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Reports: 'Multiple shooting' at congressional baseball game practice field [W:73:226]

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bubbabgone said:
Now Now. Don't jump to conclusions.
I believe the official position is that this was a one-off violent attack that had nothing whatsoever to do with the man's political ideology or the extreme language by him or others that typically has accompanied it.
That's their story and they're sticking to it.
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fair enough
 
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bubbabgone said:
Well, the other end doesn't prevent people from speaking by throwing bike racks through windows and generally rioting , the other end hasn't shot a Congressman (or anyone that I can think of), the other end doesn't make a statement with a severed head, the other end doesn't say they want to blow up the White House or stage a play that assassinates a President, the other end doesn't stage rallies calling for dead cops, the other end doesn't say the other Party will kill kids and old people.
You need to face it, the balance thatyou suggest exists ... doesn't.
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What are you exactly asking for? All people on the left should gather up their riot gear and stop ANTIFA from vandalizing?

You are are waaaaay out of touch if you don't think individuals with radicalized beliefs from the right have not killed because of their twisted beliefs. I fail to see a distinction whether it is a congressman, a congregation or black man on the phone with his mom.

How about this, just finally admit that maybe Trump was irresponsible when he advocated violence and taking the law in his supporters hands against protesters and hecklers. In other words you can't have it both ways. Ok for the right to do, but bad for the left.

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slo1111 said:
What are you exactly asking for? All people on the left should gather up their riot gear and stop ANTIFA from vandalizing?

You are are waaaaay out of touch if you don't think individuals with radicalized beliefs from the right have not killed because of their twisted beliefs. I fail to see a distinction whether it is a congressman, a congregation or black man on the phone with his mom.

How about this, just finally admit that maybe Trump was irresponsible when he advocated violence and taking the law in his supporters hands against protesters and hecklers. In other words you can't have it both ways. Ok for the right to do, but bad for the left.

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New flash...and you heard it here first. Twisted people commit violence and murder. They may be influenced by some rhetoric, but it takes a sick mind to not being able to distinguish right from wrong.
 
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akyron said:
says the guy with a toilet paper icon.

Oh the irony!!!

I dont hate anyone. That isnt my thing. Thats a dem thing you would know if you havent been asleep the last 10 plus months.
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Translation: "I don't hate. It's all those stupid dems who hate!" :lol:

akyron said:
what is hateful is people that follow this tragedy saying "too bad it wasnt trump."
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That is wrong and I don't condone any such comments.

akyron said:
Do you really think this type of hateful behavior will garner any votes from an apolitical person?......doubt it.
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No. Hating isn't much of a lure for the left. Turns out the right wing to the polls quite well though.
 
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TurtleDude said:
what is asinine is saying that only the right makes such silly statements and some of those claims are accurate some of the time.
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I never said only the right makes such silly statements. Never said anything close to that.
 
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bearpoker said:
I don't blame law abiding gun owners. That's most of my family. I just want background checks to make sure the nut jobs don't get guns in the first place. I think that's a better solution than guns in kindergartens, which is what the NRA is pushing.
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Many of the shootings have been done by nutjobs who passed background checks or stole weapons. So your solution wouldnt have much impact except to maybe give the govt even more power to infringe on the rights of law abiding-non nutjob citizens. The point being that you need to move beyond this obsession with the tool and try solving the underlying reasons people committ violence. And you dont start with the few people who are crazy and use guns, ignoring the overwhelming mass of people who are perfectly sane, and use guns, knives, bats and fists.
 
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vesper said:
fair enough
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It's a ridiculous attempt to absolve themselves by saying politics had nothing to do with it and that everybody is to blame but waddya gonna do.
 
Re: Reports: 'Multiple shooting' at congressional baseball game practice field [W:73]

slo1111 said:
What are you exactly asking for? All people on the left should gather up their riot gear and stop ANTIFA from vandalizing?

You are are waaaaay out of touch if you don't think individuals with radicalized beliefs from the right have not killed because of their twisted beliefs. I fail to see a distinction whether it is a congressman, a congregation or black man on the phone with his mom.

How about this, just finally admit that maybe Trump was irresponsible when he advocated violence and taking the law in his supporters hands against protesters and hecklers. In other words you can't have it both ways. Ok for the right to do, but bad for the left.

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Like who and with what incentive?
If there was a valid comparison to Hodgkinson to be made you would have made it.
You're saying this attack had nothing to do with political ideology ... that's an embarrassing attempt to evade the obvious that we will never agree on.
 
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bubbabgone said:
Like who and with what incentive?
If there was a valid comparison to Hodgkinson to be made you would have made it.
You're saying this attack had nothing to do with political ideology ... that's an embarrassing attempt to evade the obvious that we will never agree on.
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That is rediculous claim I said this has nothing to do with political ideology. I'm simply asking you to have the knowlege to differentiate rehtoric which advocates violence. Calling Obama or Trump the worst president ever does not equate to promoting violence. Asking to take a hecklers out on a stretcher is.

For f's sake. The man you like as our fearless leader is King of demeaning his enemies and here you are trying to claim the issue is only a left side issue.

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slo1111 said:
That is rediculous claim I said this has nothing to do with political ideology. I'm simply asking you to have the knowlege to differentiate rehtoric which advocates violence. Calling Obama or Trump the worst president ever does not equate to promoting violence. Asking to take a hecklers out on a stretcher is.

For f's sake. The man you like as our fearless leader is King of demeaning his enemies and here you are trying to claim the issue is only a left side issue.

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What was this shooter's motivation?
 
Re: Reports: 'Multiple shooting' at congressional baseball game practice field [W:73]

bubbabgone said:
Like who and with what incentive?
If there was a valid comparison to Hodgkinson to be made you would have made it.
You're saying this attack had nothing to do with political ideology ... that's an embarrassing attempt to evade the obvious that we will never agree on.
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Your position is ridiculous. I'm really not looking to get into a fruitless back-and-forth on this with you... but you are woefully disconnected from reality on this point.
Do you think any of the following were folks on the Right motivated by political rhetoric?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_threats_against_Barack_Obama
 
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