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Virginia Shooting Suspect Was Distraught Over Trump’s Election, Brother Says

The Senate voted 97-2 yesterday that Russia hacked the election. I didn't see any of them carrying guns.

Which had ZERO INFLUENCE Dan. Russia didn't steal your vote.

The violent act is on the man who perpetrated the act. Any other explanation of out of dishonest peoples' douchebag of tricks.

I agree that he deserves the majority of blame, but there's no way that guy would have snapped without the media's attempt to rile up the country.
 
The New York Times seems perplexed at how a 'normal' guy like Hogkinson could become radicalized in the last 8 months, since the election. I've found the answer for them; their own 24 hour flood of negativity about Trump.

Within the past 24 hours alone, the New York Times has uploaded 10 articles online, each with a decidedly anti Trump attack theme;

https://query.nytimes.com/search/si...=SearchSubmit&pgtype=Homepage#/Trump/24hours/

Hogkinson, a man who may have already had personal issues brewing, was driven over the edge into violence by the media's hysterical daily rantings about the President.

Trump's life has been chronicled for decades...including, but not limited to the good, bad, and the ugly. His life's journeys have been inundated with controversy, a lot of legal conflicts, and unethical conduct. Trump's life story reads like a novel about a very dishonest, corrupt individual who who sell his grandma for a buck, steal her back, and sells her again. And that's the "good" part.

One doesn't have to invest much time researching his life to learn about Trump's true character.
 
Which had ZERO INFLUENCE Dan. Russia didn't steal your vote.



I agree that he deserves the majority of blame, but there's no way that guy would have snapped without the media's attempt to rile up the country.

Sorry, but the Senate says Russia manipulated the election. They had access to the classified information. You didn't. But keep parroting your line if it makes you feel better.
 
Which had ZERO INFLUENCE Dan. Russia didn't steal your vote.



I agree that he deserves the majority of blame, but there's no way that guy would have snapped without the media's attempt to rile up the country.

You do understand your "media" is now under the control of 6 major multinational corporations, right?
 
Yea, Liberals are dumb...... Wait, the Senate is controlled by the Republicans, and they all just took a giant dump all over your hate parade. :mrgreen:

Don't be a partisan hack, bro!
 
Which had ZERO INFLUENCE Dan. Russia didn't steal your vote.



I agree that he deserves the majority of blame, but there's no way that guy would have snapped without the media's attempt to rile up the country.

It's pretty humorous to see so many Cons having so much trouble figuring out how the actions of Congress could send a mentally ill partisan over the edge.
It's a failure of imagination on your part, as a matter of fact.

Why don't you try a thought experiment that might clear up your confusion:
Think about how someone who is seriously ill might feel about the GOP-led Congress' untiring efforts to take away their health insurance.
 
Sorry, but the Senate says Russia manipulated the election. They had access to the classified information. You didn't. But keep parroting your line if it makes you feel better.

How does someone manipulate an election without changing the vote tallies?
 
Speaking of twitter, a bunch of liberals have claimed that being blocked by the president is a violation of their 1st amendment rights. I guess it's not enough to send their hate-mail in the multitude of other channels available to them.

How utterly ridiculous! Cry me a river, they got blocked.
 
Oh, come on, Chomsky--you can do better than this. The President is always going to be in the news.



Oh? Would that be a guarantee that news outlets would report it? From the Shorenstein Center's analysis, which states that 80 percent of Trump coverage during his first hundred days was negative and i that only Fox News "came close to giving Trump positive coverage overall,[sic] however, there was variation in the tone of Fox’s coverage depending on the topic":

•Trump has received unsparing coverage for most weeks of his presidency, without a single major topic where Trump’s coverage, on balance, was more positive than negative, setting a new standard for unfavorable press coverage of a president.
https://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-donald-trumps-first-100-days/
In the bolded I was speaking of actions primarily in a negative manner. He feeds this with his remarks and actions. I wouldn't doubt if he revels in it.

And to your latter point, Trump is embroiled in problems - many self inflicted. He is surrounded by negative issues, and he is arrogant and flamboyant. Do you remember him having a rally and calling the men and women of the media "the enemy"? Quite honestly, he gets what he deserves. I have no pity for him or his treatment by the media.
 
In the bolded I was speaking of actions primarily in a negative manner. He feeds this with his remarks and actions. I wouldn't doubt if he revels in it.

And to your latter point, Trump is embroiled in problems - many self inflicted. He is surrounded by negative issues, and he is arrogant and flamboyant. Do you remember him having a rally and calling the men and women of the media "the enemy"? Quite honestly, he gets what he deserves. I have no pity for him or his treatment by the media.

Trump is his own worst enemy, no doubt. But I'm disappointed if you don't care whether journalists report fairly irrespective of what or who the story is.
 
At some point in our recent past, politics stopped being about policies that have an economic cost that 'we the people' are being asked to support. Instead, politics started becoming deeply personal about who the lawmakers are as people, and their hidden and devious motivations behind their politics. Someone always has a religious agenda, or a communist agenda, or a racial agenda, or a big business agenda - its never just because these politicians want to do things the way they think things should be done.

The trust in everyone and everything is at the thinnest in my lifetime. People like this crazy man have broken. Maybe this was his way to step in and bring a sense that these major problems are being solved.

If policy is discussed, its more and more rooted in emotion and personal attacks (name calling of racist / sexist / inhuman / greedy). Why can't we just discuss what the law is, if we want to change it, and what is required to change it? The man in charge of enforcing our laws is just dismissed as a racist just for trying to do the job he has. Costs are never discussed anymore. When we run a trillion dollar deficit, economists can start claiming "deficits don't matter" - and we get lulled into thinking them un-important. But somebody always has to pay - and then start the class warfare arguments (rich vs. poor) - nobody wants to pay for the programs with their own money.

Even when policy costs are discussed, they are based on economic models rooted in assumptions based on similar but different programs. These models are never discussed as models, they are considered as factual by policy proponents and fake news by policy detractors. They are never just seen as what they they are: predictions based on the way a law is intended to work.

We no longer discuss the purpose and purview of government, and when we have an opportunity to disagree about the role government should have in our lives, we again get deeply personal about who you are based on what your politics are instead of agreeing that there is more than 1 way to achieve a political outcome (for example, is health insurance always required to ensure health care is available to a person?).

I will fully agree that there are causes for our loss in our ability to talk to each other with respect or look at different ways of organizing our government:
  • 24 hour news cycles featuring rantings of opinion commentators
  • Journalist Provacateurs (infowars)
  • Politician Provacateurs (our President for example)
  • Opinionated friends and family
  • Bias in our education systems


And then add that on to our governments inability to confront our own problems and enforce the rule of law. When you have government agencies run amok - you have a problem
  • Selling guns to fund coups in foreign countries (Iran Contra) with no accountability
  • Running guns to mexican drug cartels (Fast & Furuious) with nobody being punished
  • Laundering drug money in American banks (Wachovia) with nobody being punished
  • Bank failures through fraud where taxpayers fund massive bailouts and nobody is held accountable
  • Cheating during presidential election debates (Donna Brazil) with no accountability
  • Destroying evidence or mishandling classified information (Clinton emails) with no accountability
  • Leaking classified information to the press with no accountability (Clinton, Comey, Russians, Bush2 & Valerie Plame)
  • The health care costs in america - where there is outright fraud and grift in the system with no accountability
 
You do understand your "media" is now under the control of 6 major multinational corporations, right?

Yup. Let's see how 'diverse' they are, OK? (There's only 5, not 6)

1. Comcast
Owner- Brian Roberts, son of 'Ralph Roberts was born on March 13, 1920 in New York City. His parents Robert Max Roberts (also known as Bob Roberts) and Sara Wahl were both Russian-Jewish immigrants.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_J._Roberts

2. Disney-
CEO Bob Iger 'Iger was born to a Jewish family in New York City.'

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Iger

3. 21st Century Fox

Owner Rupert Murdoch 'He is of English, Irish, and Scottish ancestry. '
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch

4. Time Warner

Founder Steven Jay Rechnitz 'Steven Jay Rechnitz on April 5, 1927 in Brooklyn, New York, the son of Jewish immigrants.'
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Ross_(businessman)

5. National Amusements

Owner Sumner Murray Rothstein 'Sumner was born to a Jewish family'.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumner_Redstone

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Huh....a minority with only 6% of the population owns and controls 80% of the American Media!

But STEREOTYPES ARE BAD, m'kay?
 
Yup. Let's see how 'diverse' they are, OK? (There's only 5, not 6)

1. Comcast
Owner- Brian Roberts, son of 'Ralph Roberts was born on March 13, 1920 in New York City. His parents Robert Max Roberts (also known as Bob Roberts) and Sara Wahl were both Russian-Jewish immigrants.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_J._Roberts

2. Disney-
CEO Bob Iger 'Iger was born to a Jewish family in New York City.'

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Iger

3. 21st Century Fox

Owner Rupert Murdoch 'He is of English, Irish, and Scottish ancestry. '
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch

4. Time Warner

Founder Steven Jay Rechnitz 'Steven Jay Rechnitz on April 5, 1927 in Brooklyn, New York, the son of Jewish immigrants.'
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Ross_(businessman)

5. National Amusements

Owner Sumner Murray Rothstein 'Sumner was born to a Jewish family'.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumner_Redstone

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Huh....a minority with only 6% of the population owns and controls 80% of the American Media!

But STEREOTYPES ARE BAD, m'kay?

Thanks for making my point.
 
I've done it now. I've mentioned that of which we do not speak.

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Don't be a partisan hack, bro!

Are 51 of 52 GOP senators being partisan hacks, including your two senators?

Good to see a check on trump on foreign relations from the GOP senate.

Post #62 shows a link to grown-up GOP behavior !
 
Trump is his own worst enemy, no doubt. But I'm disappointed if you don't care whether journalists report fairly irrespective of what or who the story is.
I didn't say I didn't care.

Much -overwhelming most - of what is reported by the mainstream is found to be true.

Look at the way the media caught Trump and Pence in lies and deception with the Flynn incident, forcing them to constantly back-peddle until they finally relinquished him. That was a 100% the product of excellent work by the Fourth Estate. Otherwise, Flynn would still be in office with Trump and his administration hiding the facts from the citizens. Now, he's rightly removed and hopefully facing charges.

If the media was reporting garbage, I'd agree with you. Despite their occasional histrionics and error, orgs like CNN, WaPo, NBC, have all been breaking a lot of legit stories. Even others such as Reuters and WSJ are breaking them, too!

You and I would know very little without the work they and their sources are doing. And without that public transparency, the GOP would not be acting at all. And I continue to believe they will only act to the degree the media leaks forces them. That's how we got Mueller. Otherwise we'd have nothing but yes-men eager to pass their agenda, ignoring any impropriety.
 
Are 51 of 52 GOP senators being partisan hacks, including your two senators?

Good to see a check on trump on foreign relations from the GOP senate.

Post #62 shows a link to grown-up GOP behavior !

One of my senators got lit up by a Liberal, Trump hatinist jackoff.
 
Trump's life has been chronicled for decades...including, but not limited to the good, bad, and the ugly. His life's journeys have been inundated with controversy, a lot of legal conflicts, and unethical conduct. Trump's life story reads like a novel about a very dishonest, corrupt individual who who sell his grandma for a buck, steal her back, and sells her again. And that's the "good" part.

One doesn't have to invest much time researching his life to learn about Trump's true character.

What should my response be to that? Nominate candidates in your party of higher character next time?

We all knew that Trump and Clinton were not angels. Your candidate made Trump look good by comparison, so your bad I guess.
 
One of my senators got lit up by a Liberal, Trump hatinist jackoff.

I would advise all GOPartisans to trust Sen. Corker and 50 other GOP Senators on Russia sanctions.

Did you see where Senators Paul and Sanders were the only two NO votes? Do you stand with them on this issue ?
 
Sorry, but the Senate says Russia manipulated the election. They had access to the classified information. You didn't. But keep parroting your line if it makes you feel better.

Since you didn't answer my last question, I'll leave you with the words of your dear leader;



In early September when I saw president Putin in China, I felt that the most effective way to ensure that that didn’t happen was to talk to him directly and tell him to cut it out and there were going to be serious consequences if he didn’t,” Obama explained. “And in fact we did not see further tampering of the election process.”

“The Russians can’t change us or significantly weaken us,” the president said. “They are a smaller country, they are a weaker country, their economy doesn’t produce anything that anybody wants to buy except oil and gas and arms.

Obama Says Russia Didn?t Undermine Our Democracy ? We Did

I'll give Obama credit here, he's one of the few in the D party who didn't contribute to yesterday's shooting.
 
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