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School not allowing teen to walk in graduation because she is pregnant

They should hold a sperate graduation ceramony for only pregnant teens like they do with other groups of people. See -> Harvard black only ceramony
 
PirateMk1 said:
If they have faith, then that change wont happen, and the scorn and ridicule will be ignored as it should be.
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Yes because their book of fairy tales tells them so.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Doesn't it?

The pro-birthers all tight jawed, screaming and nasty about any woman having an abortion seem to be the same people who can't wait to slut shame women who become pregnant when they are not married. If I am a 15 year old girl who finds herself pregnant the first thing I'm going to do is consider abortion if for no other reasons than to avoid the hate filled onslaught from slut shaming maniacs.

Not all religions are mouth foaming craziods. In fact most Christians are more forgiving, understanding and tolerant than many of the hypocritical nutters we see here.
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Exactamundo.
 
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BillRM said:
Depends on the family. My family is very diverse. My mother and father were Catholic but their parents were Catholic and protestant on one side. On the other side they were Catholic and Lutheran. I was initially raised as a Catholic until I was a teenager. My parents actually encouraged me to look into other religions and I went many times to church with my cousins who were not Catholic. I was an alter boy at the time and even my priest was open to me exploring other religions. I guess my family and circle of friends weren't all that pig headed. I actually changed religions a couple of times. I believe their is only one god and which form of religion we chose to believe is irrelevant. There are many paths to heaven.
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Not according to the Catholic teachings.
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Hari Seldon said:
That's what I thought when I read the article. I'm sure all the guys are virgins.


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The guy probably goes to a different school, more than likely a public one.
 
jdog21 said:
The guy probably goes to a different school, more than likely a public one.
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I wasn't referring to the actual father since I have no idea who it is and neither do you. Just a general observation on the entire male graduation class. You think they are all pure as snow? LOL!

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Top Cat said:
Could your comment possibly be more ingorant?
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No. The rule at this private school is that a pregnant person cannot walk. You asked if the boy is allowed to walk. The natural question is: is the boy pregnant?

If you know the answer to this question then you should be able to figure out if the person who impregnated her is allowed to walk. Easy. Glad I could help.
 
Hari Seldon said:
I wasn't referring to the actual father since I have no idea who it is and neither do you. Just a general observation on the entire male graduation class. You think they are all pure as snow? LOL!

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No i dont. But neither are other girls in that same school. Im sure their are many boys and girls in her same class that are having sex. She is only being punished cuz being pregnant no one can deny that they are having sex. Whether you agree or disagree makes no difference to me. I believe she is being singled out
 
BillRM said:
So you are comfortable punishing a young woman without knowing the facts and just assuming the sex was between equals and not pressure in any way or in any manner?
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If that is what you take from what I wrote, then you might wish to consider improving your reading comprehension. I am not punishing anyone. I am simply expressing an opinion of agreement with the schools policy and the facts at face value. If cannot comprehend that, then I am of no help to you.
 
jdog21 said:
No i dont. But neither are other girls in that same school. Im sure their are many boys and girls in her same class that are having sex. She is only being punished cuz being pregnant no one can deny that they are having sex. Whether you agree or disagree makes no difference to me. I believe she is being singled out
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I agree. You think they had enough or any sex education or available birth control? I just think it's quite hypocritical that's all. If she had an abortion and kept everything secret as the others that have had sex she would have been able to graduate with everyone. Its like abstinence only education leading to higher teenage pregnancy (see Texas). Makes no sense to me.

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BillRM said:
Sorry but that I do not agree with you as you are willing to harm her and her unborn child by shaming and neither of us know the situation surrounding her becoming pregnant in the first place and we do not know for sure that she choose to become pregnant unless you have more information that you would wish to share it with us.
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And th strawman. Please show me where I shamed anyone? I didn't. But since you can't support your previous argument you have to switch to a strawman. If you don't know how women get pregnant the. I suggest taking a biology course they will explain it to you.

Obviously she had sex and got pregnant so unless you think there was another way please let us know.

In my life I had known three sisters that was raised next door who father have sex with them as they was growing up. Thank god they did not become pregnant even those it did mess them up for life.
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So again you are making an accusation of sexual abuse please prove it.

An a few more women who had told me similar stories over the decades of my life so it does happen.
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Then you should have no problem proving it here.

Now do you once more know for sure the situation of how she become pregnant or are you just eager to do some slut shaming without knowing?
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No where have I shamed anyone you are the one making the accusation without proof or evidence.
You don't get to create my argument.

Saying she knew the rules and now wants special treatment is not shamin her at all.
Quit making up nonsense and prove where she was sexually abused like you keep alleging.
 
BillRM said:
ludin said:
So only stoning matter to Jesus and he would had been fine with harming the woman in the bible story in some other manner?
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Again you can't be honest. I think you are making your way to my ignore list.
No one is harming her again you post nonsense.
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It's stupid, but it is a private high school and they can have any rules they want. I went to a private Christian school too and if a girl got pregnant, she got expelled. Supposedly. Except the one girl whose father was a major contributor to the school. She got to stay.
 
Hari Seldon said:
I agree. You think they had enough or any sex education or available birth control? I just think it's quite hypocritical that's all. If she had an abortion and kept everything secret as the others that have had sex she would have been able to graduate with everyone. Its like abstinence only education leading to higher teenage pregnancy (see Texas). Makes no sense to me.

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Well i do agree that the absitinee preaching leads to a greater number of teen revolts. I went to public school and saw these catholic schools girls being easier to sleep with then the girls in my public school.
I do not know if their school has a sex education course i can only guess that they do. And i know public schools do.
But as far as available birth control, they have the same access to it that every other person does. Save a little bit of money for a condom or go to the local health center were they give out bags of like 30 condoms for free to teens.

So its seems reasonable to say sex is happening in these religous schools dispite the abstinence being taught. But the kids have excess to birth control measures. The problem is the shaming and probably to a greater exstint the educational aspect. They should be teaching kids the reproductive system but also where and how to get item that can protect their lives. And thats not being taught anywhere cuz parents fear that kids will do it more. And that may be true but at least is done safer and will probably lower the teen pregnancy rate as well. Which i think everyone would agree that those two issues going down dispite the sex rate going up would be a good thing.
 
_Sal said:
of course it isn't which is demonstrated by her pregnancy...however her parents chose to have her attend...it is their right
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True, but that right is not in question. The school policy to shame one sinner while not all sinners is.
 
Scrabaholic said:
I was wondering how many pages it would take for someone to bring sex ed up. I'm guessing this school doesn't teach it, being a private Christian school.
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The purpose of any school is to prepare the student(s) for life, real life, with all the pitfalls and rewards that it has to offer. To handicap a young mind so they have a higher chance of failing is a great disservice.

If they did, perhaps she'd not be pregnant.
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Indeed.

As for the topic of not being able to graduate - whether or not I agree with the rule, she knowingly broke it, so she has to face the consequences.
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We all have to face the consequences of our actions or sometimes failing to act. What is wrong here is the policy of publicly condemning one sinner while others are overlooked.
 
_Sal said:
really, that's how it sounds to you?....interesting that you would need to perceive it that way :shrug: because I have explained it many times throughout the thread and made my stance quite clear but...okay

your money can be anywhere you want it to be...you can guess and shuck and jive but when it comes down to it once again here are the facts: they are the parents, they paid the tuition and she attended a school with specific rules which she pledged to
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An the person that pay the bills are free to allowed the abuse of their children by your logic and then go even further and harm their grandchild at no added cost.

Thanks 'god' that my father was willing to do what it took to shield me from his good Christian parents.

The poor man was as easy going as can be but thanks to his Christian parents he had scares on his back to his dying days.

He was only 20 when he needed to go into the military and was still able at great emotional cost to himself able to protect my mother and years later myself so hopefully the young lady can do the same for her child.

Hopefully he or she will like myself not bear scares of any kind due to who his grandparents happen to be.
 
prometeus said:
The purpose of any school is to prepare the student(s) for life, real life, with all the pitfalls and rewards that it has to offer. To handicap a young mind so they have a higher chance of failing is a great disservice.

Indeed.

We all have to face the consequences of our actions or sometimes failing to act. What is wrong here is the policy of publicly condemning one sinner while others are overlooked.
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I have to agree with Scarbaholic their. IF parents want to send there kids to a stupid ridiculous school with crazy rules thats their right as parents. We dont need to change and ridicule privates schools. If they really are all that stupid and bad people wont send their kids there. Public school is different on the other hand we should all be able to have a say in the way the public treats our kids.
 
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