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School not allowing teen to walk in graduation because she is pregnant

Skeptic Bob said:
They can make whatever stupid rules they want, and this is a stupid rule. I'm sure everyone crossing that stage has "sinned". The ironic thing is if she had gotten an abortion secretly she could have walked across the stage at that so-called "Christian" school.
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The point is:

This is a private school, and the association with it is voluntary. The standards of conduct, I would assume, are widely known and disseminated. Those that chose the school, chose these standards. She and her parents have the free choice to not associate. But they chose to do so. It's a package deal.
 
The problem with rules like this in Christian schools is that everyone at the graduation has done something immoral, including all of the adults.
 
joG said:
The parents might have done better bringing the girl up better.
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Bah.

You don't remember when you were a kid?

It's not that easy!
 
Josie said:
The problem with rules like this in Christian schools is that everyone at the graduation has done something immoral, including all of the adults.
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Thats like claiming that everyone who drives has broken a traffic law so why punish anyone who happens to get caught?
 
Josie said:
The problem with rules like this in Christian schools is that everyone at the graduation has done something immoral, including all of the adults.
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Of course.

But that doesn't mean they, or we, should not strive to hold ourselves to the highest standards.
 
If you don't like it, don't attend a Christian school and sign a letter of abstinence.
 
Chomsky said:
The point is:

This is a private school, and the association with it is voluntary. The standards of conduct, I would assume, are widely known and disseminated. Those that chose the school, chose these standards. She and her parents have the free choice to not associate. But they chose to do so. It's a package deal.
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You are right. But I feel more inclined to criticize private high schools and private elementary schools than I would a private college for stupid rules because, for the most part, at the former the kids don't have a choice in being there. Shaming a kid just because the parents agreed to the shaming is still not ok with me. If it were a private college I probably wouldn't comment.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
You are right. But I feel more inclined to criticize private high schools and private elementary schools than I would a private college for stupid rules because, for the most part, at the former the kids don't have a choice in being there.

Shaming a kid just because the parents agreed to the shaming is still not ok with me.

If it were a private college I probably wouldn't comment.
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The girl shamed herself
 
Mac77 said:
Thats like claiming that everyone who drives has broken a traffic law so why punish anyone who happens to get caught?
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She didn't get "caught" -- her immorality is just very apparent because her sin causes a physical change. Everyone at the school (including all of the teachers and administration) has lied, been jealous or had "impure thoughts". I'm going to guess that if a student lied to a teacher at his homework, he would still get to walk in graduation even though lying is also immorality.
 
Josie said:
She didn't get "caught" -- her immorality is just very apparent because her sin causes a physical change. Everyone at the school (including all of the teachers and administration) has lied, been jealous or had "impure thoughts". I'm going to guess that if a student lied to a teacher at his homework, he would still get to walk in graduation even though lying is also immorality.
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Lying is not ok.

If a student was caught lying they would be punished too.

The girl made a mistake and she is suffering the consequences for that mistake

Thats life
 
Mac77 said:
Lying is not ok.

If a student was caught lying they would be punished too.

The girl made a mistake and she is suffering the consequences for that mistake

Thats life
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Where are the kids sitting out of graduation because they lied?
 
Mac77 said:
Lying is not ok.

If a student was caught lying they would be punished too.

The girl made a mistake and she is suffering the consequences for that mistake

Thats life
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Are you aware of how rare Truth Tellers are?
 
I think the newsworthy thing about this thread is how it has attained status as newsworthy. The second interesting thing about this thread is the intolerance from the secular left regarding moral rules and values set in place for a Christian organization (in this case a school). We have heard how such rules are stupid, bigoted, and useless from the left leaning members.

Exactly what is stupid about a policy which attempts to hold teens accountable and attempts to associate sex with responsibility? I understand that trying to convince teens to remain abstinent is an uphill slog. It does not mean it is not worthwhile. Frankly, I don't think there is anything wrong with trying to uphold young people to high standards. I get that the standards of this school may not conform with your own, but it does not make them wrong and it certainly does not make them stupid as many in here have commented. The situation is unfortunate. The girl made a mistake. However, not being able to across a graduation bridge palls in comparison with having to raise a child at the age of 18 and unmarried (hopefully the male isn't absentee). So, if the symbolism of her not being able to graduate with her peers makes an impact on other young girls and serves to get them to think about consequences a little more, then this becomes a net positive.
 
faithful_servant said:
No, she was pregnant shortly after she was elected and walked in graduation at about 8 months.
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yea ours was pregnant after graduation. actually it was the president of the Christian club at the time.
people were a bit on the surprised side when they found out.

getting pregnant wasn't a cool thing back then.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
You are right. But I feel more inclined to criticize private high schools and private elementary schools than I would a private college for stupid rules because, for the most part, at the former the kids don't have a choice in being there. Shaming a kid just because the parents agreed to the shaming is still not ok with me. If it were a private college I probably wouldn't comment.
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I can respect that.

That's why after Catholic Grammar School, I let my kids pretty much have free reign over choosing their High School. I cut them a deal where they could pick any H.S. they wanted, as long as I had input in their taking several classes I felt they needed to receive a full, balanced, quality education.

They all stuck with Catholic Preps for H.S., which actually surprised me, but the Catholic Prep Schools are a pretty big deal around here. They got great educations, and now so far one went to a Catholic university, and the other is doing a 2+2 at a state school.
 
Chomsky said:
I can respect that.

That's why after Catholic Grammar School, I let my kids pretty much have free reign over choosing their High School. I cut them a deal where they could pick any H.S. they wanted, as long as I had input in their taking several classes I felt they needed to receive a full, balanced, quality education.

They all stuck with Catholic Preps for H.S., which actually surprised me, but the Catholic Prep Schools are a pretty big deal around here. They got great educations, and now so far one went to a Catholic university, and the other is doing a 2+2 at a state school.
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I think that you might want to have a talk with your kid's school if one them had to go to college to learn 2+2.... :mrgreen:
 
ludin said:
yea ours was pregnant after graduation. actually it was the president of the Christian club at the time.
people were a bit on the surprised side when they found out.

getting pregnant wasn't a cool thing back then.
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Getting PG in H.S. should *never* be a *cool* thing!

We don't want to isolate our kids through scorn and chastisement, but we definitely want to strongly push them in personal standards and smart life choices. And when they screw-up, we need to make them know and feel it. That's what family is for, and I take that as my parental responsibility.
 
Chomsky said:
Getting PG in H.S. should *never* be a *cool* thing!

We don't want to isolate our kids through scorn and chastisement, but we definitely want to strongly push them in personal standards and smart life choices. And when they screw-up, we need to make them know and feel it. That's what family is for, and I take that as my parental responsibility.
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no it isn't a cool thing and back then if even the guy that got her pregnant was looked bad on more so if they broke up later.
there has been a new wave in schools to stop getting pregnant and to hold off on sex.

it is personal responsibility. getting pregnant in high school usually means you aren't going to college etc ...
it greatly lowers your chances.
 
faithful_servant said:
I think that you might want to have a talk with your kid's school if one them had to go to college to learn 2+2.... :mrgreen:
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These kids are better with math than they look.

2+2 kid explained to me how "2+2 = $46K". In savings!

It didn't take much more than that, to sell me on the idea. :mrgreen:

(maybe not unexpectedly, the kid's studying finance)
 
Chomsky said:
These kids are better with math than they look.

2+2 kid explained to me how "2+2 = $46K". In savings!

It didn't take much more than that, to sell me on the idea. :mrgreen:

(maybe not unexpectedly, the kid's studying finance)
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But can they make change in their head without a computer to tell them how much to give the customer?

Many know-it-all snowflakes can't meet that standard
 
ludin said:
no it isn't a cool thing and back then if even the guy that got her pregnant was looked bad on more so if they broke up later.
there has been a new wave in schools to stop getting pregnant and to hold off on sex.

it is personal responsibility. getting pregnant in high school usually means you aren't going to college etc ...
it greatly lowers your chances.
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Yeah, I came up in the age where if you knocked your gf up, you were expected to do the right thing and marry her. Both families would press for it.

I may no longer agree to the wisdom of this, but I do agree that there's few choices in life that can cause as much set-back and struggle as a teenage pregnancy.

Of course, this has been going-on since time immortal ...
 
The unborn child in this story is lucky that his mother is a good Christian girl who made a mistake rather than a hearless liberal female who only cares about herself.

Otherwise the baby might already be laying dead in a trash dump somewhere and have his body parts sold by Planned Parenthood to the highest bidder
 
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