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Dem state officials refusing to cooperate with Trump voter fraud probe

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Re: Blue State Backlash

Conservative said:
Dem state officials refusing to cooperate with Trump voter fraud probe | Fox News

No voter fraud?? What are these states hiding and if not what is their problem? Since states control their election process if there is voter fraud in the states there is no incentive for the states to cooperate
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Why does the WH need all of this information if Trump already claimed that 5 million people voted illegally?

Did he not have proof when he said that?

I'll wait for your answer with anticipation.
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

Higgins86 said:
Probably don't want to waste time and money on a bunch of bollocks
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These states have no problem taking Federal Tax dollars for elections but then have a problem supporting efforts to disprove voter fraud?
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

Slingshot Bob said:
Kinda like how the DNC declined to let the feds have a look at their server, bollocks like that?
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The whole voter fraud thing came about after Trump spat his dummy out about losing the popular vote. I mean he claimed that buses of voters from Massachusetts were being shipped in to NH to vote again. So yeh I can't really blame them for ignoring the request.
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

Hatuey said:
Why does the WH need all of this information if Trump already claimed that 5 million people voted illegally?

Did he not have proof when he said that?

I'll wait for your answer with anticipation.
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The problem is that the states run their own elections so you think the state of California is going to investigate itself?
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

Conservative said:
The problem is that the states run their own elections so you think the state of California is going to investigate itself?
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Ah, why didn't you just say that it was up to states to spend their money disproving/proving the president's accusations?

I'm glad you're finally admitting that Trump had no evidence when he said this and now expects taxpayers to fund his wild goose chases.
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

did voter fraud happen? yes they caught people.
did it happen to the millions of votes no.

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This thread reminds me of every conspiracy theorists who says: The problem is that NASA is run by the government Do you think the government would conduct an investigation on whether we went to the moon?

Yep, no effort at all to prove their own claims.

So much fail displayed on by Trump's sycophants and brought to us by none other than FOX.

:lol:
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

Higgins86 said:
The whole voter fraud thing came about after Trump spat his dummy out about losing the popular vote. I mean he claimed that buses of voters from Massachusetts were being shipped in to NH to vote again. So yeh I can't really blame them for ignoring the request.
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So ignore the verified cases, the fact that even a small amount has been uncovered warrents a serious discussion about it, it is a threat that undermines a free republic. If it is proven to be not a problem, so be it, but it needs attention.
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

ludin said:
did voter fraud happen? yes they caught people.
did it happen to the millions of votes no.

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If we know that it happened, don't you think that it behooves us to find the exact scope of how bad it was?? Without a thorough 3rd party investigation, we'll never know. California has systems in place that make it INCREDIBLY easy for illegal immigrants to vote. That alone should be enough to justify an investigation to assure that there are no illegal immigrants voting in our elections.
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

Hatuey said:
This thread reminds me of every conspiracy theorists who says: The problem is that NASA is run by the government Do you think the government would conduct an investigation on whether we went to the moon?

Yep, no effort at all to prove their own claims.

So much fail displayed on by Trump's sycophants and brought to us by none other than FOX.

:lol:
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Except for the small detail that there is rock solid evidence that there is voter fraud being committed, but what's missing is the full scope of just how voter fraud is happening. That's what these investigations are looking for. Not whether there was voter fraud, that's well established, but rather how much voter fraud there was.
 
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faithful_servant said:
Except for the small detail that there is rock solid evidence that there is voter fraud being committed
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Lmao, no - the claim wasn't that there was voter fraud of a few dozen per state (which is what we currently have). The claim was that 5,000,000 people voted illegally. Where is Trump's evidence for this claim? Why do states have to fund an investigation into a claim the president made without evidence?

Don't worry, I'll wait on you to come up with something other than pretzel logic.
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

Hatuey said:
Lmao, no - the claim wasn't that there was voter fraud of a few dozen per state (which is what we currently have). The claim was that 5,000,000 people voted illegally. Where is Trump's evidence for this claim? Why do states have to fund an investigation into a claim the president made without evidence?

Don't worry, I'll wait on you to come up with something other than pretzel logic.
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One case is to many, if we require ID for buying beer, what in the name of the great horned spoon is so bad about requiring ID to vote?
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

Hatuey said:
Lmao, no - the claim wasn't that there was voter fraud of a few dozen per state (which is what we currently have). The claim was that 5,000,000 people voted illegally. Where is Trump's evidence for this claim? Why do states have to fund an investigation into a claim the president made without evidence?

Don't worry, I'll wait on you to come up with something other than pretzel logic.
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I don't where he came up with that number. What I do know is that there is widespread voter going on and when offered a chance to investigate it so that we can start stopping it, certain states are refusing to cooperate. Do you support their efforts at obstructing an investigation into voter fraud or do you support the efforts to reduce voter fraud?? It's really one or the other - so which side do you come in on???
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

Conservative said:
Dem state officials refusing to cooperate with Trump voter fraud probe | Fox News



No voter fraud?? What are these states hiding and if not what is their problem? Since states control their election process if there is voter fraud in the states there is no incentive for the states to cooperate
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they will not hand over the extensive “voter roll data” the commission is seeking.
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The states won't be doing any actual investigating: the Commission will do it.

a tool to commit large-scale voter suppression.”
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False. The feds can't purge state voter rolls or irregularities. They can point out that someone is registered in South Dakota and California at the same time however, which is normally impossible since states don't generally share that kind of information.

He added, “California's participation would only serve to legitimize the false and already debunked claims of massive voter fraud made by the President, the Vice President, and Mr. Kobach.”
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More false information. It hasn't been disproven because there hasn't been an investigation.

A 2012 Pew study indeed found evidence of outdated voter registration forms
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The Dems are resisting for the sake of resistance. This is why it's so important to them that illegal immigrants be brought into this country. Does anyone really believe Hillary Clinton won California by 3 million votes?

There have been some documented cases of voter fraud, however, including cases Kobach has pursued in Kansas.
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Yes, there have been. Liberals are being obstructionists because they know that free and fair elections may result in them never winning another presidency.
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

faithful_servant said:
I don't where he came up with that number.
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Ummm, weird - so the president makes a claim that you admit you have no evidence for either but 50 states are supposed to spend their funds investigating on top of the money they already spend to verify votes at the polls?
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

Slingshot Bob said:
One case is to many, if we require ID for buying beer, what in the name of the great horned spoon is so bad about requiring ID to vote?
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That's nice, where is Trump's evidence that 5,000,000 people voted illegally? Why do states have to fund an investigation into proving his specific but obviously unsubstantiated claims?

Don't worry, I'll wait for the pretzel logic.
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

Hatuey said:
That's nice, where is Trump's evidence that 5,000,000 people voted illegally? Why do states have to fund an investigation into proving his specific but obviously unsubstantiated claims?

Don't worry, I'll wait for the pretzel logic.
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I said nothing about that # ONE case is to many. Attempting to minimize a problem does not make it go away. Without a full and complete investigation, the extent of the problem, will remain unknown. I am not Sahra Huckabee, my job is not to defend Trumps claims.

If we can afford to throw capital at the Russia thing, we can afford to investigate voter fraud
 
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Re: Blue State Backlash

Conservative said:
Dem state officials refusing to cooperate with Trump voter fraud probe | Fox News



No voter fraud?? What are these states hiding and if not what is their problem? Since states control their election process if there is voter fraud in the states there is no incentive for the states to cooperate
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Keep in mind its Terry McCauliffe who is refusing to cooperate. McCauliffe who is long time friend of the Clintons. A guy who has been mired in scandalous activities for decades and honestly should have been in jail multiple times.
He did the exact same thing that Martha Stewart did with insider trading only he made a lot more money than Martha did. He also try to buy off Ralph Nader to get him to drop out of 2004 election. He admitted trying to get Nader to drop but denied offering money and the investigation never went farther. Mccauliffe is as crooked as they come.
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

faithful_servant said:
If we know that it happened, don't you think that it behooves us to find the exact scope of how bad it was?? Without a thorough 3rd party investigation, we'll never know. California has systems in place that make it INCREDIBLY easy for illegal immigrants to vote. That alone should be enough to justify an investigation to assure that there are no illegal immigrants voting in our elections.
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actually I am sick and tired of it.
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

SocialD said:
Keep in mind its Terry McCauliffe who is refusing to cooperate. McCauliffe who is long time friend of the Clintons. A guy who has been mired in scandalous activities for decades and honestly should have been in jail multiple times.
He did the exact same thing that Martha Stewart did with insider trading only he made a lot more money than Martha did. He also try to buy off Ralph Nader to get him to drop out of 2004 election. He admitted trying to get Nader to drop but denied offering money and the investigation never went farther. Mccauliffe is as crooked as they come.
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Minnesota, New York, Kentucky, and Connecticut are refusing to cooperate.

Iowa and North Carolina are only sharing information that is publicly available.
 
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