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School not allowing teen to walk in graduation because she is pregnant

Moot said:
How do you think she got pregnant....immaculate conception?
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Obviously not. I'm saying it's impossible to fully comment on the boy since we don't know anything about him.
 
Henrin said:
Obviously not. I'm saying it's impossible to fully comment on the boy since we don't know anything about him.
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No one is fully commenting on him...except to say he shares responsibility because she couldn't have gotten pregnant without him.
 
Chomsky said:
Bah.

You don't remember when you were a kid?

It's not that easy!
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My grandmother was married at 15 and at 16 was pregnant with my aunt. She was working full time at 12 to help feed the family after her father died in a mine accident. She was a devout Catholic. World Wars and depressions did not allow the luxury of growing up or being a kid. My parents didn't finish school.
 
The School has its rules, and as a private business that is the school's right.

However . . . she can write a letter of protest to the School Board outlining her emotional distress and damage, informing the Board she will forward the letter to her attorney for further action.

The students, if they are true Christians, will boycott the graduation.
 
What is so hard about being responsible and following the rules. How do you people even play a game. Just like our election process as soon as it does not work in your favor we have to change the rules. Grow up.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
What is so hard about being responsible and following the rules. How do you people even play a game. Just like our election process as soon as it does not work in your favor we have to change the rules. Grow up.
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Humans will be humans.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
My grandmother was married at 15 and at 16 was pregnant with my aunt. She was working full time at 12 to help feed the family after her father died in a mine accident. She was a devout Catholic. World Wars and depressions did not allow the luxury of growing up or being a kid. My parents didn't finish school.
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That was the deal with many old timers from that era, and especially immigrants like my family.

But it's a different world today, and with different paths to success. Good to remember those values, though. But apply them to the modern world.

As an aside: My wife has a high-worth client couple, both in their nineties! Their family business employs nearly a thousand, with revenue well into 9 figures. They live in a property that's solidly in the 7 figures. But they are as penny-pinching frugal as anyone you've ever know! Tight to the penny, in their everyday lives! They grew-up and came of age during the depression. It stayed with them all through the decades, even though they are now wealthy. It's not uncommon for their generation.
 
Mac77 said:
Having sex with a boy that does not love her is pretty stupid
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What is even more stupid is to make assumptions about the boy and his feeling for her.

Maybe she will reconsider the anything-goes message of the wacko leftwingers
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Or maybe she will brush up on sex ed, something the idiots in so called Christian schools fail to teach.
 
Josie said:
She didn't get "caught" -- her immorality is just very apparent because her sin causes a physical change. Everyone at the school (including all of the teachers and administration) has lied, been jealous or had "impure thoughts". I'm going to guess that if a student lied to a teacher at his homework, he would still get to walk in graduation even though lying is also immorality.
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Yea, but in these "Christian" schools only what they declare is sin and even that only when it applies to others.
 
ibelsd said:
Exactly what is stupid about a policy which attempts to hold teens accountable and attempts to associate sex with responsibility?
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The double standard that singles out sex as a worse sin than other sins.

I understand that trying to convince teens to remain abstinent is an uphill slog. It does not mean it is not worthwhile.
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True.

Frankly, I don't think there is anything wrong with trying to uphold young people to high standards.
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There is nothing wrong with high standards as long as they are consistent and are not used as a club to beat down those who fail to meet them.

The girl made a mistake.
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Perhaps if the education at the school would have been better the mistake would not have taken place.

However, not being able to across a graduation bridge palls in comparison with having to raise a child at the age of 18 and unmarried (hopefully the male isn't absentee). So, if the symbolism of her not being able to graduate with her peers makes an impact on other young girls and serves to get them to think about consequences a little more, then this becomes a net positive.
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NO it does not. No positive can be or should be achieved at that expense.
 
JamesBY said:
The School has its rules, and as a private business that is the school's right.

However . . . she can write a letter of protest to the School Board outlining her emotional distress and damage, informing the Board she will forward the letter to her attorney for further action.

The students, if they are true Christians, will boycott the graduation.
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Pointless.

1. She violated the terms of her contract.
2. The school is doing nothing more than caring out the agreed upon punishment for violating the term of the contract.
3. The courts have already ruled private organizations can put no sex clauses in contracts.
4. There is no damages to speak of.
 
Mac77 said:
The unborn child in this story is lucky that his mother is a good Christian girl
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Who got ****ed.

Otherwise the baby might already be laying dead in a trash dump somewhere and have his body parts sold by Planned Parenthood to the highest bidder
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Ignorant moronic drivel.
 
Henrin said:
Remember kids that every whore is a slut, but not every slut is a whore. I think you meant slut.
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When girls have sex they are condemned, when boys do, well they are good with the ladies.
Perhaps you were born in the wrong century?
 
JANFU said:
When girls have sex they are condemned, when boys do, well they are good with the ladies.
Perhaps you were born in the wrong century?
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Why would you say that?
 
Henrin said:
Pointless.

1. She violated the terms of her contract.
2. The school is doing nothing more than caring out the agreed upon punishment for violating the term of the contract.
3. The courts have already ruled private organizations can put no sex clauses in contracts.
4. There is no damages to speak of.
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And courts of course can re-rule.
 
Chomsky said:
That was the deal with many old timers from that era, and especially immigrants like my family.

But it's a different world today, and with different paths to success. Good to remember those values, though. But apply them to the modern world.

As an aside: My wife has a high-worth client couple, both in their nineties! Their family business employs nearly a thousand, with revenue well into 9 figures. They live in a property that's solidly in the 7 figures. But they are as penny-pinching frugal as anyone you've ever know! Tight to the penny, in their everyday lives! They grew-up and came of age during the depression. It stayed with them all through the decades, even though they are now wealthy. It's not uncommon for their generation.
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Actually If memory serves her great grandmother was an immigrant. A lot of people in the coal belt came in the mid 1800's when coal ran everything. Unfortunately most coal miners did not live long enough to see their children grow up. Some of my ancestors started in the mines at 8 to 10 years old. When your life expectancy is 35 you get married and have children as a teenager. The mines killed the men and childbirth killed the women. None of them ever got above poverty until my parents generation.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
Perhaps. But she is having the child and will raise it so she will be dealing with the consequences of her actions the next couple decades. Why does the school feel the need to pile on?
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I didn't say she was shamed for life

We can overcome our mistakes and seeing the girl on TV makes me think she will be ok in time
 
Top Cat said:
You gotta love right wing nut jobs. They celebrate her not getting an abortion but condemn her for having sex.

Not a peep about the boy.

All the more reason to keep religion out of government.
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I don't see how government is involved in this story at all

Leave to a lib to cling to their big government security blanket whether it fits or not
 
Top Cat said:
Let's make **** up shall we?
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What **** did I make up?

Obama is the prototype liberal and he made it clear that if his teenage or pre teen daughter got pregnent he expected an aborton doctors knife to fix the problem for him
 
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Moot said:
The slut shaming for getting pregnant will only lead to more abortions.
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Not in this case

The Christian girl made a mistake but she did not stop being a Christian girl

So she refuses to kill her unborn child
 
HenryChinaski said:
I noticed you didn't say "a boy having sex with a girl who doesn't love him is pretty stupid" or "having sex with someone who doesn't love you is pretty stupid" Typical religious So-Con double standard where it's ok and "manly" for a dude to poke as much tail as possible but if a chick has sex with a guy out of wedlock she's a filthy harlot to be ridiculed and shamed.
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The story does not tell us anything about the father.

But the facts of life are that girls have more to lose by having sex outside marriage than the boys do
 
prometeus said:
What is even more stupid is to make assumptions about the boy and his feeling for her.

Or maybe she will brush up on sex ed, something the idiots in so called Christian schools fail to teach.
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Where is the boy?

He does not appear to care about the girl since he is not going to marry her and help raise the child he created
 
prometeus said:
Who got ****ed.

Ignorant moronic drivel.
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Sex is not a bad thing

God intended people to have sex.

But sex under the wrong circumstances leads to problems that this girl can certainly testify to all too well
 
Mac77 said:
Not in this case

The Christian girl made a mistake but she did not stop being a Christian girl

So she refuses to kill her unborn child
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She wasn't allowed to attend her own graduation because she was pregnant out of wedlock. Other girls might see that as slut shaming and seek abortions rather than go through that kind of public shame.
 
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