn clear.
 
nota bene said:
You can't tell me what I know...particularly since you didn't even read and understand what I posted to Absentglare, which was a response to his "It is clear that far too many Americans lack the integrity to condemn Neo-Nazi supporters."
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You can clear it right up though. Do you believe Trumps responses were good enough? That is the catalyst and the OP after all...
 
nota bene said:
I don't think that's fair. Not everybody is as interested in politics/current events as we are. I had lunch with two older ladies today, and both at different points in the conversation said that they don't pay attention to the news anymore. They can't; it's too distressing. I wonder how many Americans have tuned out?

Speaking only for myself, I don't feel an obligation to make a statement condemning anybody. What's heinous is generally a "duh" for decent people. But what would you have people do? Give some FB page a "like"? Sign a petition?
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With respect, I think you're wrong. Societal change happens slowly, through the power of general opinion. Sure, we can pass laws that prevent aspects of racism, but no matter how many laws we implement, we still have racists. But when enough people over time make racism completely unacceptable holistically across societal expectations, to the point that those who would be instinctively looked down upon, things change. Case in point, we no longer burn witches at the stake or go to stadiums to watch men kill one another for sport. At some point enough people made it clear that these societal norms were no longer acceptable, because the majority of society believed it to be so.

Making a statement against these Nazi dicks, added to all the other folks making a statement against these Nazi dicks, added to the overall dialogue about racism and equality, is slowly changing the societal view on racism. Why do you think these hold outs are so active and losing their **** lately? I don't think you give yourself enough credit for being able to drive change, if you want to.
 
Mach said:
You can clear it right up though. Do you believe Trumps responses were good enough? That is the catalyst and the OP after all...
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I don't think anything Trump says or does will ever be "good enough."
 
OlNate said:
With respect, I think you're wrong. Societal change happens slowly, through the power of general opinion. Sure, we can pass laws that prevent aspects of racism, but no matter how many laws we implement, we still have racists. But when enough people over time make racism completely unacceptable holistically across societal expectations, to the point that those who would be instinctively looked down upon, things change. Case in point, we no longer burn witches at the stake or go to stadiums to watch men kill one another for sport. At some point enough people made it clear that these societal norms were no longer acceptable, because the majority of society believed it to be so.

Making a statement against these Nazi dicks, added to all the other folks making a statement against these Nazi dicks, added to the overall dialogue about racism and equality, is slowly changing the societal view on racism. Why do you think these hold outs are so active and losing their **** lately? I don't think you give yourself enough credit for being able to drive change, if you want to.
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I have fairly significant in-the-field experience in "making a difference." I don't see the need to "take a stand" against what the entire civilized world has taken a stand against since before I was born. As I've said, I think this is a huge "duh."

These cretinous white supremacists/neo-Nazis and their "Antifa" counterparts are equally contemptible. I suppose the fringe lunatics too will always be with us. The violence has to end; this has an impact on us all. Other than that, let them all have their parades and protests. And ignore them.
 
nota bene said:
I don't think anything Trump says or does will ever be "good enough."
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When a reporter asked if he would visit Charlottesville, his response was to plug his house and winery there. Is that "good enough for you"?
 
nota bene said:
I have fairly significant in-the-field experience in "making a difference." I don't see the need to "take a stand" against what the entire civilized world has taken a stand against since before I was born. As I've said, I think this is a huge "duh."

These cretinous white supremacists/neo-Nazis and their "Antifa" counterparts are equally contemptible. I suppose the fringe lunatics too will always be with us. The violence has to end; this has an impact on us all. Other than that, let them all have their parades and protests. And ignore them.
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Ya, I guess ignoring them is the easiest thing to do for people who aren't their targets........maybe you're right..........
 
I'm waiting for a poll taken that asks "How many White Supremacists stand with POTUS?"
 
OlNate said:
Ya, I guess ignoring them is the easiest thing to do for people who aren't their targets........maybe you're right..........
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Then by all means, buy a poster and marker, make a sign, and stand on a busy street corner effecting change.
 
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