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17-year-old Muslim girl assaulted and killed after leaving Virginia mosque

phattonez said:
Naturalization Act of 1790.



Far from it. I think that Christianity is a superior religion.
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Guess you aren't counting the slaves those "Christians" imported to do the grunt work.
 
reinoe said:
The only people attacking the American citizen are the liberals. It's the right-wingers who are pointing out that illegal immigrants need to be out of this country and it's the liberals who prefer to defend illegal immigrants who commit crimes.
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So, you plan on continuing with your ridiculous troll-bait comments instead of actually addressing the issue. Seem to me that right wing hacks like yourself prefer to play partisan politics and shift blame rather than actually care about this girl who was killed.
 
phattonez said:
So you mean 44% don't want to adopt American customs and ways of life? And you don't see a problem with that?
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No, that's not what the research said. Every time you post you demonstrate that you have no clue as to how research works or how to read it. What the research said is that only 20% want to be distinct from larger society. This is not so unusual for newer immigrants. So, again, you failed.

And besides that, what does adopting American customs actually mean to them? Are they going to intermarry and become Christian?
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Well, what it means to YOU is completely irrelevant.
 
phattonez said:
How much trust do you think that there is in a community that doesn't even share the same holidays?
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If they follow the same laws, what holidays they celebrate are meaningless.
 
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phattonez said:
We shouldn't be letting in Muslims. We're just asking for a culture clash like Europe is experiencing.
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You already had muslims - Nation of Islam for one. Or do you just want to kick out anyone not white under cover of your "culture clash" argument?
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
So, you plan on continuing with your ridiculous troll-bait comments instead of actually addressing the issue. Seem to me that right wing hacks like yourself prefer to play partisan politics and shift blame rather than actually care about this girl who was killed.
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The issue is that an illegal immigrant committed a murder. My comments are on point. Liberals have done everything in their power to prevent and limit deportations while maximizing incentives for illegal immigrants to be here: even when they have convictions for serious crimes. My comments address the topic at hand: an illegal immigrant who murdered an American citizen. This kind if behavior is enabled by liberals.
 
reinoe said:
The issue is that an illegal immigrant committed a murder. My comments are on point. Liberals have done everything in their power to prevent and limit deportations while maximizing incentives for illegal immigrants to be here: even when they have convictions for serious crimes. My comments address the topic at hand: an illegal immigrant who murdered an American citizen. This kind if behavior is enabled by liberals.
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Actually, that's not what you have been talking about. But I am very glad that my aggressive confrontation has forced you to actually discuss part of the topic. Perhaps I need to do that with you more often. Now, one thing you probably need to stop doing is using really dumb absolutist statements.
 
phattonez said:
We shouldn't be letting in Muslims. We're just asking for a culture clash like Europe is experiencing.
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Her last meal was at McDonalds.
 
reinoe said:
The issue is that an illegal immigrant committed a murder. My comments are on point. Liberals have done everything in their power to prevent and limit deportations while maximizing incentives for illegal immigrants to be here: even when they have convictions for serious crimes. My comments address the topic at hand: an illegal immigrant who murdered an American citizen. This kind if behavior is enabled by liberals.
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Is it only liberals who hire illegal immigrants to work for their businesses? Because jobs are the main incentive that bring them here.
 
danarhea said:
At least the punk who did this is now in custody. He didn't rape or rob her. He just kidnapped her, then beat her to death with a metal baseball bat. May he never see the light of day again. And, although I am against the death penalty, you won't see me complain if that is what he gets.

Van strikes crowd near London mosques in what police are calling 'terrorist attack' - Baltimore Sun
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I just realized that the girl/woman who was killed attended High School about 1/2 mile from a house we just sold last Dec. That wasn't close to where she was killed, but still, that makes it personal to me. We apparently lived in the same neighborhood. We always considered it very safe. But I'm a straight white male.

Beaten to death with a baseball bat??? That's psychotic behavior. VA DOES have the death penalty.
 
devildavid said:
Is it only liberals who hire illegal immigrants to work for their businesses? Because jobs are the main incentive that bring them here.
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They don't need jobs because liberals are doing everything in their power to provide cradle to grave welfare benefits. They shouldn't be getting such benefits, but liberal obstructionism, obfuscation, and turning a blind eye to our laws makes it happen. In fact it's easier for illegal immigrants to get benefits than American citizens in California.

As to the point of employment: yes Repubs turn a blind eye to that. However as horrible as that is at least Repubs turn a blind eye to illegal immigrants working. Liberals give them an incentive to not work and that's ****ing disgusting.
 
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reinoe said:
They don't need jobs because liberals are doing everything in their power to provide cradle to grave welfare benefits. They shouldn't be getting such benefits, but liberal obstructionism, obfuscation, and turning a blind eye to our laws makes it happen. In fact it's easier for illegal immigrants to get benefits than American citizens in California.

As to the point of employment: yes Repubs turn a blind eye to that. However as horrible as that is at least Repubs turn a blind eye to illegal immigrants working. Liberals give them an incentive to not work and that's ****ing disgusting.
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Your claim has no evidence. Illegal immigrants come here to work and earn money, not for welfare benefits. Here is a more nuanced view:

Tom DeLay says most illegal immigrants draw 'welfare benefits,' send children to public schools | PolitiFact Texas
 
Jredbaron96 said:
The Communists didn't win because they only struck a chord with the workers, and Stalin's influence made them unappealing. The Germans in general were not fond of communism, which is why every communist uprising in Germany failed. This has not the cultural issue you're trying to push.
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Huh? The Communists won a pretty decent percentage of the electorate.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
You can be a Muslim and be white. Race does not determine faith. I should not have to explain this to you.
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How many white Muslims were there in the 18th century?
 
devildavid said:
I did not say white men did not labor. I just pointed out that it wasn't just white men who built this country. They had substantial help from non-whites.
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Actually whites did pretty much all of the building in this country if you really examine it.
 
devildavid said:
Those are not all unique to us. And actually, we root for winners and outlaws moreso than underdogs.
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No, each individual thing is not unique, but our culture overall is unique.
 
devildavid said:
Naturalization Act of 1790 said nothing specific about Muslims or religion in general.

naturalization laws 1790-1795

That you prefer Christianity does not change the fact it is as much a foreign religion in some countries as you consider Islam here.
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As I've asked others, how many white Muslims do you think there were in the 18th century?
 
devildavid said:
And there is no good or compelling reason to change them. Those who desire to naturalize and are willing to go through the rigorous process are not a detriment to this country.
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If that's true then why aren't we deporting the ones who are collecting welfare, who absolutely are a detriment to this country?
 
devildavid said:
I fully trust Jewish Americans. They have made great, positive contributions to this country. They are true Americans.
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That's a trust that I don't share, given how much Jews, specifically Israelis, meddle in our elections.
 
devildavid said:
Give an example of social trust and signs of its deterioration.
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