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Thousands gather for peaceful candlelight vigil at UVA

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Thousands gather for peaceful candlelight vigil at UVA - CNN

Charlottesville (CNN)Thousands gathered Wednesday night for a vigil at the University of Virginia days after violent clashes in Charlottesville led to the death of a woman during a white supremacist rally. The crowd sang, "we are not afraid," a verse from "We Shall Overcome."The vigil organized by students and faculty grew from word of mouth, phone calls, emails and text messages as the university community tried to begin the healing process. The attendees refrained from publicizing the vigil on social media to ensure everyone's safety, organizers said.
People cupped candles, and sang spirituals, hymns and "The Star-Spangled Banner" in a roughly quarter-mile long procession that began at Nameless Field and ended at "the Lawn," near the Rotunda. They had walked the same route that torch-bearing white nationalists marched Friday protesting the removal of the Confederate statue of Gen. Robert E. Lee.
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God-damned violent lefty libs.... wait, what?
 
yankintx said:
If the news is from a right wing site, it must be real. Did the Don play editor on this piece?
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If the news is from CNN, it must be real. Did the Soros play editor on this piece?

See how that adds nothing?
 
How head bashing or ass kicking? How the hell do they expect to get ratings that way?

;)
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
So, one person gets violent verses thousands who don't. What do you think that shows?
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It shows that there is a segment of the left that is violent and gets a pass, largely because the left views their own anger as righteous. Violence against Nazis, for example, is just and to be applauded. Even though those Nazis have the same rights as you and I.
 
Fletch said:
It shows that there is a segment of the left that is violent and gets a pass, largely because the left views their own anger as righteous. Violence against Nazis, for example, is just and to be applauded. Even though those Nazis have the same rights as you and I.
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No it doesn't. It shows that, just like with the right, there are a small group of extremist morons who do not represent the main part of their ideology as a whole. Seems like you missed the point, Fletch.
 
Fletch said:
It shows that there is a segment of the left that is violent and gets a pass, largely because the left views their own anger as righteous. Violence against Nazis, for example, is just and to be applauded. Even though those Nazis have the same rights as you and I.
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Where is anyone who's gotten violent been given a pass?

Hell, I fully support this: Durham, North Carolina: Four arrested in toppling of Confederate statue - CNN

There are ways to protest and counter-protest. Taking the law into your own hands isn't one of them. Breaking the law is for sure not one of them.
Getting violent against another human being is absolutely criminal and should be punished. Regardless of the perceived "cause".

If some AntiFa jackass strikes anyone they should be held fully accountable and punished according to the law.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
No it doesn't. It shows that, just like with the right, there are a small group of extremist morons who do not represent the main part of their ideology as a whole. Seems like you missed the point, Fletch.
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I didn't miss the point at all. The right is forced to condemn its extremists, the left isn't. In fact, if you view some of the threads here, the violent radicals of the left are showered with praise. When you cast your political foes as evil, Nazis and racists and haters of women and the poor etc, it is 'just' to confront such people with violence. And that is what is happening. Do they represent the whole of the leftist ideology? No. But they are a predictable byproduct of it.
 
Fletch said:
It shows that there is a segment of the left that is violent and gets a pass, largely because the left views their own anger as righteous. Violence against Nazis, for example, is just and to be applauded. Even though those Nazis have the same rights as you and I.
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Can you list some examples of "left" politicians and news agencies that have said violent criminals and protesters they find politically favorable should get a free pass and not be held accountable to the law?

Just because they're not as outraged as you want them to be and don't lump everyone together into a single group doesn't mean they think people should get free passes on violent criminal offenses.

Dragonfly said:
Where is anyone who's gotten violent been given a pass?

Hell, I fully support this: Durham, North Carolina: Four arrested in toppling of Confederate statue - CNN

There are ways to protest and counter-protest. Taking the law into your own hands isn't one of them. Breaking the law is for sure not one of them.
Getting violent against another human being is absolutely criminal and should be punished. Regardless of the perceived "cause".

If some AntiFa jackass strikes anyone they should be held fully accountable and punished according to the law.
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I'm sure in Fletch's world the leftist cops just gave them a high five and released them without charges.
 
Fletch said:
I didn't miss the point at all. The right is forced to condemn its extremists, the left isn't. In fact, if you view some of the threads here, the violent radicals of the left are showered with praise. When you cast your political foes as evil, Nazis and racists and haters of women and the poor etc, it is 'just' to confront such people with violence. And that is what is happening. Do they represent the whole of the leftist ideology? No. But they are a predictable byproduct of it.
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The right isn't forced to condemn it's extremists. The right often denies who it's extremists even are. And the right often casts their political foes as evil, Marxists, haters of whites, and either racists or race-baiters, justifying their extremist views is rather easy for them. And that is exactly what's happening with this denial. Do they represent all of right wing ideology? Nope, but they are a natural movement from it.
 
Dragonfly said:
Where is anyone who's gotten violent been given a pass?

Hell, I fully support this: Durham, North Carolina: Four arrested in toppling of Confederate statue - CNN

There are ways to protest and counter-protest. Taking the law into your own hands isn't one of them. Breaking the law is for sure not one of them.
Getting violent against another human being is absolutely criminal and should be punished. Regardless of the perceived "cause".

If some AntiFa jackass strikes anyone they should be held fully accountable and punished according to the law.
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Its happened here quite a lot. I have specifically asked people to condemn them and they have taken a pass. Plus, I believe it was the campaign manager for Hillary who tweeted out a picture essentially comparing the antifa thugs to the Americans who stormed the beaches of Normandy. Hardly a rebuke of violent leftists that.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
The right isn't forced to condemn it's extremists.
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That is completely false. The whole issue with Trump is that he didn't condemn the Nazis to the liking of the left. He had the gall to actually state the truth--that it took two to tango and the violent leftist counter protesters were equally to blame for the violence.
 
Fletch said:
That is completely false. The whole issue with Trump is that he didn't condemn the Nazis to the liking of the left. He had the gall to actually state the truth--that it took two to tango and the violent leftist counter protesters were equally to blame for the violence.
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He condemned all those that were acting violently and being hateful. So you are wrong, as you would know, had you actually listened to the speech(s).
 
Fletch said:
That is completely false. The whole issue with Trump is that he didn't condemn the Nazis to the liking of the left. He had the gall to actually state the truth--that it took two to tango and the violent leftist counter protesters were equally to blame for the violence.
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Not false at all. What did Trump do? Presented some sort of false moral equivalence. If he had just condemned the positions of the extremists (not their right to free speech) things would have been different. But Trump was an excellent example of the right's inability to confront their extremists and their denial about who their extremists are. And did you actually read what you wrote? How DARE lefties think that condemning Nazi racists as being racists is a good thing.
 
Fletch said:
Its happened here quite a lot. I have specifically asked people to condemn them and they have taken a pass. Plus, I believe it was the campaign manager for Hillary who tweeted out a picture essentially comparing the antifa thugs to the Americans who stormed the beaches of Normandy. Hardly a rebuke of violent leftists that.
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All you are doing is using the exception proves the rule logical fallacy. Want me to repost some of the comments by your fellow righties here at DP who are blame the woman who died for being run over or who claim that the Nazis and the driver had no responsibility in the matter? How about right wingers online who said the same, or worse? Do THOSE people represent right wing ideology as a whole? Do you realize how hypocritical you are being?
 
Dragonfly said:
Thousands gather for peaceful candlelight vigil at UVA - CNN




God-damned violent lefty libs.... wait, what?
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Undoubtable, there are many fine people on the left who are peace loving and respectful of others and their free speech rights. Doesn't discount the fact that many of these peace loving leftists weren't anywhere to be found in the crowd that came out to counter-protest and confronted the white supremacists, looking for a fight, looking for violence, and found it. Your cute attempt at suggesting violence on the left doesn't exist fails miserably.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Undoubtable, there are many fine people on the left who are peace loving and respectful of others and their free speech rights. Doesn't discount the fact that many of these peace loving leftists weren't anywhere to be found in the crowd that came out to counter-protest and confronted the white supremacists, looking for a fight, looking for violence, and found it. Your cute attempt at suggesting violence on the left doesn't exist fails miserably.
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I do not believe he was trying to claim that violence on the left does not exist. What I believe he was trying to say was that it is nowhere near as rampant as many on the right falsely claim it to be and is practiced by extreme left wingers, a similar phenomenon we see from extreme right wingers.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Your cute attempt at suggesting violence on the left doesn't exist fails miserably.
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I never suggested that at all.

What's being suggested by many, is that the ONLY reason there was any violence in Charlottesville was due to the "leftist libooools".
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Just because they're not as outraged as you want them to be and don't lump everyone together into a single group doesn't mean they think people should get free passes on violent criminal offenses.
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Great line. Do you think the President and many on the right get the same benefit of the doubt when they are hounded by the media and leftists to genuflect and supplicate themselves for the misdeeds of others falsely viewed as their ideological soul mates?
 
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