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Republican Karen Handel Wins Georgia House Special Election

PeteEU said:
Boy the chest thumping is going to come back and bite the GOP in the ass.

This district has since the 1980s been deeeeep red. Usual winning margin is by 20+ percentage points, and that is if the Dems even bother putting up a candidate. To "only" win the special election by 4% points should be a massive warning shot over the bow of the GOP.

But no.. all they think of is the win, not the composition of the win. This is the long game...
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No biggie to the dems, right? They only spent $23 million to lose. Another one down the tubes that was supposed to be this big message. We got the message. The only thing the country hates more than Republicans and Trump is Democrats.
 
PeteEU said:
Boy the chest thumping is going to come back and bite the GOP in the ass.

This district has since the 1980s been deeeeep red. Usual winning margin is by 20+ percentage points, and that is if the Dems even bother putting up a candidate. To "only" win the special election by 4% points should be a massive warning shot over the bow of the GOP.

But no.. all they think of is the win, not the composition of the win. This is the long game...
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Trumo won Georgia by only 5 precentage points & only won the 6th district by 1 percentage point. The demographics
of this bedroom district to Atlanta has changed drastically with Spanish & Asian transplants entering the district in
surprising numbers. Keeping that in mind Ossoff was given an excellent chance to win this election for that very reason.
FiveThirtyEight: Nate Silver's Political Calculus. a favorite pollster of the Democrats stated Ossoff had a 70% chance to win 5
days before the election.

In the initial election in April the only question was if Ossoff could win over 50% of the vote and thus become the winner of
the house seat, or whether there would be a runoff in June between the top two votegetters, Rachelle Maddow at MSNBC
was giddy and gleeful in Aprils primary as the early tallies suggested Ossoff was over 50% and there would be no runoff.
The final tallies the top two out of 18 candidates were:

CANDIDATE PARTY VOTES PCT. 50%+ TO WIN
Jon Ossoff Dem 92,390 48.1%
Karen Handel Rep. 37,993 19.8

Ossoff was after this shellacking in the initial vote the heavy favorite to win it all, that's why CNN pundits
on election night looked so devastated when they realized it wasn't going there way.
 
Anthony60 said:
No biggie to the dems, right? They only spent $23 million to lose. Another one down the tubes that was supposed to be this big message. We got the message. The only thing the country hates more than Republicans and Trump is Democrats.
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The candidate raised 17 Million from his supporters, the Democratic Party received 6 from The DNC

The race was run in a safe Red District and he lost by 4% .. oh yea ... that a Biggie. That's like a Republican coming to Chicago and losing by 4%. ;)
 
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...eorgia-6th-most-expensive-house-election.html

This is what the donation picture looked like. The flaw in trying to assess the impact of this race as compared to 2018, is this race was the spotlight...the show...the only game in town. Every leftist and liberal in the country that carries political weight (or thinks they do) engaged in this 1 podunk race in Georgia. And they still lost. Was it closer than during a normal election cycle? Sure. But was this anything at all 'normal'? Nope...not even close.

This is just a short list of Hollywood types that showed up...Rosie O’Donnell, Jane Fonda, Jessica Lange, Sean Daniel, Connie Britton, Sam Waterston, Kyra Sedgwick, Samuel L Jackson, Alyssa Milano...the race was a regular topic on all the nightly news and all the talk/entertainment shows. Democrat leaders were also boots on the ground.

And he still lost.

2018 will be an extraordinary election year, but the election cycle will be back to 'normal'. Its highly unlikely that Ossoff or whoever is running for the democrats in 2018 will get this kind of a push again.
 
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MTAtech said:
The guy lived in the district all his life and now only lives a few miles away in an adjoining district because that's where his girlfriend is going to med school.

There is also no legal requirement to live actually in the district. Finally, the only reason to bring it up is to score talking points.
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It looks horrible and the excuse is pretty weak to boot. And in a world where optics matter he should have taken that into consideration and selected a place to live inside the district.
 
trouble13 said:
It just goes to show repubs are not above making shallow attacks for political points as well.

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Dems are the masters of shallow attacks.
 
Cigar said:
The candidate raised 17 Million from his supporters, the Democratic Party received 6 from The DNC

The race was run in a safe Red District and he lost by 4% .. oh yea ... that a Biggie. That's like a Republican coming to Chicago and losing by 4%. ;)
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I'm glad to see that you are happy with the loss. 14% of his money came from Georgia, so it looks like they thought they could pour in enough money to win. Looks like they still haven't realized how disliked they are. Hope that continues.
 
Anthony60 said:
I'm glad to see that you are happy with the loss. 14% of his money came from Georgia, so it looks like they thought they could pour in enough money to win. Looks like they still haven't realized how disliked they are. Hope that continues.
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I couldn't give a crap about Georgia politics
 
reinoe said:
Dems are the masters of shallow attacks.
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No argument from me on that but the right isnt immune from it either. The guy is a native of that district and moved out of district to be closer to the school his gf attends. Technically yes he is a carpetbagger but only in a technical sense. Thays his home area and if he wants to represent that area i see nothing wrong with that.

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Harbo said:
I agree that Trump wouldn't get re-election (assuming he gets through this term and actually seeks it). I think the Democrats would be wise to remember, however, Coolidge's example in 1924 following the Teapot Dome. If I were Mike Pence or a Republican strategist, I would be studying it intently.
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I don't disagree.

Then again, Pence is tied to Trump for the rest of his life. The GOP's best bet at winning re-election is nominating someone else entirely. Rubio would be a good choice.
 
fmw said:
Was your crystal ball that clear last fall?
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As I said, the circumstances surrounding the 2016 election are different than 2020.
 
Anthony60 said:
Other than the Democrats being absolutely horrible, you should have no problem then. Just like last time.
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So your best bet at a historically unpopular president getting re-elected is that the Democrats are horrible? Don't sound too optimistic there, eh? LOL.
 
slick said:
Think whatever your heart desires but all the sports books, who are in the business of making money, say if
you bet Trump won't be president on that date you can bet 100 to win 110, that means you position is a slight
underdog. Here is another proposition from the sports books:

2020 US Presidential Election
Sun 11/10 71 Donald Trump wins Presidential Election +180
8:00AM 72 Field wins Presidential Election -260

Sun 11/10 73 Mike Pence wins Presidential Election +800
8:00AM 74 Field wins Presidential Election -1700

Sun 11/10 75 E.Warren wins Presidential Election +825
8:00AM 76 Field wins Presidential Election -1725

Sun 11/10 77 M.Obama wins Presidential Election +1700
8:00AM 78 Field wins Presidential Election -5100

Sun 11/10 79 Joe Biden wins Presidential Election +1800
8:00AM 80 Field wins Presidential Election -5400

Sun 11/10 81 B.Sanders wins Presidential Election +1700
8:00AM 82 Field wins Presidential Election -5100

When the two most likely democratic candidates for the democrats are
Elizabeth Warren & Michelle Obama the democratic are really in bad shape.

Sun 11/10 83 Cory Booker wins Presidential Election +2500
8:00AM 84 Field wins Presidential Election -7500

Sun 11/10 85 M.Zuckerberg wins Presidential Election +3300
8:00AM 86 Field wins Presidential Election -12100
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you go ahead with the sports books then, LOL.
 
Puigb said:
As I said, the circumstances surrounding the 2016 election are different than 2020.
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Very clear indeed since you can predict the circumstances 3+ years from now.
 
We need to see more of these Republican special election victories. Given the reaction of the CNN commentators to the Democratic defeat they might actually have a coronary next time.
 
Puigb said:
So your best bet at a historically unpopular president getting re-elected is that the Democrats are horrible? Don't sound too optimistic there, eh? LOL.
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Nope, but your best bet is a party that is horrible and has nothing to offer. Where are you going to get a decent candidate?


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Fenton said:
Republican Karen Handel wins Georgia House special election

Republican Karen Handel wins Georgia House special election - CNNPolitics.com

" Atlanta (CNN)Republican Karen Handel defeated Democrat Jon Ossoff in a high-stakes special election for a Georgia House seat on Tuesday, denying Democrats their first major victory of the Donald Trump era.

Handel bested Ossoff by 5 percentage points in the most expensive House race in history.
It was a much closer margin than the 20-plus point wins typically posted by former Rep. Tom Price -- whose departure to become Trump's health and human services secretary created the vacancy.
But it wasn't what Democrats who pumped $23 million into Ossoff's campaign so desperately craved: A win."
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But a much better margin than Trump's 2% win in 2016, and Ossoff got less votes than Rodney Stookesbury, Tom Price's opponent in 2016
 
PeteEU said:
Boy the chest thumping is going to come back and bite the GOP in the ass.

This district has since the 1980s been deeeeep red. Usual winning margin is by 20+ percentage points, and that is if the Dems even bother putting up a candidate. To "only" win the special election by 4% points should be a massive warning shot over the bow of the GOP.

But no.. all they think of is the win, not the composition of the win. This is the long game...
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A win is a win is a win. So far since Nov 8 the special election score is D's - 0. R's - 5.

The question remains. If the D's were sure they couldn't win, why toss 35 million down the drain? The answer is they thought they could win. Even with a candidate so wrong he couldn't vote for himself. Sounds like the Presidential election all over again. Another billion + wasted.
 
PeteEU said:
Boy the chest thumping is going to come back and bite the GOP in the ass.

This district has since the 1980s been deeeeep red. Usual winning margin is by 20+ percentage points, and that is if the Dems even bother putting up a candidate. To "only" win the special election by 4% points should be a massive warning shot over the bow of the GOP.

But no.. all they think of is the win, not the composition of the win. This is the long game...
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But you aren't being realistic about the results of this election. This one election is the only game in town and it had the full investment of the entire democrat apparatus. It has had broad media support. There was 30 million in out of state dollars as well as celebs and all the top democrat party elite. And still they lost. Where will all that support be in 2018?


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PeteEU said:
Boy the chest thumping is going to come back and bite the GOP in the ass.

This district has since the 1980s been deeeeep red. Usual winning margin is by 20+ percentage points, and that is if the Dems even bother putting up a candidate. To "only" win the special election by 4% points should be a massive warning shot over the bow of the GOP.

But no.. all they think of is the win, not the composition of the win. This is the long game...
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Handel won the district by more than Trump did. Dems missed their chance.
 
fmw said:
Very clear indeed since you can predict the circumstances 3+ years from now.
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As of now, Trump has no shot at winning re-election.

That could change, but it's highly unlikely.
 
Anthony60 said:
Nope, but your best bet is a party that is horrible and has nothing to offer. Where are you going to get a decent candidate?


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lol.

You people voted for Donald Trump, and you are wondering where the Dem's decent candidates are?
 
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