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Despite tweet, McCaskill attended reception at Russian ambassador's home

OpportunityCost said:
Considering Mueller's friendship with lifelong democrat hack inside the FBI, McCabe, they are probably thinking they can score political points with Democrats... you know, the usual.
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Nope, there is no way the extremely talented people joining Mueller are doing so merely to play politics. People like that have better things to do than undermine lifelong careers with political gamesmanship. You can delude yourself all you want, but it doesn't make any sense. It's just a particularly weak form of No True Scotsman.

- All serious people know there is nothing to this Trump/Russian stuff.
- But many serious people are joining the investigative team?!
- They aren't serious people! They are hacks, and we know this because they're on the Mueller team!

Besides, the point is our concerns are obviously NOT out of thin air. You can't follow the news, and acknowledge what the FBI and now Mueller have been doing for perhaps more than a year, and believe the Trump/Russia stuff is baseless. We don't know yet what will be found, and it may not lead directly to DJT, but it seems a good bet the prosecutors on the team won't go home without doing their job about something serious.
 
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JasperL said:
Nope, there is no way the extremely talented people joining Mueller are doing so merely to play politics. People like that have better things to do than undermine lifelong careers with political gamesmanship. You can delude yourself all you want, but it doesn't make any sense. It's just a particularly weak form of No True Scotsman.

- All serious people know there is nothing to this Trump/Russian stuff.
- But many serious people are joining the investigative team?!
- They aren't serious people! They are hacks, and we know this because they're on the Mueller team!

Besides, the point is our concerns are obviously NOT out of thin air. You can't follow the news, and acknowledge what the FBI and now Mueller have been doing for perhaps more than a year, and believe the Trump/Russia stuff is baseless. We don't know yet what will be found, and it may not lead directly to DJT, but it seems a good bet the prosecutors on the team won't go home without doing their job about something serious.
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Actually you can, if you don't follow the news as closely as you follow you the news conferences, testimony, and statements.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Actually you can, if you don't follow the news as closely as you follow you the news conferences, testimony, and statements.
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LOL, we'll see I guess. I'd bet a dollar that the high powered prosecutors joining the team are on board to bring high powered charges against people and take them to court. Otherwise, why waste their time and ruin their credibility?
 
JasperL said:
LOL, we'll see I guess. I'd bet a dollar that the high powered prosecutors joining the team are on board to bring high powered charges against people and take them to court. Otherwise, why waste their time and ruin their credibility?
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Sorry to disillusion you, there aren't "high powered charges". Just charging someone with a crime. How silly.
 
JamesBY said:
Trump would have deliberately lied.

McCaskill most likely forgot.
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*rolling eyes*


That's as ridiculous as our side saying,

:Trump masterfully navigated the issue.

McCaskill was probably too dumb to remember.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Sorry to disillusion you, there aren't "high powered charges". Just charging someone with a crime. How silly.
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They're aren't any charges....yet.

But you're probably right. These guys are leaving senior positions to prosecute a few technical violations of campaign finance laws. Good career move.
 
JasperL said:
They're aren't any charges....yet.

But you're probably right. These guys are leaving senior positions to prosecute a few technical violations of campaign finance laws. Good career move.
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You are engaging in hyperbole to puff up the importance of the story, the same as I am downplaying. The difference is, I am honest about it.
 
dobieg said:
*rolling eyes*


That's as ridiculous as our side saying,

:Trump masterfully navigated the issue.

McCaskill was probably too dumb to remember.
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:) Quit being silly, dobieg (and that moniker really dates you)). We are talking about who would deliberately lie, and it most likely would be Trump (or Sessions) that McCaskill.
 
JasperL said:
Whatever - you're not going to get by without criticism with, "I believe CNN when they're slamming Dems, but when they slam Republicans, FAKE NEWS!"
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Because not all news is fake, but they have been guilty of it lately; something that should never happen.
 
American said:
Because not all news is fake, but they have been guilty of it lately; something that should never happen.
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I don't agree. What should never happen is them making up stories, and there is no evidence they ever have. Correctly quoting someone who is wrong will happen pretty regularly. As I said on another thread, if CNN accurately reported Trump as an anonymous source, they'd be reporting FAKE NEWS all the time. That's not CNN's problem, except to the extent they could and did not verify what Trump said, and reported it as fact when they could prove it's a lie.
 
Thoreau72 said:
Yes I do Maggie, and I also understand that sometimes humans actually do forget things.

So, was her action a malicious lie meant to deceive, or simply a misstatement about some ordinary social event that she had forgotten?
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I choose C: undermines her russian collusion narrative.
 
JasperL said:
I don't agree. What should never happen is them making up stories, and there is no evidence they ever have. Correctly quoting someone who is wrong will happen pretty regularly. As I said on another thread, if CNN accurately reported Trump as an anonymous source, they'd be reporting FAKE NEWS all the time. That's not CNN's problem, except to the extent they could and did not verify what Trump said, and reported it as fact when they could prove it's a lie.
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An Answer For Chris Cillizza: Five Fake Stori | The Daily Caller
 
American said:
An Answer For Chris Cillizza: Five Fake Stori | The Daily Caller
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The very first example shows how thin the charge is. CNN have panelists/hosts who make sometimes false or wrong claims. It happens. How many times did Fox have on air people pushing birther stories? The Tweet they quote was 5 days after the shooting, well before it was "proved" that early accounts of him having his hands up were false.

Every example is similar, and if that's the best the Daily Caller can do, it's evidence in praise of CNN's professional standards.
 
JasperL said:
The very first example shows how thin the charge is. CNN have panelists/hosts who make sometimes false or wrong claims. It happens. How many times did Fox have on air people pushing birther stories? The Tweet they quote was 5 days after the shooting, well before it was "proved" that early accounts of him having his hands up were false.

Every example is similar, and if that's the best the Daily Caller can do, it's evidence in praise of CNN's professional standards.
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Those were real stories. Birther stories were real dude. Seriously? Fake news is about **** that never happened.
 
American said:
Those were real stories. Birther stories were real dude. Seriously? Fake news is about **** that never happened.
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You're just using partisan standards to condemn CNN while excusing similar stuff appearing on Fox. Just for example, the birther nonsense was based on lies, **** that never happened, from start to finish, FAKE NEWS. There was never a shred of evidence he was born anywhere but Hawaii, and reams of evidence he was in fact born in Hawaii, including his birth certificates, plural.
 
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