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Senate Democrat blasts 'Obamaphone' over fraudulent findings, lack of oversight

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Slingshot Bob said:
*sigh* cant figure out how to post video (yeah, I know, hee he) can someone please post obamaphone lady remix, thanks.
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First find a youtube link. (I've heard you can use video from other locations but I've never tried.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xr201FqTP4w

Then type "video" twice wrapped in bracket like this...

 
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Rogue Valley said:
Yeah. Almost as bad as the missing billions in Iraq that Bush could never account for.
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So that is the liberals excuse?

Everybody does it?
 
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Lovebug said:
Do you guys really think that making a phone available to those who need it is something evil? If you think so, perhaps you have never been in need and don't understand how vital this service is for some to dig themselves out of a hole.
Do you think that, because we call it Obamaphone, it is only Democrats who are in need?
Can you name one entitlement or program that hasn't been abused?
Do you have any compassion, or do you have nothing left in your souls than partisanship?
Listen to yourselves.
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You don't need a free smartphone to survive in the world. Millions of Americans don't have one and they manage just fine. I have no problem with poor people getting a free flip phone that costs twenty bucks. They however do not need a 100-800 dollar smartphone from the government.
 
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Lovebug said:
perhaps you have never been in need and don't understand how vital this service is for some to dig themselves out of a hole.
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Especially the dead ones. ;)
 
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Lovebug said:
Do you guys really think that making a phone available to those who need it is something evil? If you think so, perhaps you have never been in need and don't understand how vital this service is for some to dig themselves out of a hole.
Do you think that, because we call it Obamaphone, it is only Democrats who are in need?
Can you name one entitlement or program that hasn't been abused?
Do you have any compassion, or do you have nothing left in your souls than partisanship?
Listen to yourselves.
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no I think paying out billions of taxpayer dollars to people that shouldn't be getting it is evil.
36% of the people didn't qualify and a bunch of others had more than 1.

that didn't include the people that were dead that had a phone so please tell us how that is cruel
that we don't want dead people having phones.

yours is the perfect problem with appeal to emotion arguments.
 
ludin said:
Senate Democrat blasts 'Obamaphone' over fraudulent findings, complete lack of oversight' | Fox News

The GAO report found that about 10.6 million people have an Obamaphone, but 36 percent of them may not qualify, according to the Washington Times. The audit also concluded that more than 5,500 people were found to be enrolled for two phones, while the program was paying for about 6,400 phones for persons the government has listed as dead, the paper reported.

complete lack of oversight has cost taxpayers billions of dollars.
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The so-called "Obamaphone" program, also known as the Lifeline Program, was begun in 1986, under Ronald Reagan. It was expanded in 1996 under Bill Clinton, and expanded to cell phones in 2008 under the Tracphone Program, during the Bush administration.

But, of course, leave it to FOX News to lie about the program. That's what they do.
 
danarhea said:
The so-called "Obamaphone" program, also known as the Lifeline Program, was begun in 1986, under Ronald Reagan. It was expanded in 1996 under Bill Clinton, and expanded to cell phones in 2008 under the Tracphone Program, during the Bush administration.

But, of course, leave it to FOX News to lie about the program. That's what they do.
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they didn't lie at all. It has nothing to do with Reagan or Clinton.
Obama expanded the program to include cell phones.

there has been no oversight over that since 2008.
it has cost us a ton of money in waste and fraud
as the people running the program just handed them out without seeing if people qualified for it.

so the question is why are you being dishonest?

also if you realize it is democrats raising a stink about it.
 
ludin said:
that has nothing to do with the topic. why can't you respond to the topic?
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The OP is just there to use a lie to smear dems/Obama. Setting the record straight on the OP's lie is on topic.
 
reinoe said:
It was greatly expanded under Obama and it was Obama mismanaging that expansion which led to fraud.
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Did Obama manage this program himself or this is just your usual partisan crap? Come to think of it, Obama couldn't have so it is the later.
 
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reinoe said:
The free internet on the smartphones is particularly important in order to watch porn.
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Is that what you do with yours?
 
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prometeus said:
Is that what you do with yours?
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Yep along with a multitude of other benefits and features. I pay for the privilege out of my own pocket. I don't need a smart phone with Internet connection to survive, however I work full-time so that I can pay for extra privileges. The free phones that Have been handed out like candy or supposed to be for emergencies another life-saving benefits. No Internet at taxpayer expense.

But since most liberals are unemployed they don't understand what it's like to actually earn what they have. That's why they don't think twice about spending other People's Money on something frivolous.
 
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reinoe said:
Yep along with a multitude of other benefits and features.
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Good on you then.

I pay for the privilege out of my own pocket.
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I am sure that you are the only one in this universe.

But since most liberals are unemployed they don't understand what it's like to actually earn what they have.
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Please spare me your usual partisan idiocy.

That's why they don't think twice about spending other People's Money on something frivolous.
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Have you figured out yet who oversees the program?
 
azgreg said:
The program started under Reagan, so it's it's either a Reaganphone or it's attributed to the current president which makes it a Trumpphone.
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I thought it was Bush 2...or was that the cell phone portion?
 
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Lovebug said:
Do you guys really think that making a phone available to those who need it is something evil? If you think so, perhaps you have never been in need and don't understand how vital this service is for some to dig themselves out of a hole.
Do you think that, because we call it Obamaphone, it is only Democrats who are in need?
Can you name one entitlement or program that hasn't been abused?
Do you have any compassion, or do you have nothing left in your souls than partisanship?
Listen to yourselves.
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I don't have a problem with it in general. I have a problem with people who take advantage of a program meant to help people, which then turns everyone else against the program.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
OK, so it is, I never heard about it until the Obama years, anywhere you applied for any government assistance, they pushed a phone on you. Here in this little town, they were hawking smart phones in front of grocery stores and would proudly tell you" All you need is a foodstamp card".

I never saw this until the Obama years.
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"Community Out Reach" at it's finest?

Anyway, it was in fact during the Obama administration where seemingly any level of fraud was acceptable to get one of those free phones. There were a number of investigative reports, mostly ignored by the biased MSM, that came out about this.

[h=3]Phone Company 'Outraged' By Fraud, Abuse In 'Obamaphone ...[/h]denver.cbslocal.com/.../phone-company-outraged-by-fraud-abuse-in-obamaphone-pr...
Jan 27, 2015 - DENVER (CBS4) – A nationwide cellphone company distributing phones and cellphone plans in Denver as part of a massive government program says it is “outraged by the unacceptable actions” uncovered by a CBS4 undercover investigation. The response from Total Call Mobile comes ...

[h=3]The Obamaphone Program -- Fix It, Don't Expand It - National Review[/h]www.nationalreview.com/.../what-those-rising-taxes-your-phone-bill-pay-fraud-frien...
Jun 17, 2015 - Unfortunately, Lifeline, known in some circles as the “Obamaphone” program, is plagued by waste, fraud, and abuse. And ground zero for the program's current ...

[h=3]DOJ targets 'Obama phone' fraud - POLITICO[/h]www.politico.com/story/2014/04/obama-phone-scam-doj-105597
Apr 10, 2014 - The Justice Department charged a trio of men with defrauding the so-called Obamaphone program of $32 million in a scam that allegedly featured a jet, ...

[h=3]The FCC Never Collected Lifeline 'Obama Phone' Fraud Fines ...[/h]fortune.com/2015/11/23/fcc-never-collected-lifeline-fines/
Nov 23, 2015 - FCC penalties totaling $100 million against carriers accused of fraud has yet to be collected, drawing attention from lawmakers.

[h=3]A billion dollars in Obamaphone fraud? | Human Events[/h]humanevents.com/2013/02/12/a-billion-dollars-in-obamaphone-fraud/
Feb 12, 2013 - Remember the "Obamaphone Lady?" Sure you do! She was, in many ways, the exemplar of the 2012 presidential campaign: an angry welfare dependent ...

[h=3]FCC Cracks Down on Fraud By 'Obamaphone' Providers[/h]www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/FCC-fraud-Obamaphone-Lifeline/2013/11/.../538607/
Nov 25, 2013 - The Federal Communications Commission is cracking down on companies for abusing the Lifeline program, the government phone giveaway that's been ...

[h=3]'Obama phone' scam finally outed by mainstream media - Natural News[/h]www.naturalnews.com/048750_Obama_phones_mainstream_media_fraud.html
Feb 25, 2015 - (NaturalNews) You may recall that, during President Obama's second White House bid, a video depicting an African American woman who opposed GOP ...
 
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Mac77 said:
So that is the liberals excuse?

Everybody does it?
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Of course. Situational ethics, you know.
 
ludin said:
they didn't lie at all. It has nothing to do with Reagan or Clinton.
Obama expanded the program to include cell phones.

there has been no oversight over that since 2008.
it has cost us a ton of money in waste and fraud
as the people running the program just handed them out without seeing if people qualified for it.

so the question is why are you being dishonest?

also if you realize it is democrats raising a stink about it.
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No, the expansion to cell phones was in 2008. Obama was not in office then. Bush was.
 
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holbritter said:
I don't have a problem with it in general. I have a problem with people who take advantage of a program meant to help people, which then turns everyone else against the program.
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That is a problem of oversight, not a problem with the program itself. Sadly, I think that a lot of people became more worried about it since we started calling it Obamaphone.
 
ludin said:
Senate Democrat blasts 'Obamaphone' over fraudulent findings, complete lack of oversight' | Fox News

The GAO report found that about 10.6 million people have an Obamaphone, but 36 percent of them may not qualify, according to the Washington Times. The audit also concluded that more than 5,500 people were found to be enrolled for two phones, while the program was paying for about 6,400 phones for persons the government has listed as dead, the paper reported.

complete lack of oversight has cost taxpayers billions of dollars.
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Just a general comment - Fox News article linking to the Moony Times, which apparently doesn't like to link to underlying documents. Calls it Obamaphone, but the program long predated Obama. Great article!

Anyway, here's the report if anyone's interested: https://www.gao.gov/assets/690/684974.pdf

From what I can tell the problem is pretty obvious - the carriers charge customers a fee to fund the program, Feds don't really care how the money is spent, the people selling phones don't care who gets them - they just want to sell funds. So there's really no one in the loop who has an incentive to really care whether a person getting a phone qualifies or not.
 
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Lovebug said:
That is a problem of oversight, not a problem with the program itself. Sadly, I think that a lot of people became more worried about it since we started calling it Obamaphone.
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Obama's administration did everything in their power to make sure that there was no oversight.
 
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