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Google Fires Author of Divisive Memo on Gender Differences [W:547]

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By the way, has the offending memo surfaced anywhere?
 
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That darn free market strikes again. If only we had conservative law governing workplaces to insist on women being inferiors would we be a just people.

No I don't want to see the Handmaid's tale become reality. That looks bleak and dreadful.
 
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Sure, but we're talking about women being engineers here. I'm sure there are some natural differences with regard to that as well but I don't see the point in highlighting it as a work issue.

I think the point of the memo was to suggest there may be other explanations to the paucity of women computer engineers than misogyny ect.
 
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You think employers should be forced to employ scumbags? How pro-business of you.

Keep apologizing for dumbass misogynists. It lets everyone know where you stand.

uh his username is JoeTrumps... I think we know what that means.
 
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in some cases they are-its why Serena Williams at her best can't beat the seven hundredth ranked male player and why a decent high school boys basketball team would annihilate the WBA champions.

I work with one female engineer and she always gets "mistaken for," being an assistant or a secretary. Not the lady in charge of all VOIP phones/Data and cell phones. Everyone is always so shocked about her position. It hurts me that more women don't want to become engineers because they think they can make it in fashion or some other girly nonsense. So in a sense it's only female interests that hold them back. Not female biology. But I think that will change in future generations. Lots of women are growing up with computers and are able to code just as well as any man. Sometimes better.
 
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Generally speaking women are physiologically different from men. They haven't the same strength nor endurance as men. This is a fact of nature no one can disprove.

The different hormones that dominate men and women produce different effects. Another fact.

To say women are qualified for every task men are qualified for isn't logical and vice versa.

This false premise that 'everyone is equal' is wrecking our society. Everyone is not equal. Some are smarter, dumber, stronger, weaker, more attractive, less attractive and so on. This is a fact of life and no amount of social engineering will change it. The PC crowd can shame, name call and bully weak minded people into pretending everyone is equal but it just ain't so.

in the eyes of God everyone is equal. In the eyes of the law everyone is equal but in the eyes of nature we are all different. Get used to it.

The guy who wrote the memo is an idiot for saying what he believes in public. So see, he's not equal to everyone else who keeps it to themselves.
 
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Where'd you read that? It'd be a hoot to see your "men's rights" blog citation.
Now... I really took the time to do the dirty work for you, because you are entirely ideologically based... and wouldn't put forth the effort... but these links are citations from All sorts of profession science, humanities, and social studies...

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3149680/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19883140

Neuroimmunology and neuroepigenetics in the establishment of sex differences in the brain : Nature Reviews Neuroscience : Nature Research

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3166361/

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.397.5485&rep=rep1&type=pdf

https://www.econstor.eu/bitstream/10419/86359/1/04-087.pdf

http://www.mdpi.com/2409-9287/2/2/12/htm

http://stanmed.stanford.edu/2017spr...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

And all of these are pure gold...

Given all of that you still have a significant wing of acedemia trying to do stuff like this.. http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jul/13/feminist-geographers-dont-cite-research-white-men/
and they write crap like this http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/18902138.2014.892281?journalCode=rnor20
No bias there /roll
 
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None of that provides evidence for the Google moron's claims.
 
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By the way, has the offending memo surfaced anywhere?

Here you go.

I read it quickly. As a general observation, Google can do what it wants with hiring and firing, but I didn't see anything on the first run that rose above the level of "that's pretty stupid (or poorly reasoned)" with me. Not sure why they'd fire the guy over this memo.
 
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If mens rights = women hating, does womens rights =men hating? Does that idiom VS pejorative thing factor in?

Men are not a disadvantaged minority. "Men's rights" is obvious garbage upon perusal; try any of the whackjob blogs.
 
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Are not men and women about equal parts of the population (in general) ?

In social dynamics, the majority in question is power not population. That's why women are a minority. If it was based on population, majority might go back and forth every few years and thus would be meaningless.
 
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-organic&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

I didn't expect Google to fire this guy so quickly. This says very bad things about them & progressive culture

The Left doesn't get this, but its not illegal to think or say or write about things they disagree with.

Its not illegal for people to speak their minds, but they can also face consequences for it. Google is a private corporation and they can let go of whoever violates their rules. Capitalism at work and thats a good thing.
 
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You think employers should be forced to employ scumbags? How pro-business of you.

Keep apologizing for dumbass misogynists. It lets everyone know where you stand.

No, its about people having the right to have their own opinions. Even though all Damore did was point out a known fact about the differences between woman, and men being a vastly deciding factor in the workplace. He did not deserve to get punished over an opinion that was by all rights his to have. At most, the company could have just sat him down, and said "no more writing memos for you"

It is basically along the lines of you're boss firing you for saying that you thought red crayons were better, even though they really liked the green ones. This is thought policing at its finest.

I would like to point out the irony here, that the person condemning his statement in the memo. Was the vice president of diversity, integrity, and governance.. how laughable is that?
 
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There were plenty of people who work at Google who agreed with the memo. Do you think they should also be rounded up and summarily fired? Maybe send them to reeducation camps?

What do you expect from a company that has become so intensely social justice, that its eating its own on a daily basis, because they shared actual facts known throughout the country.

Being openly conservative is akin to being a leper now it seems. Not to mention how bad it is to be one in the current college setting, the campus at Georgia U has gotten bad in some cases. But that place is on the low end of the spectrum compared to the ones you about hear all the time now, like Berkley.
 
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No, its about people having the right to have their own opinions.

No one is taking any rights away. There's no reason to play the victim-card here. He has the right to say what he wants and others have the right to criticize. A business has the right to fire an employee that's harming the company (and breaks the employment contract). Would you like to make businesses slaves of the employees? That sounds awful communist to me.

Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism or freedom from being fired.

You are presenting a baseless defense of sexism. Put down the victim-card and step away.
 
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Not entirely. There are numerous studies in scientific journals arguing such biological differences-- besides the obvious of course.

I don't think people are mad about the facts, or the studies being done in the first place. I think they are mad because he dared to have an opinion that wasn't a part of the hive in the first place.
 
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I don't think people are mad about the facts, or the studies being done in the first place. I think they are mad because he dared to have an opinion that wasn't a part of the hive in the first place.

There are no studies or facts backing up his ignorant and sexist claims.
 
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No one is taking any rights away. There's no reason to play the victim-card here. He has the right to say what he wants and others have the right to criticize. A business has the right to fire an employee that's harming the company (and breaks the employment contract). Would you like to make businesses slaves of the employees? That sounds awful communist to me.

Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism or freedom from being fired.

You are presenting a baseless defense of sexism. Put down the victim-card and step away.

You're forgetting that a business has no right to police the thoughts, and opinions of their own employees. Much less saying something that is an actual fact of biology, and in most cases a social upbringing. I have no need of a victim card, when I have the use of critical thinking.
 
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You're forgetting that a business has no right to police the thoughts, and opinions of their own employees.

It didn't. It policed his actions.

Much less saying something that is an actual fact of biology, and in most cases a social upbringing. I have no need of a victim card, when I have the use of critical thinking.

There are no facts or studies supporting his ignorant and sexist claims. Stop pretending otherwise. And stop playing the victim-card.

Being openly conservative is akin to being a leper now it seems.

You poor, poor victim.
 
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There are no studies or facts backing up his ignorant and sexist claims.

Just because it doesn't exist on you're search history, does not mean it doesn't exist at all.

People ignore the fact that woman do plenty of things differently when compared to men, simply for biological reasons. If people choose to think that both woman, and men are the same, and the differences between them in the workplace are because of sexist reasons. Then that is their own hang up, and not one of a rational thinking adult.
 
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Just because it doesn't exist on you're search history, does not mean it doesn't exist at all.

No one has presented anything supporting his claims and neither will you. His remarks were sexist and baseless.
 
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Here you go.

I read it quickly. As a general observation, Google can do what it wants with hiring and firing, but I didn't see anything on the first run that rose above the level of "that's pretty stupid (or poorly reasoned)" with me. Not sure why they'd fire the guy over this memo.

Agreed. Seemed to me like a combination of a thoughtful memo with, however, some significant use of straw men to demolish. He doesn't paint a very flattering picture of males.
 
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I would suggest those offended by google not use their products.

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