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Boehner: Trump has been 'complete disaster'

chromium said:
If he's still learning, he shouldn't be in a position to churn out unconstitutional EOs and threats and confidential info to our enemies UNTIL he learns

Every other job seems to have probationary or training period ffs, yet we have this asinine gold standard of first 100 days

Now that i think Trump will do any good with the other 1300, if he lasts that long
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If you (and everyone else) are not learning every day of your life then you are doing it wrong.

This quote is much ado about nothing.
 
chromium said:
Boehner himself as speaker was an enormous example of what's wrong with DC, for sure

I recall when he wouldn't even allow a vote on ENDA, which passed the senate

But it still doesn't excuse any mistakes from Trump, especially the EOs
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Ya, I am on record at least 5 years back saying "Boehner SUCKS!" , a fact that must be kept in consideration whenever he is running his mouth.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
If you (and everyone else) are not learning every day of your life then you are doing it wrong.

This quote is much ado about nothing.
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Yes but i try to learn what i can before i do something that could blow up in my face, or in others' faces

Trump had 0 experience in governing and was signing EOs practically the minute he was in office, that is totally wrong and a guarantee for disaster. The constitution needs to be amended to ensure a proper gradual ascension in government. Someone should have to begin at local office and then climb their way up. This isn't 1783
 
danarhea said:
He shouldn't have been, but the Dems opened the door to him by running a flawed candidate themselves.
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Flawed?

A flaw is a minor, often un-noticed mar in the final product. Hillary is far and away ahead of flawed.

The Dems deserve what they've been given. The stupid pricks crowned that woman eight years before, ignoring the number one rule of politics....issues change.

Hillary was too old for where the Democrats had to be with youth vote, FFS her theme music was from the 70's. With the aging Bernie the party looked like a Geritol ad.

It's a brand new ball game out there and youth is speaking; here they just helped deliver a message of "straighten up" by electing a minority government and the Green Party with three seats and the balance of power. Nowhere, never before in any jurisdiction has the Green Party ever elected three members....and it was youth vote that made the difference in city ridings where the Liberals got killed, for......being old.
 
chromium said:
Yes but i try to learn what i can before i do something that could blow up in my face, or in others' faces

Trump had 0 experience in governing and was signing EOs practically the minute he was in office, that is totally wrong and a guarantee for disaster. The constitution needs to be amended to ensure a proper gradual ascension in government. Someone should have to begin at local office and then climb their way up. This isn't 1783
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If that is a problem take it up with the people who gave him the job.

I mean really, since when is reaching for more a bad thing in America?

But we claim that Trump has to play by different rules dont we...

Because we suck.
 
rocket88 said:
In Trump's spray tan? I must admit I try not to examine it that closely.
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When it comes to spray tan's Trump's is clearly superior. His reminds me of a creamcicle because of the eyes. Like an orange raccoon. Beoehners always reminded me a little bit of the The Annoying Orange.

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Yes -Trump has been a complete disaster. ForBoehner to admit it should send a chilling shot down the nervous system of every Trumpkin in the land.
 
danarhea said:
He shouldn't have been, but the Dems opened the door to him by running a flawed candidate themselves.
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100% accurate.

And the stupid hardcore Dems want to move even further left. The days of the Clintons and those like them are over as far as having chances of winning presidential elections.
 
JamesBY said:
100% accurate.

And the stupid hardcore Dems want to move even further left. The days of the Clintons and those like them are over as far as having chances of winning presidential elections.
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The problem with the DNC doesn't seem to be a matter of left/right. The problem with the DNC seems to be that everyone they choose in positions of leadership is evil. Just hating and wishing to destroy human life evil.

Somebody once said that Hillary Clinton is not Mephistopholes. The fact that that literally has to be said should say something about how Hillary Clinton wasn't just seen as a bad candidate: she was literally seen as an evil person.

Perez? Evil. DWS? Evil. Ellison and Warren? Not as evil as Perez, DWS, and Clinton, but they are still seen as evil people. The Democrats need to start over fresh because right now the party doesn't reek of incompetence: it reeks of sulfur from the gates of hell. Joe Biden literally ignored the final wishes of his dying son because Joe was more loyal to Hillary than his own family. That's terrifying.

Tulsi Gabbard would be a shoe-in. But I guarantee you the DNC would never allow her a leadership position after she refused to bow down and kiss the ring of Queen Hillary. And if you think about the position the Democrats are in right now: who do they have that didn't sell their soul to Queen Hillary who has prominence? Nobody else.
 
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DA60 said:
'U.S. President Donald Trump's time in office has been a "complete disaster" aside from foreign affairs, fellow Republican and former U.S. House Speaker John Boehner said at an energy conference.

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"Everything else he's done has been a complete disaster," Boehner said at the energy conference in Houston on Wednesday, according to the energy publication Rigzone. "He's still learning how to be president."'


Boehner: Trump has been 'complete disaster' | Reuters


Thoughts?
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Trump is anti everything

republican
democrat
establishment

no one in particular likes him...or ever has

he was elected solely because the democrats ran the worst candidate in history....

am I surprised an establishment republican doesn't like him? or is trashing him?

not one iota
 
chromium said:
Yes but i try to learn what i can before i do something that could blow up in my face, or in others' faces

Trump had 0 experience in governing and was signing EOs practically the minute he was in office, that is totally wrong and a guarantee for disaster. The constitution needs to be amended to ensure a proper gradual ascension in government. Someone should have to begin at local office and then climb their way up. This isn't 1783
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ooh

so only career politicians

well I cant see how that could ever go wrong

:lamo
 
reinoe said:
The problem with the DNC doesn't seem to be a matter of left/right. The problem with the DNC seems to be that everyone they choose in positions of leadership is evil. Just hating and wishing to destroy human life evil.
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That is silliness. They are not vicious socialists or fascists. They are not as nutty, in most cases, as the Alt Right.

Somebody once said that Hillary Clinton is not Mephistopholes. The fact that that literally has to be said should say something about how Hillary Clinton wasn't just seen as a bad candidate: she was literally seen as an evil person.
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That's an opinion, a silly one.

Perez? Evil. DWS? Evil. Ellison and Warren? Not as evil as Perez, DWS, and Clinton, but they are still seen as evil people. The Democrats need to start over fresh because right now the party doesn't reek of incompetence: it reeks of sulfur from the gates of hell. Joe Biden literally ignored the final wishes of his dying son because Joe was more loyal to Hillary than his own family. That's terrifying.
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<<That is a rant as crazy as the folks from Westboro or any number of Christian dominionists I have read.

Tulsi Gabbard would be a shoe-in. But I guarantee you the DNC would never allow her a leadership position after she refused to bow down and kiss the ring of Queen Hillary. And if you think about the position the Democrats are in right now: who do they have that didn't sell their soul to Queen Hillary who has prominence? Nobody else.
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Their position right is to help the dysfunctional GOP Congress over the legislative cliff.
 
reinoe said:
The problem with the DNC doesn't seem to be a matter of left/right. The problem with the DNC seems to be that everyone they choose in positions of leadership is evil. Just hating and wishing to destroy human life evil.

Somebody once said that Hillary Clinton is not Mephistopholes. The fact that that literally has to be said should say something about how Hillary Clinton wasn't just seen as a bad candidate: she was literally seen as an evil person.

Perez? Evil. DWS? Evil. Ellison and Warren? Not as evil as Perez, DWS, and Clinton, but they are still seen as evil people. The Democrats need to start over fresh because right now the party doesn't reek of incompetence: it reeks of sulfur from the gates of hell. Joe Biden literally ignored the final wishes of his dying son because Joe was more loyal to Hillary than his own family. That's terrifying.

Tulsi Gabbard would be a shoe-in. But I guarantee you the DNC would never allow her a leadership position after she refused to bow down and kiss the ring of Queen Hillary. And if you think about the position the Democrats are in right now: who do they have that didn't sell their soul to Queen Hillary who has prominence? Nobody else.
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Not sure if serious :confused:
 
JamesBY said:
Their position right is to help the dysfunctional GOP Congress over the legislative cliff.
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How's that working out? With losing election after election after election? The Dem establishment would rather lose with one of their own then give reform a chance. They believe in loyalty to party ahead of loyalty to country.
 
reinoe said:
How's that working out? With losing election after election after election?
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Dems picked up seats in the House and the Seate

The Dem establishment would rather lose with one of their own then give reform a chance. They believe in loyalty to party ahead of loyalty to country.
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That's exactly with the Trumpistantis and Alt Right believe, and they will crash burn on their partisan ideology just as have the left of the Dems.

No Tax Reform, a crippled ACA-AHCA bill that is going to tear the House GOP when the Senate version comes back, the nuclear option now making SCOTUS a no-cloture deal (which I happen to agree with), and a 9TRILLION$$$ monstrosity of a budge bill? :mrgreen:
 
I really disliked Boehner when he was Speaker of the House. He was a terrible, 100% bipartisan idiot, who did nothing. Absolutely nothing. In fact, he thought his job description was to "do nothing". As much as I dislike Trump, I disliked Boehner even more.
 
gdgyva said:
ooh

so only career politicians

well I cant see how that could ever go wrong

:lamo
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of course, but better than celebrity and heiress politicians

at least they would have to be approved by numerous voting districts before running for federal office. Along those lines, since it is a federal office and not a "texas" white house for instance, they should have to hold offices in various parts of the country as well first
 
gdgyva said:
Trump is anti everything

republican
democrat
establishment

no one in particular likes him...or ever has

he was elected solely because the democrats ran the worst candidate in history....

am I surprised an establishment republican doesn't like him? or is trashing him?

not one iota
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they're only doing that because he is indeed running them as a party into the ground. Had his reign not been "disastrous", had he not had the lowest approval rating ever, they would be thrilled to ride off his coattails the way Pence/Guiliani attempted

but as it is, they have to distance themselves before 2018, if not remove him

and i should add, he has certainly had help in ruining the party from others like Ryan, which is why he'll probably be removed as well
 
Hawkeye10 said:
If that is a problem take it up with the people who gave him the job.

I mean really, since when is reaching for more a bad thing in America?

But we claim that Trump has to play by different rules dont we...

Because we suck.
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Actually in the vast majority of America, despite the spread of nepotism, you do have to work your way up the ladder. That was kind of my point. I also see it as an insurance policy against sudden surges of fanaticism that can lead to an untried candidate attaining too much power. I don't care if it's Sarah Palin or Trump or whatever. But the founders, since i mean none of them had governing experience and things were simpler back then, did not consider this
 
DA60 said:
'U.S. President Donald Trump's time in office has been a "complete disaster" aside from foreign affairs, fellow Republican and former U.S. House Speaker John Boehner said at an energy conference.

...

"Everything else he's done has been a complete disaster," Boehner said at the energy conference in Houston on Wednesday, according to the energy publication Rigzone. "He's still learning how to be president."'

Boehner: Trump has been 'complete disaster' | Reuters


Thoughts?
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Please post the data and economic numbers that support that claim? Seems actual results are ignored by far too many whereas perception is reality
 
I always felt a little bad for Boehner. He pretty much had the role of GOP leader dumped on him after the 2012 election and was in no way prepared for it.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
If you (and everyone else) are not learning every day of your life then you are doing it wrong.

This quote is much ado about nothing.
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But some jobs are so important we don't want them learning too much on the job. We want them qualified and prepared first. Trump was neither.

Can you imagine sending a soldier to war with no or little basic training? We've done that at times when we were deperate for warm bodies, and they never got a second chance.

Making mistakes as CIC is much much more untenable.

it would help if Trump would at least listen to people before sticking his foot in his mouth or making a terrible blunder.
 
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