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Hobby Lobby Agrees to Forfeit 5,500 Artifacts Smuggled Out of Iraq

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The packages that made their way from Israel and the United Arab Emirates to retail outlets owned by Hobby Lobby, the seller of arts and craft supplies, were clearly marked as tile samples.

But according to a civil complaint filed on Wednesday by federal prosecutors in Brooklyn, they held something far rarer and more valuable: ancient clay cuneiform tablets that had been smuggled into the United States from Iraq.
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A word to Hobby Lobby, as well as others who claim to be Christians, and wear it on their sleeves:

Thou shalt not steal.

In addition to forfeiting the stolen artifacts, they will be paying a 3 million dollar fine. And that's fine with me.

And this is one of the reasons I won't buy a used car from someone who brags about being a Christian. Most of them are dishonest as hell.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/05/...ggle-iraq.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
 
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Broad brush much? I can find examples of atheist behaving badly. Is there a point to this thread besides broadbrushing Christians?
 
Slingshot Bob said:
Broad brush much? I can find examples of atheist behaving badly. Is there a point to this thread besides broadbrushing Christians?
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Jesus says that, when you pray, you not pray like the hypocrites do, but enter a closet and pray "to thy father, which art in secret". Most of those who wear it on their sleeves might make good carnival barkers, but not real Christians. It's all a facade, as Jesus taught, and for many of them, there will be hell to pay.
 
danarhea said:
Jesus says that, when you pray, you not pray like the hypocrites do, but enter a closet and pray "to thy father, which art in secret". Most of those who wear it on their sleeves might make good carnival barkers, but not real Christians. It's all a facade, as Jesus taught.
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Ok, but how does that answer my question and why are atheist so interested in the Words of Christ?
 
danarhea said:
A word to Hobby Lobby, as well as others who claim to be Christians, and wear it on their sleeves:

Thou shalt not steal.

In addition to forfeiting the stolen artifacts, they will be paying a 3 million dollar fine. And that's fine with me.

And this is one of the reasons I won't buy a used car from someone who brags about being a Christian. Most of them are dishonest as hell.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/05/...ggle-iraq.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
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It is a war crime.. the company should be liquidated.
 
danarhea said:
A word to Hobby Lobby, as well as others who claim to be Christians, and wear it on their sleeves:

Thou shalt not steal.

In addition to forfeiting the stolen artifacts, they will be paying a 3 million dollar fine. And that's fine with me.

And this is one of the reasons I won't buy a used car from someone who brags about being a Christian. Most of them are dishonest as hell.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/05/...ggle-iraq.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
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Not agreeing with what they did.

The artifacts might be safer here than in Iraq while ISIS is around. They haven't been real good proponents of preserving these things.
 
Blue_State said:
Not agreeing with what they did.

The artifacts might be safer here than in Iraq while ISIS is around. They haven't been real good proponents of preserving these things.
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Then that's up to them, not thieves.
 
Blue_State said:
As I said. I am not agreeing with what they did. I think it is wrong.

My point is that the items are safer out of the country.
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That may be so, but are national treasures better off in the hands of foreign private collectors? A lot of national treasures from Europe were shipped to the US and stored at Fort Knox during WWII. Crates and crates of it and it was all eventually returned after the war. There's no guarantee that things like that will ever be seen again after they dissapear into the hands of private collectors. A good example of this is the French Blue, which dissapeared when the Crown Jewels were stolen during the revolution. It wasn't until over 200 years later that the stone was confirmed to have been purchased from the thieves by a private buyer and recut at some point with a piece reemerging as the Hope diamond.
 
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Blue_State said:
As I said. I am not agreeing with what they did. I think it is wrong.

My point is that the items are safer out of the country.
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But the items belong to them. I like your way of thinking, though. If I find out that you drive drunk, may I steal your car? :mrgreen:
 
Napoleon said:
That may be so, but are national treasures better off in the hands of foreign private collectors? A lot of national treasures from Europe were shipped to the US and stored at Fort Knox during WWII. Crates and crates of it and it was all eventually returned after the war. There's no guarantee that things like that will ever be seen again after they dissapear into the hands of private collectors. A good example of this is the French Blue, which dissapeared when the Crown Jewels were stolen during the revolution. It wasn't until over 200 years later that the stone was confirmed to have been purchased from the thieves by a private buyer and recut at some point with a piece reemerging as the Hope diamond.
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danarhea said:
But the items belong to them. I like your way of thinking, though. If I find out that you drive drunk, may I steal your car? :mrgreen:
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When it comes to things that could never be replaced...I would prefer they existed then not existing.
 
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