Rosenstein warns Americans to 'exercise caution' about anonymous reports

Paperview said:

I can prove you posted a lie.

(and then ridiculously asserted the NYT's would "scrub their archives" -to cover it up -- LOL)

If you're so sure you're right, why don't you provide evidence of Trump's lawyer's assertion you dutifully carried here.

You on?

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You are free to post what you wish...Doesn't mean I have to believe it...

j-mac said:

You are free to post what you wish...Doesn't mean I have to believe it...

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You made the claim. This is a lie: "The false story being leaked in this from the "investigative body", are these supposed memo's that were given to some Columbia professor that Comey says he leaked out after the Trump tweet about tapes, yet the story appeared days before when he said he leaked them....Neat trick..." j-mac

There's a reason you wont back it up. You either know it's a lie, or you're too lazy to care and stand behind what you say.

Paperview said:

You made the claim. This is a lie: "The false story being leaked in this from the "investigative body", are these supposed memo's that were given to some Columbia professor that Comey says he leaked out after the Trump tweet about tapes, yet the story appeared days before when he said he leaked them....Neat trick..." j-mac

There's a reason you wont back it up. You either know it's a lie, or you're too lazy to care and stand behind what you say.

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I am aware of what I posted...I don't need you to re-post it....And I stand by it....Too bad that irk's you so....

j-mac said:

I am aware of what I posted...I don't need you to re-post it....And I stand by it....Too bad that irk's you so....

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lol. Just saying something doesn't make it so. What you presented is a lie, of which you have no intention of proving what you say is true. Evidence. Back up. Not reposting.

You know you can't do so, so you just do a pretend dance and waltz around in alternate realityville.

Keep doing that and people will begin to discount any credibility you have.

To some of us: cred matters.

j-mac said:

Hey there roughdraft....Sorry for the delay in reply, but I have been insanely busy. Anyway, let's get to it....




Wait a minute...."Pushed you to?" A guy tweets a couple of stupid things to bait you, and you go after jailing him? Really? How about when Obama said 'Republican's will have to get to the back of the bus?', called us enemies?, Made every disagreement in policy about race? You don't think that was "Pushing"????

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Hold up. I will respond to the rest but I want you to understand this before we continue. And I want you to fully acknowledge this before going any further.

1. I don't think Trump should go to jail unless a crime is found. As of right now I don't think a crime has been committed, but I don't know everything. There are ALOT of funny details and very odd happen stances that have led alot of people to question things. Like I said before, I want a thorough but completely fair investigation. I think it's extremely possible that one of his associates worked with Russia by cooperating with them on when to leak Clinton/DNC emails or to put out fake news etc. Plenty of people, even plenty of republicans agree with me. You need to honestly sit back and evaluate this as non-partisan as you can. Lay out the facts and see if you would want an investigation if this were a democrat. I think if you were being honest you'd admit you'd want an investigation. If a democratic president had fired his campaign manager because he had close ties to russia and supposedly never disclosed that he was still receiving payments from foreign governments while running Trumps campaign (for free), Russia ran a very extensive disinformation campaign as well as hacked and leaked documents from the other side during the campaign in order to get him elected, he hired a national security advisor after numerous warnings and while knowing he was under FBI investigation for numerous reasons, didn't fire him after being alerted to the fact that he lied about communications with Russia, only firing him after that became public, has numerous associates in his campaign that had numerous undisclosed contacts with Russia, fired the FBI director and then admitted he fired him because of the Russia investigation, bragged to the Russians about firing him, had expressed very little interest in the details surrounding Russia trying to get in to our election systems, brought the lead committee member from the house to the white house, gave him info with a narrative on how to twist the info, and then sent him out to get the info out without telling anyone that it came from the whitehouse etc. You can't honestly tell me if a democratic president had done all that you wouldn't want an actual investigation to see what the hell happened. If this is all just coincidence, or if there is something going on. I'm not saying send him to jail, I'm not saying that he's not currently the president. I'm just saying that we need an actual investigation.

2. You can't pretend like this is even close to "well he made a stupid remark, investigate!" I clearly said Trump "pushed us" because he won't allow any investigation to simply run it's course. He continues making people recuse themselves through his thoughtless actions or he fires them for investigating him.

j-mac said:

"Today, Mr. Comey admitted that he leaked to friends his purported memos of these privileged conversations, one of which he testified was classified," he continued. "He also testified that immediately after he was terminated he authorized his friends to leak the contents of these memos to the press in order to 'prompt the appointment of a special counsel.' Although Mr. Comey testified he only leaked the memos in response to a tweet, the public record reveals that the New York Times was quoting from these memos the day before the referenced tweet, which belies Mr. Comey's excuse for this unauthorized disclosure of privileged information and appears to entirely retaliatory."

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The bolded above is indeed erroneous. What the NYT quoted on 11 May was scuttlebutt from Comey associates, not any information from Comey memos.

THE TIMELINE:

May 9: Comey is fired.

May 11: The New York Times publishes a story about a January dinner Trump and Comey had, based on interviews with Comey’s associates. Comey had told the associates about the dinner....

• A direct quote from the NYT article of 11 May 2017 that you are referring to above:

• Mr. Comey described details of his refusal to pledge his loyalty to Mr. Trump to several people close to him on the condition that they not discus it publicly while he was FBI Director. But now that Mr. Comey has been fired, they felt free to discuss it on the condition of anonymity.

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• There is no mention whatsoever in the NYT 11 May article that any information was obtained via a Comey memo. The article states quite clearly that the information was provided by Comey associates.

May 12: Trump tweets, "James Comey better hope that there are no ‘tapes’ of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!"

May 15: Comey wakes up realizing the relevance of a potential tape, according to his testimony.

May 16: The New York Times publishes a story about the existence of Comey’s memos. The New York Times said it had not seen the memos, but included information from one of them about an Oval Office meeting in February, as explained and quoted by a Comey associate. (Columbia University law professor Daniel Richman)

j-mac said:

That may well be true, but we have seen in this Presidency, stories made up out of whole cloth designed to damage the administration...We see people whom are supposed to be journalists unmask their total bias, and disdain for anyone whom shows the slightest bit of support for a republican administration...And we have news outlets like MSNBC shaping, disseminating, and driving the narrative. Hint, they aren't supposed to do that....

Now, things are going to get real for the administration for sure, but, what happens if? What happens if there is nothing here? What happens if we find out that all of this was a concerted campaign to coup the government by democrats? What should happen then? Anything?

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I too believe at this point that there is nothing there... But who needs to make up stories about Trump?... Plus, he himself is the maker upper of all time... Go on line and find the list... He retired the trophy a long time ago.

Erod said:

1. I can't stand Trump.

2. It's dyed, not died.

3. It should be hyphenated, as in "dyed-in-the-wool trumpette".

You're not very good at this.

And you can poll anything to be whatever you want it to be. If we held the election all over today, Hillary would still only win 16 states, and Trump would be president. These clownish, politically-motivated investigations have changed nobody's mind.

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YOU were the one to proudly promulgate the narcissistic, misogynist so-called president, lying liar, l'll donny's outlier 50% approval poll. That's a true trumpette. I put it in perspective with his consistent 39% approval polls.


Ahh, a grammar nazi. Grammar nazi's come out when they have no rebuttal after having their asses handed to them.


Before I retired I had someone that handled that for me, so no I didn't pay much attention to that mundane chore.

American said:

You're making grand leaps without a shred of evidence.

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Having been in the military I think our men and women are more competent than to not be able to hit a runway with a missle (especially 59 times) unless they were trying NOT to.


Why do you hate our military?

Rogue Valley said:

The bolded above is indeed erroneous. What the NYT quoted on 11 May was scuttlebutt from Comey associates, not any information from Comey memos.

THE TIMELINE:

May 9: Comey is fired.

May 11: The New York Times publishes a story about a January dinner Trump and Comey had, based on interviews with Comey’s associates. Comey had told the associates about the dinner....

• A direct quote from the NYT article of 11 May 2017 that you are referring to above:

• There is no mention whatsoever in the NYT 11 May article that any information was obtained via a Comey memo. The article states quite clearly that the information was provided by Comey associates.

May 12: Trump tweets, "James Comey better hope that there are no ‘tapes’ of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!"

May 15: Comey wakes up realizing the relevance of a potential tape, according to his testimony.

May 16: The New York Times publishes a story about the existence of Comey’s memos. The New York Times said it had not seen the memos, but included information from one of them about an Oval Office meeting in February, as explained and quoted by a Comey associate. (Columbia University law professor Daniel Richman)

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I suspect j-mac, after being fed the parrot-this lines from Tramplandiaville, once challenged, did a little precursory check to see if he could save face, and realized what you post (and all the other fact checkers show) is correct, and indeed, his parrot-this narrative was again found to be a huge steaming pile of BS from the Trump team.

So he went into Nuh uh, finger in ear mode and did a "don't care" whistle. Cause a lot of these Trumpers really don't care if they are fed BS daily.

What is so surprising is how little regard they have for their history of credibility.

I've always valued that above all else.