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Neo-Nazi website is back online with Russian help

Beaudreaux said:
Damned good question. I don't have an answer for you. Maybe the private companies that host those web sites support those groups and condone their tactics, violence, intimidation, racism, and hatred of the targets of those groups?
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Could be. It's called the "free market." Right wingers used to be in favor of that, but now that it goes against racists...well I still can't figure out why that's a problem. Righties claim not to be racist and love to claim that Nazis were left wing. Since these groups are "all Democrats" you'd think they'd like it.
 
PirateMk1 said:
So why are the BLM Black Panthers Antifa and the like websites still up?
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Maybe because they didn't make fun of an innocent woman that was murdered by domestic terrorism.
 
rocket88 said:
Could be. It's called the "free market." Right wingers used to be in favor of that, but now that it goes against racists...well I still can't figure out why that's a problem. Righties claim not to be racist and love to claim that Nazis were left wing. Since these groups are "all Democrats" you'd think they'd like it.
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Not sure I understood your post, so if the following is not what you inferred, then I apologize in advance... that said:

Show me where I said I was not in favor of free market choices, please? WhyTF are you trying to conflate "righties" with racists and Nazis? Have you read my other posts in this thread? I (arguably a "righty" on most issues) have been arguing with "righties" with me being in favor of the private company's right to refuse service to this or any other hate group. In the post you quoted of mine, I was simply discussing the dichotomy in outrage that exists for certain companies, in that racism, hatred, and violence are bad coming from the KKK, the Alt-right, and White Nationalists (which of course it is), unless it's focused on Caucasian males, the free market of which you speak, financial institutions, the Constitution, Capitalism as a whole, free speech, diversity of ideas and opinions, or the police - just to name a few on the approved targets list - at which point these companies tend to ct as if that is okay (which of course, it is not okay either).
 
Rogue Valley said:
Maybe because they didn't make fun of an innocent woman that was murdered by domestic terrorism.
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Advocating the killing of Caucasians and police as well as supporting it when it happens like happened in Dallas is okay, as long as it isn't an innocent civilian woman?

What the group in the OP did was inexcusable, and they deserve to be (and I'm happy that they were) denied service by any decent person or company. However, to say that the BLM, the New Black Panther Party, and the Nation of Islam should not be subject to the same criticism and consequences for similar if not identical actions over the years, is concerning to me.
 
rocket88 said:
The same reason I have to answer for the actions of socialists.
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That you feel you have to answer for socialist is your issue, not mine. I don't have to answer for fascists because I am not one.
 
Beaudreaux said:
Not sure I understood your post, so if the following is not what you inferred, then I apologize in advance... that said:

Show me where I said I was not in favor of free market choices, please? WhyTF are you trying to conflate "righties" with racists and Nazis? Have you read my other posts in this thread? I (arguably a "righty" on most issues) have been arguing with "righties" with me being in favor of the private company's right to refuse service to this or any other hate group. In the post you quoted of mine, I was simply discussing the dichotomy in outrage that exists for certain companies, in that racism, hatred, and violence are bad coming from the KKK, the Alt-right, and White Nationalists (which of course it is), unless it's focused on Caucasian males, the free market of which you speak, financial institutions, the Constitution, Capitalism as a whole, free speech, diversity of ideas and opinions, or the police - just to name a few on the approved targets list - at which point these companies tend to ct as if that is okay (which of course, it is not okay either).
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Not you personally, but a number of folks on the right seem to be triggered by the actions of various tech companies. They are free to offer or withhold services as they see fit.
 
sanman said:
If you worked for CNN, they'd have fired you for that post. :doh
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If I'd worked for CNN then I never would have done so. I would have posted a picture of a cop being beaten by eight Antifa brats, and said they were just defending their liberties.
 
Nilly said:
Those aren't nazi swastika's.
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I know, but it was the closest friendly picture I could find.

Save for a picture with an old grandmother cooking them, but for some reason it wouldn't load. :(
 
Of course Neo-Nazi website is back online with Russian help

Our neo-fascists love Russia and hate America
 
apdst said:
A lot of good it did, huh? They're back, with Russia's help. With tons and tons of free publicity.
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Cardinal is focused on the short term emotional victory, don't harsh his buzz with reality.
 
Beaudreaux said:
Advocating the killing of Caucasians and police as well as supporting it when it happens like happened in Dallas is okay, as long as it isn't an innocent civilian woman?

What the group in the OP did was inexcusable, and they deserve to be (and I'm happy that they were) denied service by any decent person or company. However, to say that the BLM, the New Black Panther Party, and the Nation of Islam should not be subject to the same criticism and consequences for similar if not identical actions over the years, is concerning to me.
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Perhaps they should be looked at more closely in relation to ToS violations. But that's whataboutism and not the crux of the current contretemps. Personally, I think Charlottesville is a tipping point with the immediate focus being on American Nazis, skinheads, white supremacists, and Aryan armed militia. What also sets this event apart is how badly Trump handled this tragedy and the national implications. I don't think Trump will ever politically recover from Charlottesville. It is the exclamation point! on a terrible initial six months.
 
poweRob said:
The question is, do you think is about freedom of speech with Russia? Or do you think it's about disrupting life in America as much as possible?

Neo-Nazi website is back online with Russian help

Neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer has found a home on the Russian internet after American tech companies refused to host it.

GoDaddy (GDDY) canceled the website's registration on Monday after The Daily Stormer published a derogatory story about Heather Heyer, who was killed while protesting against a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia at the weekend.

Google (GOOGL, Tech30) briefly became the registrar for the site, before it too canceled the site's registration later on Monday for violating its terms of service.
The site, which calls itself "The World's Most Genocidal Republican Website," was forced into the "dark web." That meant it could not be accessed through standard web browsers.
The original website, Dailystormer.com, was still offline on Wednesday afternoon. But the site could be accessed at Dailystormer.ru after the domain was registered with the Russian Network Information Center, or RU-CENTER.

Russia's largest domain name registrar confirmed it had registered the site.

"I should point out that registry is automatic, so RU-CENTER registers thousands of domains per day," spokesperson Egor Timofeev said in a statement emailed to CNNMoney.

"If we figure out that the domain owner's work doesn't correspond to the legal system, we will act according to Russian web standard regulation," he added.​

Let's see if it stays up shall we?
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Who gives a ****? Why do you people give them attention?




The crowd is not the sum of its parts.

I am a republican who did not vote for Trump (Or Hillary).
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Nilly said:
Except, really, it's not.
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Actually it is. What if one lives in a blue state like CA or IL or NY and they voted for Trump? Their vote didn't help put him in office because he received 0 electoral votes from those states.
 
JamesBY said:
Of course Neo-Nazi website is back online with Russian help

Our neo-fascists love Russia and hate America
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That information is obsolete. The Russian Government told the doman registrator to remove them.
 
RedAkston said:
Actually it is. What if one lives in a blue state like CA or IL or NY and they voted for Trump? Their vote didn't help put him in office because he received 0 electoral votes from those states.
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Lol, really Red? The fact that you can only drum up that in objection to my point practically vindicates my argument.

Is that the only objection you have? Would you have agreed with my point if I stated it conditionally with 'lived in a red state that gave him EC votes'?

In any case. Your point is moot because one could have voted for Trump in a Blue state but helped him in other ways. They could have attended rallys or picketed or convinced their swing state dwelling neighbor/family member or any number of other actions.
 
Nilly said:
Lol, really Red? The fact that you can only drum up that in objection to my point practically vindicates my argument.

Is that the only objection you have? Would you have agreed with my point if I stated it conditionally with 'lived in a red state that gave him EC votes'?

In any case. Your point is moot because one could have voted for Trump in a Blue state but helped him in other ways. They could have attended rallys or picketed or convinced their swing state dwelling neighbor/family member or any number of other actions.
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Try not to go too far out on that limb there Nilly, it's a really weak one.

My point is actually very relevant as I'm sure there were Hillary voters who could have attended rallys or picketed or convinced their swing state ... blah, blah blah.

I'd venture to say that Trump won based on the overwhelming number of anti-Hillary votes as opposed to votes for Trump. I voted for the SCOTUS not for either candidate because they both sucked but I also lived in a red state, even though Obama won that state in 2008.
 
RAMOSS said:
That information is obsolete. The Russian Government told the doman registrator to remove them.
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If so, the Russians helped them to get on to a "neutral" site the Russkies are probably funding.

Nilly has Roudy's number, yes.
 
RedAkston said:
Try not to go too far out on that limb there Nilly, it's a really weak one.
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You've (or anyone, really) yet to show that.

RedAkston said:
My point is actually very relevant as I'm sure there were Hillary voters who could have attended rallys or picketed or convinced their swing state ... blah, blah blah.
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??? How does that make it relevant? Blah blah blah is not a good argument.

RedAkston said:
I'd venture to say that Trump won based on the overwhelming number of anti-Hillary votes as opposed to votes for Trump. I voted for the SCOTUS not for either candidate because they both sucked but I also lived in a red state, even though Obama won that state in 2008.
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Your position is predicated on the fact that Trump/Hillary 'both sucked' when it's patently obvious that one sucks just an eeensey weensey bit more than the other. One allowed white nationalist ringleaders into the white house as chief strategist, emboldened nazi's to the point where they marched through American towns, and after the fact, empathized with their position. The other, did work stuff on a personal email account. Maybe Hillary would have sucked more as Pres (doubtful), maybe she didn't. We'll never know. What we do know is Trump absolutely does suck. On a ridiculous level. Even the Republican party is realizing this. How telling is it that Ryan, McConnell, McCain, along with many other republican senators and reps, have come out in direct contrast to Trump's comments on the past weeks events. It seems to only be the Trump voters, desperate to clear themselves of blame, to absolve themselves of complicity, who want to keep their warm feeling of 'not my fault or problem' that are yet to admit what a ****show Trump is.

You can talk about how you voted for Trump for SCOTUS reasons (and I believe you!), but all that really reveals is that you found the issue of SCOTUS more important than the issue of Nazi's marching through our country. And don't pretend to claim ignorance. We warned you. Hillary warned you. But you went ahead , dismissed us as hypersensitive snowflakes, and made the decision to vote for him anyway. That is the exact reason why Trump voters, even if they voted for Trump for other reasons, have some level of ownership in this. If you perform an act, even with good intentions, that results in horrible consequences, you still have to own that act. That's what personal responsibility is all about.
 
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Nilly said:
You've (or anyone, really) yet to show that.



??? How does that make it relevant? Blah blah blah is not a good argument.



Your position is predicated on the fact that Trump/Hillary 'both sucked' when it's patently obvious that one sucks just an eeensey weensey bit more than the other. One allowed white nationalist ringleaders into the white house as chief strategist, emboldened nazi's to the point where they marched through American towns, and after the fact, empathized with their position. The other, did work stuff on a personal email account.

You can talk about how you voted for Trump for SCOTUS reasons (and I believe you!), but all that really reveals is that you found the issue of SCOTUS more important than the issue of Nazi's marching through our country. And don't pretend to claim ignorance. We warned you. Hillary warned you. But you went ahead and made that decision anyway. That is the exact reason why Trump voters, even if they voted for Trump for other reasons, have some level of ownership in this. If you perform an act, even with good intentions, that results in horrible consequences, you still have to own that act. That's what personal responsibility is all about.
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I don't think I've read a bigger load of **** all week. With Snowflake Nation triggered this week, that's really saying something.

The blah, blah, blah was me cutting your ridiculous statement short. That has to be one of the dumbest leaps at a logical statement I've read all week, and I've read quite a few - from both sides of the political spectrum.

Summarizing Hillary's issues as just her doing work on a personal e-mail account is like saying that Steve Jobs just sat at a desk when running Apple.

White nationalists, skinheads, neo-nazis and the like existed long before Trump ever ran for office. They will most likely exist long after he's out of office. Maybe they have been "emboldened" because he's in the WH, but that's an indirect result and not a direct result. Trying to lay the blame for their existence and their hate is an ignorant and outright ridiculous assertion and anyone who says so is intellectually dishonest on an epic scale. They were protesting over the weekend because Snowflake Nation is so hurt by statues that they are taking them down everywhere. They were given the platform due to the actions of the imbecile snowflakes who get so easily triggered over the stupidest things.

When Snowflake Nation starts to take responsibility for the mistakes of the left, take NAFTA and Obamacare for example, then they can lecture someone on how evil they are for who they voted for in the worst Presidential election in the history of this country, at least candidate wise anyway.
 
Well good,maybe these nazi wannabes can get a permit to march in Russia. Although it seems ththat the last time Nazis.marched on Russia it did not go so well for them...
 
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