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Britain bans gasoline and diesel cars starting in 2040

Hopefully by 2040 we'll have better battery technology so this will be less of an issue.

Really, all politics aside, fossil fuels are just dirty... they wreck air, water and land. When I went back to visit my home town in the U.S. last year, a gas station that had been closed 5 years ago still stood empty. Developments were halted while the land could be reclamated.

The only natural systems that can sort of reclamate fossil fuels are wetlands, but we have so little left of them in the world.

I understand all the economic arguments but really, humans need to stop ****ting where they eat.
 
Hopefully by 2040 we'll have better battery technology so this will be less of an issue.

Really, all politics aside, fossil fuels are just dirty... they wreck air, water and land. When I went back to visit my home town in the U.S. last year, a gas station that had been closed 5 years ago still stood empty. Developments were halted while the land could be reclamated.

The only natural systems that can sort of reclamate fossil fuels are wetlands, but we have so little left of them in the world.

I understand all the economic arguments but really, humans need to stop ****ting where they eat.

At this point if we stop using fossil fuels, we would just have to stop eating period.
until a viable replacement is ready, we will still need fossil fuels.
 
Britian is supposed to be a free country

And liberals claim that electric cars are so WUNNERFUL

So why does the government have to beat consumers over the head to make them buy electric cars?

By 2040, it won't make any economic sense to NOT buy an electric car. Innovation and technology...why do you fear it?
 
By 2040, it won't make any economic sense to NOT buy an electric car. Innovation and technology...why do you fear it?

I do not think many fear it, we just want the best technology.
When the government chooses the winner, it may not pick the best technology.
I actually think a fuel cell electric might be the long term winner, but would like to see it win
on it's own merit, vs Government fiat (not the car).
 
Even if you don't care about the environment at all, which is a ridiculous opinion since we live in it, I would think more people would be behind drastically reducing our dependence on foreign oil given how little we could give a F*CK about the middle east and Russia if Europe and the United States weren't reliant on them for oil and natural gas. We could ignore all their squabbles like we do Africa.
 
I do not think many fear it, we just want the best technology.
When the government chooses the winner, it may not pick the best technology.
I actually think a fuel cell electric might be the long term winner, but would like to see it win
on it's own merit, vs Government fiat (not the car).

Do you think that gas powered cars will be used on a wide scale by 2040?
 
maybe britain can ban all above ground buildings to appease the enviromental cultists

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Or just ban people

Less people means less deman for stuff that liberals hate - like oil

And dont think it hasn't occured to them

A liberal professor at UT-Austin said the best thing that could happen to the earth was for a virus to wipe out 90% of the human race.
 
By 2040, it won't make any economic sense to NOT buy an electric car. Innovation and technology...why do you fear it?

The fear is in you not me

liberals are so afraid that you are wrong they are passing laws to ban gas and diesel cars

So your confidence level is not too high
 
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It is not about the world ending. When you will be able to figure that out you will be better off.

Liberals scream about polar bears drowning and all the world's coastal cities under water followed by world starvaton

Maybe they only say that to terrify fragile snowflakes in the universities but many liberals take it seriously
 
I expect Germany and the UK will reverse both laws around 2034.

Germany especially as so much of their economy is based on automobile production and being seen as the producer of the most engaging cars for drivers

They may not have to. Solid state batteries are expected to be an economically viable solution for electric cars around 2022 or so, if that is the case, within a few years electric cars will be quite competitive as ranges would increase dramatically and the charge times will be down to just a few minutes.

Even if that doesn't fully happen, I would suspect by 2040 we will all be driving some form of plug in hybrids anyway.
 
That's a commitment for sure. I can understand Britain's concern for air pollution since their coal disaster in the 1950's that killed so many people and impaired so many more.

Good on them.

Britain bans gasoline and diesel cars starting in 2040

Britain will ban sales of new gasoline and diesel cars starting in 2040 as part of a bid to clean up the country's air.

The decision to phase out the internal combustion engine heralds a new era of low-emission technologies with major implications for the auto industry, society and the environment.
"We can't carry on with diesel and petrol cars," U.K. environment secretary Michael Gove told the BBC on Wednesday. "There is no alternative to embracing new technology."

Almost 2.7 million new cars were registered in the U.K. in 2016, making it the second biggest market in Europe after Germany.

Meeting the 2040 deadline will be a heavy lift. British demand for electric and fuel cell cars, as well as plug-in hybrids, grew 40% in 2015, but they only accounted for less than 3% of the market.

Still, experts say sales of clean cars are likely to continue on their dramatic upward trajectory.​

1. 2040 is a long way off. World War III may wipe us all out by then.

2. See, we didn't need the US in the Paris accord at all. Life goes on.
 
I do not think many fear it, we just want the best technology.
When the government chooses the winner, it may not pick the best technology.
I actually think a fuel cell electric might be the long term winner, but would like to see it win
on it's own merit, vs Government fiat (not the car).

I would imagine that plugin hybrids are more practical and more economically viable in the future than fuel cells. With a plugin hybrid the only time you are burning gas is on a road trip.

The other big technological revolution that companies like Toyota are betting on is solid state batteries for cars. Ranges would then be increased dramatically and charge times would be a matter of minutes.

Technology wise, 2040 is a few lifetimes from now. It is very hard to say what we will be driving then.
 
By 2040, it won't make any economic sense to NOT buy an electric car. Innovation and technology...why do you fear it?
If thats true than a law mandating it isnt necessary

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Good, more for me. What are they waiting for, though? They're fine with another 22 years of planetary destruction? Real commitment would be to start now.

It would be devastating to the economy and families to force them to throw away cars just purchased and invested in...
 
If thats true than a law mandating it isnt necessary

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Thats what I pointed out to them

On the one hand they tell us the lost secrets of Atlantis are just around the corner and there is NOTHING anyone can do to stop it because solar panels and windmills are soooooooo much better

But then just in case someone didn't get the message they pass a law to bully consumers into making the choice that liberals want them to make

Its as if teddy roosevelt wanted to "encourage" farmers to buy tractors so he sent government agents out to shoot all the horses and mules
 
Bibles can be slippery im glad your clinging tightly on yours

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The lib bible is called "An Inconvenient Truth"
 
The fear is in you not me

liberals are so afraid that you are wrong they are passing laws to ban gas and diesel cars

So your confidence level is not too high

What a stupid post. ...blah blah blah...liberals...blah blah
 
What a stupid post. ...blah blah blah...liberals...blah blah

derp derp libs, they are all like derp and think derp. Let me tell you something else about libs derp derp.
 
That's a commitment for sure. I can understand Britain's concern for air pollution since their coal disaster in the 1950's that killed so many people and impaired so many more.

Good on them.

Britain bans gasoline and diesel cars starting in 2040

Britain will ban sales of new gasoline and diesel cars starting in 2040 as part of a bid to clean up the country's air.

The decision to phase out the internal combustion engine heralds a new era of low-emission technologies with major implications for the auto industry, society and the environment.
"We can't carry on with diesel and petrol cars," U.K. environment secretary Michael Gove told the BBC on Wednesday. "There is no alternative to embracing new technology."

Almost 2.7 million new cars were registered in the U.K. in 2016, making it the second biggest market in Europe after Germany.

Meeting the 2040 deadline will be a heavy lift. British demand for electric and fuel cell cars, as well as plug-in hybrids, grew 40% in 2015, but they only accounted for less than 3% of the market.

Still, experts say sales of clean cars are likely to continue on their dramatic upward trajectory.​

A number of countries in Europe are making this and similar decisions. It is interesting economically.
 
If thats true than a law mandating it isnt necessary

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Efficiency improvements (appliances, CAFE standards, IT and so on) are mandated all the time that would have happened anyway, but would have taken decades longer otherwise. For example, today full size trucks are more fuel efficient than ever before. They also are faster, pull more, haul more, have more horsepower and torque than ever before as well as being cleaner than ever before. Without the goal of CAFE standards to hit, those technological advances would not have been achieved so quickly. The same is true across the automotive industry.
 
A number of countries in Europe are making this and similar decisions. It is interesting economically.

I'm curious to see how it pans out as it unfolds. Many in here are looking at it like "AAAARRRGH GOVERMENT REGULATION!" but I'm kind of seeing it like it could be more like an Apollo project with lots of technological spinoffs beneficial in other ways and for other industries possibly.
 
What a stupid post. ...blah blah blah...liberals...blah blah

If peddle cars and batteries are better you don't need laws to bully consumers with

Liberals are talking out of both sides of their mouth
 
I'm curious to see how it pans out as it unfolds. Many in here are looking at it like "AAAARRRGH GOVERMENT REGULATION!" but I'm kind of seeing it like it could be more like an Apollo project with lots of technological spinoffs beneficial in other ways and for other industries possibly.
I think of it more as *cough* putting the foot on the gas.

I can understand the objection to the regulation portion, and I'm sure everyone who has ever worked on Top Gear is livid right now. However, I believe the industry is already moving in this direction, so this will speed up the transition.

It's also critical to note that hybrids will not be banned. So, I don't expect this will be too difficult to achieve.
 
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