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Dem state officials refusing to cooperate with Trump voter fraud probe

Re: Blue State Backlash

Higgins86 said:
Probably don't want to waste time and money on a bunch of bollocks
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Not like that Russia probe...right?
 
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Hatuey said:
This admission that the president had no evidence to say this in the first place is pretty funny.
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The objective is to investigate voter fraud in general, not limited to presidential election, but House and Senate as well.
 
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Athanasius68 said:
The objective is to investigate voter fraud in general, not limited to presidential election, but House and Senate as well.
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And why does the commission need to know the last four digits of people's social security numbers?

That is not public information
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

Hatuey said:
Ummm, weird - so the president makes a claim that you admit you have no evidence for either but 50 states are supposed to spend their funds investigating on top of the money they already spend to verify votes at the polls?
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No the states should open up their voter rolls and let the Federal Govt. do the investigating to match the voter rolls with govt. data base. you expect the states that run the elections to investigate themselves? My are you naive
 
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If the executive wants Blue State cooperation then perhaps the federal investigation should widen its mandate from just voter fraud to include systematic voter suppression and shameless gerrymandering of electoral districts. That would be an investigation that would be very eye-opening for most Americans. And while you're at it, why not have a look at the candidate nomination process for the two main parties, because if the nomination processes of both major parties is controlled by powerful, pan-partisan interests then voting is irrelevant as the nominees are hand-picked. If Alexis de Tocqueville could see democracy in America today, I believe he would despair for your grand republic and would have written "Oligarchy in America" as a sequel.

Bonne chances mes voisines Américaines, vous êtes tellement F-ed! (Good luck my American neighbours, you are truly F-ed!)

Salut tous le monde.
Méchantroddy.
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

Hatuey said:
I didn't ask you whether your name was Sarah. I know your name is Bob and you, Bob, can't seem to explain why we should all spend money proving a president's unsubstantiated claims.
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For the same reason we are investigating the Russian angle, to protect the integrity of elections in our country, thus far there is more evidence of voter fraud than the Russian angle, yet you seem perfectly OK with that.
 
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SocialD said:
Keep in mind its Terry McCauliffe who is refusing to cooperate. McCauliffe who is long time friend of the Clintons. A guy who has been mired in scandalous activities for decades and honestly should have been in jail multiple times.
He did the exact same thing that Martha Stewart did with insider trading only he made a lot more money than Martha did. He also try to buy off Ralph Nader to get him to drop out of 2004 election. He admitted trying to get Nader to drop but denied offering money and the investigation never went farther. Mccauliffe is as crooked as they come.
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Not only that but voter fraud has occurred and is documented to have occurred in Va. Simple to prove, no wonder he wants to stonewall the process
 
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Conservative said:
No the states should open up their voter rolls and let the Federal Govt. do the investigating to match the voter rolls with govt. data base. you expect the states that run the elections to investigate themselves? My are you naive
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Conservative, why didn't Trump have any evidence of 5,000,000 people voting illegally before making the claim?

Don't worry, your stunted responses allow me to laugh at just how much doubling down you've been doing behind the president.
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

Conservative said:
Not only that but voter fraud has occurred and is documented to have occurred in Va. Simple to prove, no wonder he wants to stonewall the process
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It's not just blue states who are not going to participate in Kris Kobachs vendetta against voteing rights.

The states ofVirginia, California, New York, Kentucky, Minnesota, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, Washington, and Wisconsin will not be sharing private information with Kobach and will only release the the information that is currently available to the public. No private information
 
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Slingshot Bob said:
For the same reason we are investigating the Russian angle
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What Russian angle? Proven communications existing between Trump campaign figures and Russian officials? Proven claims of Michael Flynn acting as a undeclared foreign agent? Proven claims of Jared Kushner creating backdoor communication channels between Russian officials and the Trump administration?
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

Hatuey said:
Isn't it funny that the people most likely to wear tin foil hats worrying that the government is trying to get information and control them are now 100% behind the government getting information on them?

:lol:
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I find it interesting that the states have no problem taking money from the federal govt. but now have a problem supporting an investigation into voter fraud which is the real threat to our democratic process.

By the way how about San Francisco giving 199,000 of taxpayer money to an illegal? Isn't liberalism great? Wonder who that illegal voted for?
 
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Conservative said:
I find it interesting that the states have no problem taking money from the federal govt. but now have a problem supporting an investigation into voter fraud which is the real threat to our democratic process.
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An investigation into a claim that the president made without evidence and now wants to have an investigation on to find evidence for an unsubstantiated claim he made?

Yep, definitely sounds like all of the moon landing folks. Guys! The moon landing never happened! You have to spend money to investigate my claims!

Coockoo!
 
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Unitedwestand13 said:
And why does the commission need to know the last four digits of people's social security numbers?

That is not public information
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If the state uses it publically for voting, then yes, the commission is asking. If not, then they are not asking.
 
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Evilroddy said:
If the executive wants Blue State cooperation then perhaps the federal investigation should widen its mandate from just voter fraud to include systematic voter suppression and shameless gerrymandering of electoral districts. That would be an investigation that would be very eye-opening for most Americans. And while you're at it, why not have a look at the candidate nomination process for the two main parties, because if the nomination processes of both major parties is controlled by powerful, pan-partisan interests then voting is irrelevant as the nominees are hand-picked. If Alexis de Tocqueville could see democracy in America today, I believe he would despair for your grand republic and would have written "Oligarchy in America" as a sequel.

Bonne chances mes voisines Américaines, vous êtes tellement F-ed! (Good luck my American neighbours, you are truly F-ed!)

Salut tous le monde.
Méchantroddy.
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That is part of the commission's mandate.
 
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Athanasius68 said:
If the state uses it publically for voting, then yes, the commission is asking. If not, then they are not asking.
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Ummm, states don't use any part of your SSN publicly for anything.

Are you in the US?

:lol:
 
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Slingshot Bob said:
I already told you my name is not Sahra Huckabee and that is not my job, nice straw man. My argument is one case is to many.
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How many cases of legitimate voters denied a vote is too many? That is where this will go first. And I still want to know. What will he do with the data? Who will have access to the data? Who is the watchdog of the commission? Congress?
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

Hatuey said:
Conservative, why didn't Trump have any evidence of 5,000,000 people voting illegally before making the claim?

Don't worry, your stunted responses allow me to laugh at just how much doubling down you've been doing behind the president.
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LOL, so why don't we find out for sure that Trump was wrong? What are you afraid of, that he was right?
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

Hatuey said:
Ummm, states don't use any part of your SSN publicly for anything.

Are you in the US?

:lol:
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Then yhere is no issue.
 
Re: Blue State Backlash

Unitedwestand13 said:
It's not just blue states who are not going to participate in Kris Kobachs vendetta against voteing rights.

The states ofVirginia, California, New York, Kentucky, Minnesota, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, Utah, Vermont, Washington, and Wisconsin will not be sharing private information with Kobach and will only release the the information that is currently available to the public. No private information
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Right, so the Russian investigation where not one vote was changed is much more important to you than finding out about any voter fraud in the states where illegal votes were cast? what as surprise coming from you
 
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Conservative said:
LOL, so why don't we find out for sure that Trump was wrong? What are you afraid of, that he was right?
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Yep, sounds like a moon landing denier. Guys, prove that I'm wrong! I don't have to prove that I'm right! I just make the claim and make everyone else investigate it for me!

Coockoo.

:lol:
 
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trblmkr said:
How many cases of legitimate voters denied a vote is too many? That is where this will go first. And I still want to know. What will he do with the data? Who will have access to the data? Who is the watchdog of the commission? Congress?
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Who was denied a vote? Are you talking about the simple requirement to produce ID like you need to purchase alcohol or cash a check or any # of other daily functions?
 
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Conservative said:
Right, so the Russian investigation where not one vote was changed is much more important to you than finding out about any voter fraud in the states where illegal votes were cast? what as surprise coming from you
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Michael Flynn was an undeclared foreign agent working with Russian officials to bring down their sanctions.

If this were the 1800s, he would have been hung for treason.
 
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Hatuey said:
Michael Flynn was an undeclared foreign agent working with Russian officials to bring down their sanctions.

If this were the 1800s, he would have been hung for treason.
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Great, hang him, now how did that change the election results? Have the sanctions been lifted? where is that Trump blackmail I keep hearing about?
 
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