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Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia**[W:808]**

Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

ReverendHellh0und said:
There we go again. leftwing fascism rears it's ugly "if you don't agree with me you must be an alt-right nazi". It's so tiring.....
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I'm pretty tired of it as a "go-to."
 
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Jack Hays said:
The odious nature of the white supremacists' views notwithstanding, they had in fact complied with all legal requirements and had a permit to demonstrate. The counter protesters, however laudable their sentiments, had not and did not.
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Jack Hays said:
Please note those permits were not for the same place as the white supremacist demonstration, where the confrontations occurred. Your news is neither new nor relevant. The point remains, as far as I know, that the supremacists were within the bounds of a permit and the counter protesters were not.
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FYI,


"Technically, counter-protesters were the only ones who had a city permit for 12 August 2017 events. For the UVA “alt-right” rally the night before, no permits were needed and it was a judge’s injunction on the night of 11 August 2017 that allowed the “Unite the Right” rally to be held the next day at Emancipation Park. "

"counter-demonstrators did not need a permit to protest the white supremacist rally at Emancipation Park because it is a public space:"

FACT CHECK: Counter-Demonstrators Didn't Have Permits in Charlottesville?
 
Buck naked said:
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FYI,


"Technically, counter-protesters were the only ones who had a city permit for 12 August 2017 events. For the UVA “alt-right” rally the night before, no permits were needed and it was a judge’s injunction on the night of 11 August 2017 that allowed the “Unite the Right” rally to be held the next day at Emancipation Park. "

"counter-demonstrators did not need a permit to protest the white supremacist rally at Emancipation Park because it is a public space:"

FACT CHECK: Counter-Demonstrators Didn't Have Permits in Charlottesville?
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If no permit was needed for Emancipation Park why did the white supremacist marchers need a federal court order?
 
Jack Hays said:
If no permit was needed for Emancipation Park why did the white supremacist marchers need a federal court order?
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Who said “no permit was needed for Emancipation Park”?

No permit is required to counter protest the “Unite the Right” rally.

It’s required by law to obtain a permit in order to hold a rally at Emancipation Park. Once a rally has been issued a permit(in this particular case, an injunction by a judge), the public, even if they are counter protesting, are not required by law to obtain a permit to demonstrate against protesters.
 
Buck naked said:
Who said “no permit was needed for Emancipation Park”?

No permit is required to counter protest the “Unite the Right” rally.

It’s required by law to obtain a permit in order to hold a rally at Emancipation Park. Once a rally has been issued a permit(in this particular case, an injunction by a judge), the public, even if they are counter protesting, are not required by law to obtain a permit to demonstrate against protesters.
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Ah. So a requirement was imposed on the white supremacists that was not imposed on their opponents?
 
Jack Hays said:
Ah. So a requirement was imposed on the white supremacists that was not imposed on their opponents?
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I think(I’m not sure) one of the permit requirements for the “Unite the Right” rally at Emancipation Park was because they planned to use sound amplifying equipment for their speakers. Every city may have different requirements. Generally, a large rally(I assume the carrying capacity of the area), public safety, sound equipment usage, a parade or march that may block traffic or close streets or due to spillage of the crowds onto streets, or usage of specific parks and plazas may require certain types of rallies to obtain a permit.

Furthermore, protesters of rallies are not required to obtain a permit and have the right to be present and to, voice their displeasure at the rally, as it is public and not private land.​

I’m sorry that you did not look into the laws before doubling down and posting your opinion as if fact, but the fact of the matter, no matter how unfair or contradictory you think it is, is the law allows for counter-protestors to voice their displeasure against any rally on public spaces without a permit.​
 
Buck naked said:
I think(I’m not sure) one of the permit requirements for the “Unite the Right” rally at Emancipation Park was because they planned to use sound amplifying equipment for their speakers. Every city may have different requirements. Generally, a large rally(I assume the carrying capacity of the area), public safety, sound equipment usage, a parade or march that may block traffic or close streets or due to spillage of the crowds onto streets, or usage of specific parks and plazas may require certain types of rallies to obtain a permit.

Furthermore, protesters of rallies are not required to obtain a permit and have the right to be present and to, voice their displeasure at the rally, as it is public and not private land.​

I’m sorry that you did not look into the laws before doubling down and posting your opinion as if fact, but the fact of the matter, no matter how unfair or contradictory you think it is, is the law allows for counter-protestors to voice their displeasure against any rally on public spaces without a permit.​
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I really don't have a dog in this fight, and if you go back to the beginning of this tangent you'll find I was only passing on NBC's account.
 
Jack Hays said:
I really don't have a dog in this fight, and if you go back to the beginning of this tangent you'll find I was only passing on NBC's account.
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I only entered the fray to stop the defenders(such as the US President, etc) of the "Unite the Right" rally (aka, Neo-Nazi's, White supremacists, etc) from using the misinformed excuse that they had a permit versus the counter-protesters that didn't have a permit nonsense. That's why I entered into the fray with "FYI". Facts matter.
 
Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

ReverendHellh0und said:
There we go again. leftwing fascism rears it's ugly "if you don't agree with me you must be an alt-right nazi". It's so tiring.....
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Okay, maybe you're not alt-right. Maybe you just like spewing racist crap independently. Is that better?
 
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ecofarm said:
Okay, maybe you're not alt-right. Maybe you just like spewing racist crap independently. Is that better?
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Please post a link to one thing I said that was racist, or retract and apologize for your disgusting lie. Why you people feel the need to resort to slandering those who disagree with you, I will never understand that sick mindset, but you cheapen the very real issue or racism, when you use the false charge against those who you don't agree with.


You should feel shame and embarrassment, I know I feel it for you.
 
Buck naked said:
I only entered the fray to stop the defenders(such as the US President, etc) of the "Unite the Right" rally (aka, Neo-Nazi's, White supremacists, etc) from using the misinformed excuse that they had a permit versus the counter-protesters that didn't have a permit nonsense. That's why I entered into the fray with "FYI". Facts matter.
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As you wish.
 
Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

ReverendHellh0und said:
Please post a link to one thing I said that was racist, or retract and apologize for your disgusting lie.
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Insisting that hundreds of muslims were celebrating on 9/11 in New Jersey?

A disgusting lie you never retracted.
 
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Threegoofs said:
Insisting that hundreds of muslims were celebrating on 9/11 in New Jersey?

A disgusting lie you never retracted.
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When did Muslims become a race? And by when, I mean in reality, not in some liberal fantasy land.
 
Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

RedAkston said:
When did Muslims become a race? And by when, I mean in reality, not in some liberal fantasy land.
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All that guy posts at me is that there wasn't a crowd of muslims on crooks ave in paterson cheering the towers falling as several police chiefs stated as well as several eye witneses. As a person who lost family members on 911, his anonymous trolling of me is rather annoying, but its the dirt on my feet I pay the pooper scooper 60 bucks a month to clean up. its not really a bother to me.
 
Jack Hays said:
Ah. So a requirement was imposed on the white supremacists that was not imposed on their opponents?
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Don't get all giddy, fella. Other groups had a permit too, not just Unite the Right.
 
Re: Far-right protesters gather at University of Virginia

ReverendHellh0und said:
All that guy posts at me is that there wasn't a crowd of muslims on crooks ave in paterson cheering the towers falling as several police chiefs stated as well as several eye witneses. As a person who lost family members on 911, his anonymous trolling of me is rather annoying, but its the dirt on my feet I pay the pooper scooper 60 bucks a month to clean up. its not really a bother to me.
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And you knew the were midline because... you recognized them from the mosque?
 
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