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Russian lawyer who met Trump Jr had the FSB state intelligence agency as a client

Mycroft said:
OOOOHHHH!!!

More delicious nothingburgers for you to sink your teeth into!!
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No, another Whopper!

RAMOSS said:
Other lawyers disagree.


It will be up to the special prosecutor and his lawyers to ultimately choose to prosecute or not though.
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Trump's already exploring the possiblity of pre-pardoning himself and the kids....
 
RAMOSS said:
Other lawyers disagree.

It will be up to the special prosecutor and his lawyers to ultimately choose to prosecute or not though.
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Exactly, must be why my post also said;

"There are plenty of 'law experts' on both sides of that question."
 
hanger4 said:
"other thing of value" is overly broad.

Did you even read the links ??
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Yes I did, but unless you're the author of either of those articles then I'm not debating them, I'm debating you.

Supporting articles/videos are to support existing arguments, not to replace them.

So again, why is "other thing of value" overly broad?
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Are you saying information is not a thing of value?
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I'm saying some lawyers believe the term "other thing of value" is overly broad and would not withstand Constitution muster if challenged.

A quick analogy;

Campaign worker is told Company A (owned by opposition) employs illegal aliens. Campaign worker goes to Company A and interviews said illegal aliens. Campaign worker uses incriminating information from interview during campaign.

That's illegal if "other thing of value" is construed as information.
 
Cardinal said:
Yes I did, but unless you're the author of either of those articles then I'm not debating them, I'm debating you.

Supporting articles/videos are to support existing arguments, not to replace them.

So again, why is "other thing of value" overly broad?
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I'm not lawyer, the examples given in the links make sense to me.
 
hanger4 said:
I'm not lawyer, the examples given in the links make sense to me.
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I'm not a lawyer, yet you expect me to digest the points in the articles and debate them here. Now, in principle that's perfectly fine. Debating is all about digesting new information and arguments on a topic and and being able to express them coherently here. But I ask you to return the courtesy. I won't do all the labor while you sit there and throw reading assignments at me, and then demand I come back with a book report while you passively grade it.
 
Cardinal said:
I'm not a lawyer, yet you expect me to digest the points in the articles and debate them here. Now, in principle that's perfectly fine. Debating is all about digesting new information and arguments on a topic and and being able to express them coherently here. But I ask you to return the courtesy. I won't do all the labor while you sit there and throw reading assignments at me, and then demand I come back with a book report while you passively grade it.
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I'll not read for you either.

Overly broad legal definition of Overly broad

Overbroad - FindLaw

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overbreadth_doctrine

I believe "other thing of value" fits "overbreadth".
 
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Cardinal said:
You're not good at this.
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Naaaah, you're just somewhat of a pompous person. You tend to be condescending and arrogant.

But hey, that's cool.
 
hanger4 said:
Naaaah, you're just somewhat of a pompous person. You tend to be condescending and arrogant.


But hey, that's cool.
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There are lots of condescending and arrogant people on this forum who I respect and am happy to interact with because they form complete thoughts. If you did that I would grant you the right to be as condescending and arrogant as you liked.
 
Cardinal said:
There are lots of condescending and arrogant people on this forum who I respect and am happy to interact with because they form complete thoughts. If you did that I would grant you the right to be as condescending and arrogant as you liked.
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Oh, I form complete thoughts, you just don't like them nor the way I present them.
 
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