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Canvassers charged in fake, fraudulent voter registrations

Fishking said:
Of course it's cheating. The only thing you said is that they are allowed to cheat.
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Cheating involves something that breaks the rules, and this does not.

At the end of the day, more people voted for Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary. Bernie bros need to get the **** over it.
 
faithful_servant said:
Shall we start a pool on who we think will be the first TDS sufferer here to blame Pres. Trump???
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You poor poor man. Preemptively flying your victim flag for no reason. Sad.
 
HonestJoe said:
This seems to have nothing to to with electoral fraud and everything to do with incompetent management of voter registration. I'd suggest part of the root problem is the almost obsessive and singular focus on voter ID there, meaning there will be no attention on areas that really need attention such as voter registration systems and processes.
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How does "incompetent management of voter registration" = or justify actual fraudulent acts of intentioanlyl falsifying voter registration/

Dear sweet baby hay Zeus....and you folk wonder why you have no credibility. Why cant you just say. "Yeah...that was wrong...looks like some folks ****ed up." Because guess what. They did. Intentionally.
 
One of the more memorable Active Rat Politicians to run for President.... none other than CruzRat -
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Rat****ing is an American slang term for political sabotage or dirty tricks. It was first brought to public attention by Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein in their book All the President's Men.
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Deuce said:
You can't "steal" a party nomination from the voters because political parties aren't obligated to let you vote on their candidate in the first place. In fact, having primary elections at all is a relatively recent phenomenon. The DNC favoring Hillary Clinton isn't cheating, she's the candidate they wanted.

But I'm glad you're agreeing with me on this instance.
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I didn't say "steal". I said collusion. Do you even know what collusion means?
 
DA60 said:
:roll:

Yet another thread on how Trump must have won the popular vote.

This has gone beyond pathetic.

This is like a team winning the Super Bowl but claiming over and over and over and over and over and over and over again that the NFL stat takers were bribed because their team really did have more total yards than the other team.

Get a life Trumpbots.

Oops, sorry, I meant get a meaningful life, Trumpbots.
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What is pathetic is posters claiming that Trump or the Russians stole the election. He won it fair and square, even if 65 million people didn't like the results.
 
Deuce said:
Cheating involves something that breaks the rules, and this does not.

At the end of the day, more people voted for Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary. Bernie bros need to get the **** over it.
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Ummmmmmmmmm. The DNC was caught rigging the election. DWS even resigned because of it and Donna Brazille ultimately confessed.
 
reinoe said:
I volunteered for Ron Paul, and while Ron Paul was definitely getting screwed by the GOP: he also had no chance of winning the primary.
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Nope but the party definitely threw their weight behind other candidates and actively worked against Ron Paul and actually did things like invalidate votes and delegates and even changed the rules so he couldn't go to the convention. That's more than what the Dems did.
 
reinoe said:
Please stop bending over backwards to justify voter registration fraud.
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Please stop bending over backwards to justify a bogus democracy that rests upon nothing but "well yeah, but your side's more corrupt than my side so there!".
 
Fishking said:
Nope but the party definitely threw their weight behind other candidates and actively worked against Ron Paul and actually did things like invalidate votes and delegates and even changed the rules so he couldn't go to the convention. That's more than what the Dems did.
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The entire system is corrupt, by design, just as the founders intended. It's important to recall that only affluent land holding white males were granted the vote - not exactly "endowed by their creator" - and the senate was appointed by the aristocracy.
 
Fishking said:
Nope but the party definitely threw their weight behind other candidates and actively worked against Ron Paul and actually did things like invalidate votes and delegates and even changed the rules so he couldn't go to the convention. That's more than what the Dems did.
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1. Yes, the RNC threw their weight behind other candidates.

2. Yes there were dirty rules changes.

3. There was a "only ron paul wing" a "mitt romney wing" and an "anyone but ron paul" wing. Paul was never winning the GOP nomination, which is why the GOP antics were so disgusting in the first place.
 
HonestJoe said:
This seems to have nothing to to with electoral fraud and everything to do with incompetent management of voter registration. I'd suggest part of the root problem is the almost obsessive and singular focus on voter ID there, meaning there will be no attention on areas that really need attention such as voter registration systems and processes.
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Registration fraud is electoral fraud.
 
reinoe said:
Yes we get it: illegal immigrants loved Hillary Clinton.
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Yes, we get it, you think literally half of California's Democratic voters are illegal immigrants. Trump told you so, and you never stopped to think about how stupid that is.
 
VanceMack said:
How does "incompetent management of voter registration" = or justify actual fraudulent acts of intentioanlyl falsifying voter registration/

Dear sweet baby hay Zeus....and you folk wonder why you have no credibility. Why cant you just say. "Yeah...that was wrong...looks like some folks ****ed up." Because guess what. They did. Intentionally.
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I never said the crimes here were justified, I was just challenging the spin on motives and causes. The statement from the prosecutor made it very clear that this motives in this case weren't to unduly influence election results but simply individuals looking to make money.

That was still very much wrong and those individuals should be punished but the reason it happened should influence the wider response. If this is spun in to yet another party-political argument, the very real problems with the registration system that caused this to happen will continue to exist. I don't think the politicos care about electoral fraud unless it adversely affects them or they can blame it on their political opponents. Your position appears to be that the people involved in this should all have the book thrown at them but that the cause was that they're evil leftists so the underlying system of paying people to register voters should continue without a second thought.
 
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