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Obama should have done more to counter Russia's election meddling, top Dem says

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Obama should have done more to counter Russia's election meddling, top Dem says | Fox News
Rep. Adam Schiff, the top-ranking Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, said Sunday the Obama administration should have done more to counter Russia’s meddling in the U.S. election.
"I think the administration needed to call out Russia earlier, needed to act to deter and punish Russia earlier, and that was a very serious mistake," Schiff, of California, said in a televised interview with CNN.

Schiff added that President Barack Obama may have been worried that doing more against Russia would have looked like he was “trying to tip the scales for Hillary Clinton” and did not want to give in to the notion that the election was “rigged” against Donald Trump, according to The Hill.

About time someone remembered the person that should have been most aware of this!
 
Didn't the Obama admin slap sanctions on Russia because of election meddling? The same sanctions Flynn allegedly promised to get rid of, which started this whole "collusion" mess in the first place?

What was he supposed to do, bomb Moscow?
 
Didn't the Obama admin slap sanctions on Russia because of election meddling? The same sanctions Flynn allegedly promised to get rid of, which started this whole "collusion" mess in the first place?

What was he supposed to do, bomb Moscow?

I guess Schiff isn't impressed.
 
Didn't the Obama admin slap sanctions on Russia because of election meddling? The same sanctions Flynn allegedly promised to get rid of, which started this whole "collusion" mess in the first place?

What was he supposed to do, bomb Moscow?

Obama announced sanctions and ejected 35 Russian "diplomats" on December 29 due to alleged tampering. These apparently were not the same sanctions Flynn was involved. Perhaps Schiff would have preferred Obama do something sooner than Dec 29, you know, like before the election or at least closer to the election.
 
Didn't the Obama admin slap sanctions on Russia because of election meddling? The same sanctions Flynn allegedly promised to get rid of, which started this whole "collusion" mess in the first place?

What was he supposed to do, bomb Moscow?

That was in December 2016.
 
Obama should have done more to counter Russia's election meddling, top Dem says | Fox News


About time someone remembered the person that should have been most aware of this!

After the election the Dems blew this issue way out of proportion in a attempt to delegitimize Trumps Presidency and agenda and possibly get him impeached.

I think its very possible that Russian snooping and meddling has been happening for years, possibly even decades, I bet other Nations do it to , and I wouldnt be surprised if we meddle in other Nations elections also

Is possible Obama's administration was keeping tabs on the Russian the whole time and that his reaction in December was purely Politically motivated.

The Dems and the media created a monster narrative after the election in a attempt to undermine and impeach Trump, and then word leaked out that Obama knew about it in August.....Lol
 
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People keeps saying (as if it has been proven a fact) that Flynn discussed removing the sanctions with Kislyev prior to Trumps' election. This "story" is based on a WaPo article on 02/09/17 alleging former Obama officials knew from telephone recordings that Flynn did discuss this.

National security adviser Michael Flynn privately discussed U.S. sanctions against Russia with that country’s ambassador to the United States during the month before President Trump took office, contrary to public assertions by Trump officials, current and former U.S. officials said.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...c2cf509efe5_story.html?utm_term=.3ff864143091

Yet to my knowledge this has never been proven. Nothing after that story was published has come to light showing this was actually discussed. I have been searching and have found no subsequent reports from the investigation confirming this allegation.

Yet people accept it as a given fact. :confused:

IMO, people should wait until an investigation proves something a fact before ascribing it as such.

Which seems to be the general problem.

Fact: There was some Russian activity which colored the election.

The facts also show that the DNC documents "leaked" showed collusion to defeat Bernie's campaign; collusion with CNN to give Hilly debate questions in advance; and several other acts of malfeasance.

The facts also show that Obama's Attorney-General met with Bill Clinton, and shortly thereafter attempted to "modify" the FBI investigation (according to Mr. Comey's testimony).

The facts also show that President Obama's Administration knew of the alleged interference long before "sanctions" were imposed in December 2016...AFTER the election results.

The facts are that people were apprised of possible Russian interference prior to voting in November, and this may have affected Democrats but did not affect those of us who voted for Trump.

Hell, I was pointing out back then it did not matter where the info came from, as long as it was proven true. (Something most of the "leaks" after Trump's election have failed to do).

The facts are there has been no real evidence of any actual collusion between Trump or member's of his campaign with this Russian interference. NOPE! :no:

Just a lot of smoke, sound and fury signifying nothing of substance.

Something the #ResistTrump crowd refuse to keep in mind. :coffeepap:
 
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Of course, we knew that Obama was using his position as President in many ways to interfere in the outcome of the election. This might be especially bad, but his whole approach was just that from inception to end..

Can you name some of the many ways he "interfered" with the outcome? It's completely normal for a sitting POTUS to work to elect the person in his party running to replace him, so I assume you mean something other than the completely normal. Please explain.

It bizarre to accuse him of that in the same thread where he's accused of not doing ENOUGH to stop the Russians interfering on behalf of TRUMP. The two accusations run to cross purposes, unless you think Obama's goal was to elect Trump.....
 
Can you name some of the many ways he "interfered" with the outcome? It's completely normal for a sitting POTUS to work to elect the person in his party running to replace him, so I assume you mean something other than the completely normal. Please explain.

It bizarre to accuse him of that in the same thread where he's accused of not doing ENOUGH to stop the Russians interfering on behalf of TRUMP. The two accusations run to cross purposes, unless you think Obama's goal was to elect Trump.....
As the article in post #15 stated, Obama went out-of-his-way to avoid taking actions that would unduly aid HRC.

If it was me instead of Obama, I would have had the FBI waiting below the podium to arrest Michael Flynn after he gave his, "lock her up" speech.
 
Obama announced sanctions and ejected 35 Russian "diplomats" on December 29 due to alleged tampering. These apparently were not the same sanctions Flynn was involved. Perhaps Schiff would have preferred Obama do something sooner than Dec 29, you know, like before the election or at least closer to the election.

Yes, and if Obama had made a public stink about Russia trying to help Trump before the election, we all know that the GOP would still be whining about Obama trying to do an October surprise to help Hillary out. Damned if he did, damned if he didn't.

I am fascinated about how quickly the narrative has changed for the right wing, though. Now it's a given Russia attempted to interfere, but it's Obama's fault for not doing enough to stop it. Just a couple weeks ago, no one on the right wing accepted that Russia did interfere.
 
Obama should have done more to counter Russia's election meddling, top Dem says | Fox News


About time someone remembered the person that should have been most aware of this!

Horse Puckey! Obama didn't have a problem with Russian meddling and neither does Trump. It is a fabricated political issue. That's why Obama did not investigate. Of course, now the Dems must back up their bogus allegations with bluster and balserash. In the end, nothing. It is the USA that meddles in foreign elections in a big way, not Russia.
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Horse Puckey! Obama didn't have a problem with Russian meddling and neither does Trump. It is a fabricated political issue. That's why Obama did not investigate. Of course, now the Dems must back up their bogus allegations with bluster and balserash. In the end, nothing. It is the USA that meddles in foreign elections in a big way, not Russia.

Right, Russians are the good guys.
 
Yes, and if Obama had made a public stink about Russia trying to help Trump before the election, we all know that the GOP would still be whining about Obama trying to do an October surprise to help Hillary out. Damned if he did, damned if he didn't.

I am fascinated about how quickly the narrative has changed for the right wing, though. Now it's a given Russia attempted to interfere, but it's Obama's fault for not doing enough to stop it. Just a couple weeks ago, no one on the right wing accepted that Russia did interfere.

I would have expected Obama to do his job regardless of whether he was damned by either side. Sorry you don't feel the same.

This article is about a Democrat congressman, not about your right wing bogeymen of which I am not one.
 
No, because of Hillary, Trump won.

I'm not sure if being picked as the "Lesser of Evils" is actually fully "Winning".

If Trump had been solely selected on his positive traits, planned policies, and abilities, then he could claim having "Fully Won" the 2016 election.

But as things are, Trump was selected by many, if not a plurality of Americans, as being the "Lesser of Evils", which might let him take the office of POTUS, but I'd state that doesn't fully quality as a "Win".

We settled for Trump, as the best of bad options.

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Yes, and if Obama had made a public stink about Russia trying to help Trump before the election, we all know that the GOP would still be whining about Obama trying to do an October surprise to help Hillary out. Damned if he did, damned if he didn't.

I am fascinated about how quickly the narrative has changed for the right wing, though. Now it's a given Russia attempted to interfere, but it's Obama's fault for not doing enough to stop it. Just a couple weeks ago, no one on the right wing accepted that Russia did interfere.

First, you're conflating a few things. Very few people denied that Russia did the hacking and tried to meddle. What there is NO evidence for is that anything they did had any actual effect on the election. You're trying to meld both of those concepts, which are not the same thing, into a single thought.

If the hacking and Russian malfeasance were known last year, and Obama chose to do little or nothing, that can't be anyone BUT Obama's fault. He was President. He was in charge.
 
Didn't the Obama admin slap sanctions on Russia because of election meddling?
Yeah, over a month AFTER the election was over. Hardly an effortt to counter anything.
 
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