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Re: Russian official defends his account of Trump-Putin talks, saying U.S. accepted a

Well, Tillerson would eat your grandma for 900 billion dollars.

So anything is possible from him.

And trump might do ANYTHING to feel bigglyer.

Motivations.

And just keep throwing out unrelated BS....

Providing proof of extreme bias doesn't add much in the credibility department.
 
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I ask frequently about Trump's actual ideas when they are mentioned and sometimes I ask if they could be listed so I might be enlightened. All I usually get is "do what we sent him there to do" or " make America great ......".
I will no longer finish that line as it implies America was not already great.

It seems to me to me you're question is not really looking for an answer. It's pretty clear what the President planned to do if elected. Someone would have to be lost on a deserted island not to know.

IMO, the animosity and hateful atmosphere that has been created by the left and their MSM parnters is a direct result of the President, and those who elected him, seeking to change the course the left had set the country on. Rather than letting it be absorbed into a borderless one world region, the President and the 62 million who voted for him, wanted the US to return to it's status as a sovereign Nation among other Nations. The reaction by the left should not be unexpected, since their socialist global objective has been stopped.
 
Re: Russian official defends his account of Trump-Putin talks, saying U.S. accepted a

It seems to me to me you're question is not really looking for an answer. It's pretty clear what the President planned to do if elected. Someone would have to be lost on a deserted island not to know.

IMO, the animosity and hateful atmosphere that has been created by the left and their MSM parnters is a direct result of the President, and those who elected him, seeking to change the course the left had set the country on. Rather than letting it be absorbed into a borderless one world region, the President and the 62 million who voted for him, wanted the US to return to it's status as a sovereign Nation among other Nations. The reaction by the left should not be unexpected, since their socialist global objective has been stopped.

Borderless one world region, return to a status as a sovereign nation, are really, really, big picture concepts and, IMHO, bear little semblance to reality. I believe that there are those on the far left who would rather take this country on a very socialist path. I also believe that there are those on the right who would like to stop all immigration, bring all our troops home, (or start wars everywhere) and erect tariffs to restrict trade they think harms them. I find it unlikely that either of those can be "big picture", successful. The majority of this country will not allow us to go down either of those paths. We can tip toe into them and then we will self correct. Right now I think the far left and far right are having too much influence and are interfering with the cooperation and compromise that keeps us centered.
 
Re: Russian official defends his account of Trump-Putin talks, saying U.S. accepted a

Borderless one world region, return to a status as a sovereign nation, are really, really, big picture concepts and, IMHO, bear little semblance to reality. I believe that there are those on the far left who would rather take this country on a very socialist path. I also believe that there are those on the right who would like to stop all immigration, bring all our troops home, (or start wars everywhere) and erect tariffs to restrict trade they think harms them. I find it unlikely that either of those can be "big picture", successful. The majority of this country will not allow us to go down either of those paths. We can tip toe into them and then we will self correct. Right now I think the far left and far right are having too much influence and are interfering with the cooperation and compromise that keeps us centered.

To the bolded above, I, for the most part, agree with you.

However, I will say it is the left that is way far in the lead regarding influence and effort to bring a full socialist form of One World Government into power and control.

I would encourage you to act the part of Sherlock Holmes and look into the spider web of organizations affiliated globally with the likes of George Soros and his assortment of like minded billionaires.

If you allow yourself to follow all the twists and turns, you will see there is nothing like it in the world, and it's very dangerous to the future of the United States.
 
Re: Russian official defends his account of Trump-Putin talks, saying U.S. accepted a

Do I really need to tell you? Or are you proud of Trumps performance at G20?

1. Trumps interactions with Putin was completely embarrassing. The so called ceasefire was nothing but Trump bowing down to Putin. The US gains nothing by this ceasefire and Putin stands to gain from it.
2. Trump could have stayed in the Paris accord and stopped any payments to third world countries.
3. Trumps pleading with China to do something with North Korea is pathetic and beneath the dignity of our nation. If China hasnt done anything by now they do not plan on doing anything. It would be in China's self interest to have to have the North attack the South and bog the US down in a war, while China and Russia take advantage of our position.
4, The "America first" policy will make us an isolationist country. Isolationist countries have poor economies since they are unable to freely trade with other countries. And that is exactly what Russia and China wants us to do, so that they can take over as economical world leaders and call the shots.

5. Trump was not calling the shots at G20 he seemed to be on the sideline lost and looking for his damn limo.

Take a look at the international news cycle they are making fun of Trump. And worse the EU is worried about our turn towards authoritarianism. But yea Trump won the electoral college and Hillary lost, thats what is important to Republicans, screw all this world politics stuff. The world is not going to sit around while Trump learns what is going on; they are going to take advantage of Trump and us. But go ahead and think this is all just snowflakes whining about election results. I for one am not a liberal or even a Democrat nor did I even vote for Mrs. Bill Clinton. Trump is an embarrassment to the office that he holds based entirely on his actions thus far. And the sooner that Republicans turn on him the more seats that they will retain.

1. Trump and Putin had a meeting. Were you there?

2. Trump left the Paris Accords because it is a stupid agreement that does not treat all of the signatories equally. It punishes the US and rewards China and India. Do you know WHY he got out?

3. China has more influence over and more leverage to exert in dealings with NK than any other country. Trump asked them to work their position against this rogue nation. If it worked, that would have been a good and peaceful resolution to a thorny problem.
Are recommending war as a alternative course?

4. Every country places their interests above and before all other countries. You recommend that the US be compliant to the point of surrender noting that other countries WHO PUT THEIR INTERESTS ABOVE AND BEFORE OTHERS will continue to do so. Do you read your posts checking for logic before posting?

5. Trump was not calling the shots at the G-20. He was there to make deals.

It seems to me the leaders of the world are talking to Trump. Which world leaders do you feel are severing ties to the US? There are some that I wish would do do. The press is the press. I don't care what the press publishes or broadcasts. Our news organizations are only staging reality shows for ratings. Determining what might be true in their stories requires more work than deciphering the rationale of your average teen age son. The actual events say one thing. The story told paints an entirely different picture.
 
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Nope. Wastrel is a better word.

Might be better, but is not accurate.

wast·rel
ˈwāstrəl/Submit
noun
1.
literary
a wasteful or good-for-nothing person.
2.
archaic
a waif; a neglected child.
 
Re: Russian official defends his account of Trump-Putin talks, saying U.S. accepted a

1. Trump and Putin had a meeting. Were you there?
Yes. I sat right by you, but you wouldnt say hello.

So what does the US gain by this so called ceasefire that we cannot know anything about because we were not there?

2. Trump left the Paris Accords because it is a stupid agreement that does not treat all of the signatories equally. It punishes the US and rewards China and India. Do you know WHY he got out?
Who really knows why Trump said we pulled out. Trump has probably said 4 or 5 different reasons by now.

It was stupid for Trump to act like we pulled out of an agreement that doesnt start until 2020. And the agreement is voluntary and self determined by the individual country. But Im sure that you heard all kinds of conspiracy crap so who knows what trip you are on.
3. China has more influence over and more leverage to exert in dealings with NK than any other country. Trump asked them to work their position against this rogue nation. If it worked, that would have been a good and peaceful resolution to a thorny problem.
Are recommending war as a alternative course?
Well perhaps China is testing the US through North Korea? And asking China to do something turns out to be like asking a criminal to take care of criminals.

4. Every country places their interests above and before all other countries. You recommend that the US be compliant to the point of surrender noting that other countries WHO PUT THEIR INTERESTS ABOVE AND BEFORE OTHERS will continue to do so. Do you read your posts checking for logic before posting?
Uh WTF I didnt say any of the BS. I am not going to defend **** that you made up for me. And then you add a stupid personal attack at the end, boy you are such a great debater.

5. Trump was not calling the shots at the G-20. He was there to make deals.
What deals did Trump make at G20?

It seems to me the leaders of the world are talking to Trump. Which world leaders do you feel are severing ties to the US? There are some that I wish would do do. The press is the press. I don't care what the press publishes or broadcasts. Our news organizations are only staging reality shows for ratings. Determining what might be true in their stories requires more work than deciphering the rationale of your average teen age son. The actual events say one thing. The story told paints an entirely different picture.

[/QUOTE] SO how exactly do you get the news? I bet that you use news media (and just dont like the mews sites that disagree with your bias). ANd if you try to claim that you dont pay any attention to any news media then you either dont know a damn thing or are a liar.
 
Re: Russian official defends his account of Trump-Putin talks, saying U.S. accepted a

Yes. I sat right by you, but you wouldnt say hello.

So what does the US gain by this so called ceasefire that we cannot know anything about because we were not there?

Who really knows why Trump said we pulled out. Trump has probably said 4 or 5 different reasons by now.

It was stupid for Trump to act like we pulled out of an agreement that doesnt start until 2020. And the agreement is voluntary and self determined by the individual country. But Im sure that you heard all kinds of conspiracy crap so who knows what trip you are on.
Well perhaps China is testing the US through North Korea? And asking China to do something turns out to be like asking a criminal to take care of criminals.

Uh WTF I didnt say any of the BS. I am not going to defend **** that you made up for me. And then you add a stupid personal attack at the end, boy you are such a great debater.

What deals did Trump make at G20?



SO how exactly do you get the news? I bet that you use news media (and just dont like the mews sites that disagree with your bias). ANd if you try to claim that you dont pay any attention to any news media then you either dont know a damn thing or are a liar.

1. So, then, no.

2. So, then, you don't know.

3. How does "China testing the US through North Korea" vary in any way from the policies since the end of WW2?

4. You indicated that using an America First approach to international relations was somehow unique and isolationist. I was only pointing out that EVERY COUNTRY on the planet places their own interests first. From you post #119:

"4, The "America first" policy will make us an isolationist country. Isolationist countries have poor economies since they are unable to freely trade with other countries. And that is exactly what Russia and China wants us to do, so that they can take over as economical world leaders and call the shots."

5. We will see. I've made deals that were very lucrative that took years to finalize, but would not have happened without the first meeting. Maybe we'll find out that he gave away the store and paid more than a billion dollars in an illegal hostage-ransom scheme. We can only hope.

6. Have you not noticed that Trump has been meeting with every world leader from almost all countries in the world? My question to you is where to YOU get your news? From Arab and Muslim leaders to Putin to Ping to the Pope. Many of these are in State Visits to to DC and some are in State visits to foreign lands.

I can't think of a news organization that did not carry the stories. I'm surprised you missed it.

Seems impossible, but you managed. Good for you!
 
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1. So, then, no.

2. So, then, you don't know.

3. How does "China testing the US through North Korea" vary in any way from the policies since the end of WW2?
I asked you about a ceasefire in Syria and you then ask me about China?
4. You indicated that using an America First approach to international relations was somehow unique and isolationist. I was only pointing out that EVERY COUNTRY on the planet places their own interests first. From you post #119:

"4, The "America first" policy will make us an isolationist country. Isolationist countries have poor economies since they are unable to freely trade with other countries. And that is exactly what Russia and China wants us to do, so that they can take over as economical world leaders and call the shots."
I said that Trumps "America first" policy will make us an isolationist country. What you gathered from that statement was a bunch of BS and has nothing to do with reality. You even provide a quote yet just seem to ignore the actual content of that quote.

When a country stops being diplomatic in its international relations and in international economical trade, it creates a leadership void, that will be filled by another country that understands how things work. Trumps policy is like self imposed sanctions on the US.

5. We will see. I've made deals that were very lucrative that took years to finalize, but would not have happened without the first meeting. Maybe we'll find out that he gave away the store and paid more than a billion dollars in an illegal hostage-ransom scheme. We can only hope.
I have no idea what the hell you are talking about here.

6. Have you not noticed that Trump has been meeting with every world leader from almost all countries in the world? My question to you is where to YOU get your news? From Arab and Muslim leaders to Putin to Ping to the Pope. Many of these are in State Visits to to DC and some are in State visits to foreign lands.

I can't think of a news organization that did not carry the stories. I'm surprised you missed it.

Seems impossible, but you managed. Good for you!
I didnt miss anything, for example: You just told me that we cannot trust American news media. That would mean that you get your information from foreign sources.


Yes Trump has been meeting with other countries. But he looks like an idiot in each and every visit. The problem is that Trump gets to talk, and he always says something stupid. When a President says stupid **** it always reflects on the US. In case you had your blinders on the reaction by other countries is that Trump isnt really wanting to negotiate, he only wants to dictate. Trump thinks that he is being a strong leader but the result is that Europe has decided to leave us out of the loop until we get a real leader.
 
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I asked you about a ceasefire in Syria and you then ask me about China?
I said that Trumps "America first" policy will make us an isolationist country. What you gathered from that statement was a bunch of BS and has nothing to do with reality. You even provide a quote yet just seem to ignore the actual content of that quote.

When a country stops being diplomatic in its international relations and in international economical trade, it creates a leadership void, that will be filled by another country that understands how things work. Trumps policy is like self imposed sanctions on the US.

I have no idea what the hell you are talking about here.

I didnt miss anything, for example: You just told me that we cannot trust American news media. That would mean that you get your information from foreign sources.


Yes Trump has been meeting with other countries. But he looks like an idiot in each and every visit. The problem is that Trump gets to talk, and he always says something stupid. When a President says stupid **** it always reflects on the US. In case you had your blinders on the reaction by other countries is that Trump isnt really wanting to negotiate, he only wants to dictate. Trump thinks that he is being a strong leader but the result is that Europe has decided to leave us out of the loop until we get a real leader.

You responded to a comment about China which you put in a little balloon as point 3. Please review post #132.

A leadership void is what led to the most recent American mistake in the Middle East when Obama walked out on the SOFA.

You don't remember who gave the store away AND paid the winners of the negotiation more than a billion dollars to boot in ransom for hostages?

Too bad about Europe leaving us out of their loop.

Does this mean I will no longer see any European nameplates on cars in the US?

There are a bunch of dealerships that are going to be very upset about this.

Do you have a link to support your delusions?
 
Re: Russian official defends his account of Trump-Putin talks, saying U.S. accepted a

You responded to a comment about China which you put in a little balloon as point 3. Please review post #132.
ANd your response to that did not correspond with it.

A leadership void is what led to the most recent American mistake in the Middle East when Obama walked out on the SOFA.
From one leadership void to another is just more of the same BS.

You don't remember who gave the store away AND paid the winners of the negotiation more than a billion dollars to boot in ransom for hostages?
Nope dont know what subject you are talking about.

Too bad about Europe leaving us out of their loop.

Does this mean I will no longer see any European nameplates on cars in the US?

There are a bunch of dealerships that are going to be very upset about this.
What? Oh you thought that I meant economically. Economics is only one aspect of our international relationships. No I was talking about decision making, as in Europe will not be listening to us much while Trump is still president. Eroding US influence globally is a step towards globalization.

Do you have a link to support your delusions?
Yep bury your head in the sand while Putin ****s Trump up the ass. It just tells me that Trump supporters are complacent with Russia. I bet you think that Putin is a strong leader too.
 
Re: Russian official defends his account of Trump-Putin talks, saying U.S. accepted a

ANd your response to that did not correspond with it.

From one leadership void to another is just more of the same BS.

Nope dont know what subject you are talking about.

What? Oh you thought that I meant economically. Economics is only one aspect of our international relationships. No I was talking about decision making, as in Europe will not be listening to us much while Trump is still president. Eroding US influence globally is a step towards globalization.

Yep bury your head in the sand while Putin ****s Trump up the ass. It just tells me that Trump supporters are complacent with Russia. I bet you think that Putin is a strong leader too.

Taking your last point first, of course Putin is a strong leader. So was Stalin and so was Hitler. Are you saying Putin is not a strong leader?

And I notice you provided no link to support your delusions.

The subject you don't know about is the Iran deal that gave all of the payoffs up front and depends on trust of the Iranians.

So Europe is going to freeze the US out of the non-economic areas? NATO is a shell without the US. I hope they understand Russian. It will help with the changeover.
 
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Taking your last point first, of course Putin is a strong leader. So was Stalin and so was Hitler. Are you saying Putin is not a strong leader?
Yes I am saying that Putin is not a strong leader; he is a dictator. Dictators are not leaders, they do not lead they dictate. George Washington was a strong leader. Abraham Lincoln was a strong leader. Winston Churchill was a strong leader. Putin is a thug not a leader. And Trump is just an idiot who thought being president was going to be easy.

And I notice you provided no link to support your delusions.
Why would I need to provide links to the fact that both Obama and Trump were/are weak leaders? It should be obvious, well except Obama actually did do some leading, Trump not yet.

The subject you don't know about is the Iran deal that gave all of the payoffs up front and depends on trust of the Iranians.
You mean the Iran deal that Trump has resigned several times now? Personally I thought the deal was a stupid deal, but apparently Trump isnt enough of a leader to stop renewing it. Trump could take the initiative and broker a new deal, but that seems a bit out of his league.
So Europe is going to freeze the US out of the non-economic areas? NATO is a shell without the US. I hope they understand Russian. It will help with the changeover.
Yes NATO...the same organization that Trump said was obsolete?


“So they asked me, Wolf ... asked me about NATO, and I said two things. ‘NATO's obsolete’ — not knowing much about NATO, now I know a lot about NATO — NATO is obsolete, and I said, ‘And the reason it's obsolete is because of the fact they don't focus on terrorism.’ You know, back when they did NATO, there was no such thing as terrorism,” Trump


Trump thinks that he can strong arm NATO nations by threatening to not comply with article 5 in lieu of money. Businessman techniques dont work well in international politics. What this has done is make Europe want to take over leadership of NATO since they dont want to be speaking Russian and Trump seems to be a Russian lackey. And despite Trumps supporters denial the writing is on the wall for Trumps roll in politics. The EU is smart enough to know that they cannot depend on the US as long as Trump is in the oval office.
 
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Yes I am saying that Putin is not a strong leader; he is a dictator. Dictators are not leaders, they do not lead they dictate. George Washington was a strong leader. Abraham Lincoln was a strong leader. Winston Churchill was a strong leader. Putin is a thug not a leader. And Trump is just an idiot who thought being president was going to be easy.

Why would I need to provide links to the fact that both Obama and Trump were/are weak leaders? It should be obvious, well except Obama actually did do some leading, Trump not yet.

You mean the Iran deal that Trump has resigned several times now? Personally I thought the deal was a stupid deal, but apparently Trump isnt enough of a leader to stop renewing it. Trump could take the initiative and broker a new deal, but that seems a bit out of his league.
Yes NATO...the same organization that Trump said was obsolete?


“So they asked me, Wolf ... asked me about NATO, and I said two things. ‘NATO's obsolete’ — not knowing much about NATO, now I know a lot about NATO — NATO is obsolete, and I said, ‘And the reason it's obsolete is because of the fact they don't focus on terrorism.’ You know, back when they did NATO, there was no such thing as terrorism,” Trump


Trump thinks that he can strong arm NATO nations by threatening to not comply with article 5 in lieu of money. Businessman techniques dont work well in international politics. What this has done is make Europe want to take over leadership of NATO since they dont want to be speaking Russian and Trump seems to be a Russian lackey. And despite Trumps supporters denial the writing is on the wall for Trumps roll in politics. The EU is smart enough to know that they cannot depend on the US as long as Trump is in the oval office.

I see...

You ignore what Trump is actually doing and saying and cherry pick ideas that support your delusion.

Good for you.

Putin not a strong leader. Again, another delusion. Putin is not a nice guy. He is a good leader.

https://www.inc.com/peter-economy/the-9-traits-that-define-great-leadership.html

We already paid for the Iran deal. There is no point in not keeping now. It's a money pit kind of a mistake. It was a horrible deal made worse by the fact that every payment was made in advance and the purchased concessions are still to be delivered. Why drop the deal when it's already paid for?

Why do you think Trump is a "Russian Lackey"? There has been NOTHING to support this except the delusions that you share with your controllers.
 
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I see...

You ignore what Trump is actually doing and saying and cherry pick ideas that support your delusion.

Good for you.

Putin not a strong leader. Again, another delusion. Putin is not a nice guy. He is a good leader.

https://www.inc.com/peter-economy/the-9-traits-that-define-great-leadership.html

We already paid for the Iran deal. There is no point in not keeping now. It's a money pit kind of a mistake. It was a horrible deal made worse by the fact that every payment was made in advance and the purchased concessions are still to be delivered. Why drop the deal when it's already paid for?

Why do you think Trump is a "Russian Lackey"? There has been NOTHING to support this except the delusions that you share with your controllers.

Again dictators are not leaders, because they dictate not lead. Do you not understand the difference?

And that link... damn that makes Trump look really bad as a leader. Trump fails at all 9 of those traits.

As I said Trump could write a new deal with Iran, but that is out of his league and won't happen. Instead Trump will just keep signing us on to that crappy deal.

Trump is a Russian apologist, at every turn Trump has folded with Russian relations. Trump has faithfully stood with Russia for over 6 months. While the GOP and now the DNC has been outspoken against Russia. Trump thinks it would be great if we could be friends with Russia. We are already friends with the Russian people, it is impossible to be friends with the Russian Government, or any other dictatorship. You can normalize relations but that isnt being friendly, its is a convenience.
 
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Again dictators are not leaders, because they dictate not lead. Do you not understand the difference?

And that link... damn that makes Trump look really bad as a leader. Trump fails at all 9 of those traits.

As I said Trump could write a new deal with Iran, but that is out of his league and won't happen. Instead Trump will just keep signing us on to that crappy deal.

Trump is a Russian apologist, at every turn Trump has folded with Russian relations. Trump has faithfully stood with Russia for over 6 months. While the GOP and now the DNC has been outspoken against Russia. Trump thinks it would be great if we could be friends with Russia. We are already friends with the Russian people, it is impossible to be friends with the Russian Government, or any other dictatorship. You can normalize relations but that isnt being friendly, its is a convenience.

You hate Trump and so have no rationality when thinking of him.

His employees love him as do his family members and those with whom he deals. You cannot see this so you think you are right because there is nothing you will look at to refute your bias. IF he fails on all 9 points, THEN he would have failed as a leader. He is very successful. How do you square this circle in your delusion?

A strong leader can be and often is a dictator. That's the way it is in the real world.

Again, what could he possibly offer the Iranians in a new deal? They already got everything they wanted.

In what way(s) is/has Trump apologized for Russia. A link would be a good thing to use in your reply.
 
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You hate Trump and so have no rationality when thinking of him.
]You love Trump and so have no rationality when thinking of him.

His employees love him as do his family members and those with whom he deals. You cannot see this so you think you are right because there is nothing you will look at to refute your bias. IF he fails on all 9 points, THEN he would have failed as a leader. He is very successful. How do you square this circle in your delusion?
You know nothing about Trumps personal relationships nor his employees. What you know is either PR work or you making up crap, because you love trump.

A strong leader can be and often is a dictator. That's the way it is in the real world.
I see why you think Putin and Trump are great leaders. You do not understand that leadership involves more than telling people what to do. Try reading the link that provided. But first learn what a dictatorship is.

Again, what could he possibly offer the Iranians in a new deal? They already got everything they wanted.
Sanctions. It doesnt matter what Iran wants, it only matters that they do not have nuclear weapons. See thats the problem this isnt a business deal, it is international politics and more importantly a national security issue and a NATO nation issue. We are not offering a deal in the since of signing a contract for monetary benefit. The deal is is you stop trying to make nukes we wont wipe you off the map. A strong leader wouldnt mince words on national security. And they certainly wouldn't keep signing a treaty that goes against national security.

In
what way(s) is/has Trump apologized for Russia. A link would be a good thing to use in your reply.
Im not going to list them all since it would take more than one post.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/884012097805406208

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/862767872879325185

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/862767872879325185
 
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]You love Trump and so have no rationality when thinking of him.

You know nothing about Trumps personal relationships nor his employees. What you know is either PR work or you making up crap, because you love trump.

I see why you think Putin and Trump are great leaders. You do not understand that leadership involves more than telling people what to do. Try reading the link that provided. But first learn what a dictatorship is.

Sanctions. It doesnt matter what Iran wants, it only matters that they do not have nuclear weapons. See thats the problem this isnt a business deal, it is international politics and more importantly a national security issue and a NATO nation issue. We are not offering a deal in the since of signing a contract for monetary benefit. The deal is is you stop trying to make nukes we wont wipe you off the map. A strong leader wouldnt mince words on national security. And they certainly wouldn't keep signing a treaty that goes against national security.

In Im not going to list them all since it would take more than one post.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/884012097805406208

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/862767872879325185

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/862767872879325185

Trump had 35,000 employees. They and he all made a whole boatload of money. Success and longevity are the measures of leadership success in business. What do you use to measure Business Leadership success? I have a feeling you'll be breaking new wind if you actually answer this.

Let's see... What are good ways to see if a person is a leader?

Maybe it's LEADING a multi million dollar, international business very successfully for decades.

Maybe it's successfully LEADING the effort to gather 50 Arab and Muslim National Leaders meeting FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER to publicly oppose terror activities.

Maybe it's LEADING the effort to revamp the punitive tax and regulatory morass hindering business that has subsequently led to every major US stock index posting one record close after another since the election.

Maybe its LEADING a successful, winning a presidential campaign when everyone in the establishment said that he could not.

Out of curiosity, is your lock step allegiance to the propaganda of the establishment understood in your warped view of the world to be somehow rebellious against the establishment?

Sanctions against Iran? They were all dismissed. It's TOO LATE for calling them back again now. That ship sailed. THIS failure of leadership is also an example of leadership, but that was under a different, establishment, president.
 
Re: Russian official defends his account of Trump-Putin talks, saying U.S. accepted a

Trump had 35,000 employees. They and he all made a whole boatload of money. Success and longevity are the measures of leadership success in business. What do you use to measure Business Leadership success? I have a feeling you'll be breaking new wind if you actually answer this.

Let's see... What are good ways to see if a person is a leader?

Maybe it's LEADING a multi million dollar, international business very successfully for decades.

Maybe it's successfully LEADING the effort to gather 50 Arab and Muslim National Leaders meeting FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER to publicly oppose terror activities.

Maybe it's LEADING the effort to revamp the punitive tax and regulatory morass hindering business that has subsequently led to every major US stock index posting one record close after another since the election.

Maybe its LEADING a successful, winning a presidential campaign when everyone in the establishment said that he could not.
The results are not in yet if Trumps policies thus far have been good for the economy. So far the results seen can be attributed to the previous president. Though there is no denying that business were encouraged at first by Trump winning the election. That enthusiasm has been waning as Trump drags his feat. Wheres that tax reform? Hows that wall coming along? Deregulating things are not always a good thing.

And Trump made a fool of himself in the middle east. I wouldnt call that leadership, it was Trump being uninformed. Hell he could have just tweeted everyone over there and it would have been just as effective.

After the investigation into Trump and Russia we will talk later about how that campaign went. Right now it looks like Trump cheated. Of course Trump probably would have won the nomination anyways since the playing field was that bad. In fact both parties had such bad playing fields that it ended up with a match between Trump and Mrs. Clinton, both sucked balls.

But yea Trump is a leader, just a bad leader. Hell Trump makes the establishment look good. Who would thought that anyone could do that?

Out of curiosity, is your lock step allegiance to the propaganda of the establishment understood in your warped view of the world to be somehow rebellious against the establishment?

Sanctions against Iran? They were all dismissed. It's TOO LATE for calling them back again now. That ship sailed. THIS failure of leadership is also an example of leadership, but that was under a different, establishment, president.

I am not lock step with anyone. Thats part of being an individualist instead of partisan scum. More people need to think for themselves instead of joining collectives/political parties/religions/clubs/groups to parrot group thinking liberty destroying bias.

SO you do not want to sanction Iran, ok. Sanctions though are a step, not the end all solution. Along with sanctions a president needs to levy international leadership in order to make those sanctions do their job. The problem is that most presidents fail at that type of leadership, Obama certainly failed. Trump wont even go to the plate, he isnt even in uniform or anywhere near the field. Instead Trump is tweeting stupid comments that hurts himself as a leader, the office that he holds, and the US standing as a world leader.

Iran could be reeled in with real sanctions and a strong NATO presence. Buth that would take good leadership skills, which Trump doesnt have. Trump is used to being a dictator/monarch in his own business. In Trumps world he is the supreme leader who doesn't answer to anyone but himself. President Trump though answers to the people. A president is representative of the people, he is not a boss or a CEO, he works for us. And we can and will fire him. If Trump makes it to the next election cycle his campaign is going to be a tough one. You can bet that the Democrats will not run a campaign as bad as Hillary next time. I am hoping that we do not see a Democrat sweep. Probably will, but I would rather see a two party rule rather than a one party rule. When a single political party has too much power we end up with things like a living tax or party platforms being forced on everyone.
 
Re: Russian official defends his account of Trump-Putin talks, saying U.S. accepted a

The results are not in yet if Trumps policies thus far have been good for the economy. So far the results seen can be attributed to the previous president. Though there is no denying that business were encouraged at first by Trump winning the election. That enthusiasm has been waning as Trump drags his feat. Wheres that tax reform? Hows that wall coming along? Deregulating things are not always a good thing.

And Trump made a fool of himself in the middle east. I wouldnt call that leadership, it was Trump being uninformed. Hell he could have just tweeted everyone over there and it would have been just as effective.

After the investigation into Trump and Russia we will talk later about how that campaign went. Right now it looks like Trump cheated. Of course Trump probably would have won the nomination anyways since the playing field was that bad. In fact both parties had such bad playing fields that it ended up with a match between Trump and Mrs. Clinton, both sucked balls.

But yea Trump is a leader, just a bad leader. Hell Trump makes the establishment look good. Who would thought that anyone could do that?



I am not lock step with anyone. Thats part of being an individualist instead of partisan scum. More people need to think for themselves instead of joining collectives/political parties/religions/clubs/groups to parrot group thinking liberty destroying bias.

SO you do not want to sanction Iran, ok. Sanctions though are a step, not the end all solution. Along with sanctions a president needs to levy international leadership in order to make those sanctions do their job. The problem is that most presidents fail at that type of leadership, Obama certainly failed. Trump wont even go to the plate, he isnt even in uniform or anywhere near the field. Instead Trump is tweeting stupid comments that hurts himself as a leader, the office that he holds, and the US standing as a world leader.

Iran could be reeled in with real sanctions and a strong NATO presence. Buth that would take good leadership skills, which Trump doesnt have. Trump is used to being a dictator/monarch in his own business. In Trumps world he is the supreme leader who doesn't answer to anyone but himself. President Trump though answers to the people. A president is representative of the people, he is not a boss or a CEO, he works for us. And we can and will fire him. If Trump makes it to the next election cycle his campaign is going to be a tough one. You can bet that the Democrats will not run a campaign as bad as Hillary next time. I am hoping that we do not see a Democrat sweep. Probably will, but I would rather see a two party rule rather than a one party rule. When a single political party has too much power we end up with things like a living tax or party platforms being forced on everyone.

However you slice it, the DOW is up a bunch since election day. This rally started the day after the election. It's not hard to connect those dots.

Why do you say he made a fool of himself? He caused things to happen there and did things positively that no other president has ever done.

I googled the results of Trump's middle East Visit and I couldn't find anything. That's pretty amazing. Nothing. What could the reporters be doing? At least they are not covering the outcomes of countries being cast into ruin by coups.

You do seem to be in lock step with the hate filled lynch mob going after Trump. Evidence in not needed to hate.

The rest of the world does not have the stomach to re-impose sanctions. Releasing Iran from the previous sanctions was the end of it.
 
Re: Russian official defends his account of Trump-Putin talks, saying U.S. accepted a

However you slice it, the DOW is up a bunch since election day. This rally started the day after the election. It's not hard to connect those dots.

Why do you say he made a fool of himself? He caused things to happen there and did things positively that no other president has ever done.

I googled the results of Trump's middle East Visit and I couldn't find anything. That's pretty amazing. Nothing. What could the reporters be doing? At least they are not covering the outcomes of countries being cast into ruin by coups.

You do seem to be in lock step with the hate filled lynch mob going after Trump. Evidence in not needed to hate.

The rest of the world does not have the stomach to re-impose sanctions. Releasing Iran from the previous sanctions was the end of it.
You googled the results of Trumps middle east visit and found nothing? WTF dont you know how to internet? FFS the internet was full of all kinds of stories about that failed PR/distraction trip. Its no wonder that you dont know that trump made a fool out of himself and the US during his visit over there.

AH yes the parroted hate accusations in an attempt to make it look like I am just being emotional. That is a piss ass amateur show tactic that came straight from the Trump camp; polly want a cracker?

Look it is my and every Americans liberty to criticize the president, no matter the president. I find it alarming that Trump and his brown shirt supporters think that it is wrong to think that the president sucks balls. All of the presidents in my lifetime have sucked balls then all the sudden there is Trump and we are being told not to hate the dip****. Sorry but your whining isnt going to make me want to suck trumps dick. It isnt politically incorrect to say crap about the president, welcome to America.
 
Re: Russian official defends his account of Trump-Putin talks, saying U.S. accepted a

You googled the results of Trumps middle east visit and found nothing? WTF dont you know how to internet? FFS the internet was full of all kinds of stories about that failed PR/distraction trip. Its no wonder that you dont know that trump made a fool out of himself and the US during his visit over there.

AH yes the parroted hate accusations in an attempt to make it look like I am just being emotional. That is a piss ass amateur show tactic that came straight from the Trump camp; polly want a cracker?

Look it is my and every Americans liberty to criticize the president, no matter the president. I find it alarming that Trump and his brown shirt supporters think that it is wrong to think that the president sucks balls. All of the presidents in my lifetime have sucked balls then all the sudden there is Trump and we are being told not to hate the dip****. Sorry but your whining isnt going to make me want to suck trumps dick. It isnt politically incorrect to say crap about the president, welcome to America.

Well, you have a knack for profanity and obscene references. I'll give you that.

You sound like a hate filled pessimist. I hope you enjoy your life, such as it must be...
 
Re: Russian official defends his account of Trump-Putin talks, saying U.S. accepted a

Well, you have a knack for profanity and obscene references. I'll give you that.

You sound like a hate filled pessimist. I hope you enjoy your life, such as it must be...

What am I too politically incorrect for your liking? Or did I make a point that you couldn't refute? Criticizing the president is the patriotic thing to do. Some might say that it is required to be hyper-critical of politicians in general. Thats how we keep politicians from becoming our masters. Trump supporters seem to want us to give all that liberty up and praise Trump. Personally I will not go willingly.
 
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