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Trump donates three-month salary to Department of Education

americanwoman said:
Okay, well good thing I never mentioned kids being fed. :lol:

But on that topic, I have no problem with the school lunch program feeding children.
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Neither do I however the role belongs to the states and local communities to decide and fund, not the federal taxpayers. Civics 101
 
americanwoman said:
Better my heart be focused on helping educate and raise well children than focused on dropping bombs on them halfway around the world. For all you say about this massive government, how do you feel about the military and defense budget? The overreach of police? It's cool though because when it's things you support you can get behind it. I do too but at least I can admit it.
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That is the problem, your heart tells you one thing and the results tell you another. It isn't wise to think solely with your heart. Defense is a Federal Responsibility, social is state and local, civics 101
 
ttwtt78640 said:
But "equal protection" means that only those 2 million kids should get about $800 each in (special?) federal help under the federal power of education. ;)

Every federal spending program can be shown to do some good so none of them should ever be cut and all of them should get more funding each and every year becuase the constitution plainly says so - look it up. ;)
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LOL, I have looked and looked and looked and no where can I find that it is the Federal Government's role to feed school kids or even fund local schools. I cannot even find Marriage in the Constitution but bureaucrats found a way to become career politicians and keep their job for life by buying votes with Federal taxpayer dollars. What an incredible job of indoctrination the left has done
 
In January I would have bet heavily that DJT wouldn't be employed by the time the second check was issued...................maybe by the third...
 
Conservative said:
That is the problem, your heart tells you one thing and the results tell you another. It isn't wise to think solely with your heart. Defense is a Federal Responsibility, social is state and local, civics 101
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True, in much of life you can't follow your heart.

But my head also agrees that putting money in our children isn't a bad thing.
 
Conservative said:
LOL, I have looked and looked and looked and no where can I find that it is the Federal Government's role to feed school kids or even fund local schools. I cannot even find Marriage in the Constitution but bureaucrats found a way to become career politicians and keep their job for life by buying votes with Federal taxpayer dollars. What an incredible job of indoctrination the left has done
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Lately, it seems to be that the federal power to tax means that whatever that tax money is spent on is related to a federal power. ;)
 
americanwoman said:
True, in much of life you can't follow your heart.

But my head also agrees that putting money in our children isn't a bad thing.
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I agree but do you actually believe that the state and local citizens will not fund this program and let kids starve?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Lately, it seems to be that the federal power to tax means that whatever that tax money is spent on is related to a federal power. ;)
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Exactly, the more taxdollars received the stronger and more powerful the federal govt. gets. The more power the more dependence that is created all in the name of compassion.
 
Conservative said:
Exactly, the more taxdollars received the stronger and more powerful the federal govt. gets. The more power the more dependence that is created all in the name of compassion.
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The situation becomes more dangerous when congress critters realize that they can regularly spend more than they dare ask for via direct taxation. Essentially, the congressional budgeting power to borrow from future generations is unlimited - simply raise the "debt ceiling" and promise to pay it back "when things get better".
 
NEVER will posts such as those from conservative Conservative ever merit a ''like'' .
One .. its the parents responsibility, and if they are not up to this, then , we go up the chain - to the top, if necessary .. This is the federal government for those with ''grasping problems" .
OR , we could go past this and beg - borrow - and steal , the way it used to be .. and this is NOT ''making America great again'' .
 
You people **** yourself over even this.

Amazing.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I'll go one step further. It isn't the federal or state or local government's job to feed school kids. It is a sacred responsibility of PARENTS to see that their children are housed, properly clothed, fed, educated, and instructed in good citizenship and appropriate values. Further it is the PARENT'S responsibility to be sure their kids are properl looked after and supervised. Millions upon millions of people did that before the federal government started meddling in the process.

If local school districts or communities wish to pool resources for programs that make such responsibilities easier for parent's to fulfill, who can argue that such is not a good thing? But such was NEVER intended to be a responsibility or authority given to the federal government in the first place.
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A lot of people don't take care of their kids like they should.
 
Conservative said:
What we have here are well intentioned liberals who think only with their hearts and in doing so create the massive central govt. we have today and the massive debt. Wonder how much that 400 billion or so in debt service would fund?
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I am more about results than bs principles created by two failed parties. I don't care how we go about getting a decent health care system, school sysyem, etc. I want solutions and I want how we do it to be logical, successful, and ultimately work.
 
americanwoman said:
Hush now. We'd rather pay millions of dollars for his travel expenses than invest in the well being of our children and then cry about how the government shouldn't be paying for ridiculous programs. /s.
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Stuff like this makes me hope all those working class people who voted for Trump lose their food stamps, unemployment, and medicare/medicade. They never think of themselves as takers, and the southern states are especially poor, unemployed, and dependent on handouts.
 
SheWolf said:
A lot of people don't take care of their kids like they should.
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But when society EXPECTED and REQUIRED people to take care of their kids, the kids who were being seriously neglected and/or malnourished were removed from the home. Thus such cases of abuse and neglect were pretty rare. Even poor families fed and provided essential necessities for their kids. Now, depending on what statistics you look at, as many as 1 in 3 children in the U.S. live at or under the poverty line and receive government assistance and that number grew under the Obama administration.

Maybe instead of the government doing what parents were once expected to do and thus encouraging more and more irresponsibility from parents, we should look at those more 'primitive' values as the answer to the problem?
 
ttwtt78640 said:
The situation becomes more dangerous when congress critters realize that they can regularly spend more than they dare ask for via direct taxation. Essentially, the congressional budgeting power to borrow from future generations is unlimited - simply raise the "debt ceiling" and promise to pay it back "when things get better".
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Don't you just love how the left says tax the rich so they can fund some other social program as if Congress wouldn't spend the money regardless?
 
Conservative said:
Give me a fricken break, it isn't the Federal Government's responsibility to feed kids in local school districts, that is a state and local responsibility. Please, leftists take a civics class to understand the true role of the Federal Govt. as well as state and local responsibilities. Absolutely stunning how indoctrinated the left is on massive moves towards one central govt. with total control. Do you people have any clue as to what you are trying to create?
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What about when the state and local governments fail at doing that job for decades?
 
vash1012 said:
What about when the state and local governments fail at doing that job for decades?
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Then that is an issue for the electorate in the state and all states to the best of my knowledge have term limits. It is a lot easier for politicians to delegate responsibility to someone else when the reality is you can NEVER delegate responsibility and the responsibility for social problems rests in the states.
 
Conservative said:
Don't you just love how the left says tax the rich so they can fund some other social program as if Congress wouldn't spend the money regardless?
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It is not just "the left" that favors ever more federal power and spending. Unfortunately, we have the party for a bigger federal government often willing to compromise with the party for a huge federal government.
 
AlbqOwl said:
But when society EXPECTED and REQUIRED people to take care of their kids, the kids who were being seriously neglected and/or malnourished were removed from the home. Thus such cases of abuse and neglect were pretty rare. Even poor families fed and provided essential necessities for their kids. Now, depending on what statistics you look at, as many as 1 in 3 children in the U.S. live at or under the poverty line and receive government assistance and that number grew under the Obama administration.

Maybe instead of the government doing what parents were once expected to do and thus encouraging more and more irresponsibility from parents, we should look at those more 'primitive' values as the answer to the problem?
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We live in a different world. It's no longer the 1950s - 1980s. We have a lot of unemployment and underemployment, and most importantly, we have a lot of people addicted to heroin, meth, and other drugs. People doing drugs are not capable of taking care of their kids.

A lot of people in my family work in ERs, and especially in the rural hospitals, it mostly all overdoses. They call children services to the hospital. This is probably a lot more common than you realize.

Yes, when kids are that badly neglected, we take the kids away.

This kind of stuff is unacceptable:
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SheWolf said:
We live in a different world. It's no longer the 1950s - 1980s. We have a lot of unemployment and underemployment, and most importantly, we have a lot of people addicted to heroin, meth, and other drugs. People doing drugs are not capable of taking care of their kids.

A lot of people in my family work in ERs, and especially in the rural hospitals, it mostly all overdoses. They call children services to the hospital. This is probably a lot more common than you realize.

Yes, when kids are that badly neglected, we take the kids away.

This kind of stuff is unacceptable:
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I'm not arguing that. But should kids be left with drugged out addicts who can't or won't take care of them? I say no.
 
AlbqOwl said:
I'll go one step further. It isn't the federal or state or local government's job to feed school kids. It is a sacred responsibility of PARENTS to see that their children are housed, properly clothed, fed, educated, and instructed in good citizenship and appropriate values. Further it is the PARENT'S responsibility to be sure their kids are properl looked after and supervised. Millions upon millions of people did that before the federal government started meddling in the process.

If local school districts or communities wish to pool resources for programs that make such responsibilities easier for parent's to fulfill, who can argue that such is not a good thing? But such was NEVER intended to be a responsibility or authority given to the federal government in the first place.
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Gosh, it woudl be nice if there was a living wage.
 
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