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Michael Flynn may have lied to officials about his Russia ties, congressman says

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Michael Flynn may have lied to officials about his Russia ties, congressman says
By Tom McCarthy
May 22, 2017

The former national security adviser Michael Flynn appears to have lied about his foreign ties to Barack Obama-era investigators who were weighing whether to renew his security clearances, according to a letter published by Elijah Cummings, the ranking member of the House oversight committee. Cummings announced in his letter, which was addressed to the oversight committee chairman, Jason Chaffetz: “The oversight committee has in our possession documents that appear to indicate that General Flynn lied to investigators who interviewed him in 2016 as part of his security clearance renewal.

“Specifically, the committee has obtained a report of investigation dated March 14, 2016, showing that General Flynn told security clearance investigators that he was paid ‘by US companies’ when he traveled to Moscow in December 2015 to dine at a gala with Russian president Vladimir Putin,” the letter continued. “The actual source of the funds for general Flynn’s trip was not a US company, but the Russian media propaganda arm, RT.” Flynn applied for a five-year clearance “re-investigation” about a month after the Moscow trip, in January 2016, the letter continues. He was interviewed in February. It was in that interview, the Democrats assert, that Flynn appears to have misled investigators as to the source of his livelihood. Neither Flynn nor his lawyers had immediate comment on the latest charges.
It seems that LGen. Flynn lied to a Pentagon agency (Defense Investigative Service) when he filled out Section 20 of his SF-86 (Personnel Security Questionnaire) document to renew a 5 year security clearance. This is perjury and a felony.
 
surprise, surprise, surprise Sergeant Carter ..........


 
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He's going down one way or another, unless he can give-up something big.

But even then, Trump will probably pardon him; unless what he gives up is Trump! :mrgreen:
 
FAKE NEWS!

no wait that's not right

DEEP STATE!!!

that's the ticket
 
It is a crime, but I have never heard of anyone being prosecuted for lying on their SF-86. Fired? Yes. Loss of security clearance? Absolutely. Prosecuted? Nope. Just like negligently mishandling classified information. It is illegal, but is never prosecuted.
 
Flynn seems to be the center of all this, not Trump.

Why does President Trump have the most overwhelmingly pro-Russia policy positions since WW2? Why do his policy positions read like a "Kremlin wish list" (not my words, but that of the former acting head of the CIA)? Why did Russia choose only to hurt Hillary and help President Trump? Why did Flynn lie? Why did President Trump try to obstruct the investigation into Flynn? Why does President Trump still want Flynn to work in the white house?
 
Flynn seems to be the center of all this, not Trump.
Agreed.

Though it all flows tangentially to Trump, Pence, and the campaign, through "what did they know, and when?".

However, where the immediate actions of Flynn *may* or *may not* have been criminal, Trump and crew's immediate actions were likely not criminal. Politically damaging perhaps, but likely not criminal.

If Trump ever does develop immediate legal issues, it will likely be something along the lines of obstruction in the Russian investigation, and will be a tough haul to pull-off. Unless of course he personally did collude, which is always a possibility though perhaps unlikely.
 
Michael Flynn may have lied to officials about his Russia ties, congressman says

It seems that LGen. Flynn lied to a Pentagon agency (Defense Investigative Service) when he filled out Section 20 of his SF-86 (Personnel Security Questionnaire) document to renew a 5 year security clearance. This is perjury and a felony.


Which question in Section 20 (or elsewhere) on an SF-86 asks if you've been paid by a foreign company?

20A.1
Have you, your spouse, cohabitant, or dependent children EVER had any foreign financial interests (such as stocks, property, investments, bank accounts, ownership of corporate entities, corporate interests or businesses) in which you or they have direct control or direct ownership? (Exclude financial interests in companies or diversified mutual funds that are publicly traded on a U.S. exchange.)

20A.2
Have you, your spouse, cohabitant, or dependent children EVER had any foreign financial interests that someone controlled on your behalf?

20A.3
Have you, your spouse, cohabitant, or dependent children EVER owned, or do you anticipate owning, or plan to purchase real estate in a foreign country?

20A.4
As a U.S. citizen, have you, your spouse, cohabitant, or dependent children received in the past seven (7) years, or are eligible to receive in the future, any educational, medical, retirement, social welfare, or other such benefit from a foreign country?

20A.5
Have you EVER provided financial support for any foreign national?

20B.1
Have you in the past seven (7) years provided advice or support to any individual associated with a foreign business or other foreign organization that you have not previously listed as a former employer? (Answer "No" if all your advice or support was authorized pursuant to official U.S. Government business.)

20B.2
Have you, your spouse, cohabitant, or any member of your immediate family in the past seven (7) years been asked to provide advice or serve as a consultant, even informally, by any foreign government official or agency? (Answer 'No' if all the advice or support was authorized pursuant to official U.S. Government business.)

20B.3
Has any foreign national in the past seven (7) years offered you a job, asked you to work as a consultant, or consider employment with them?

20B.4
Have you in the past seven (7) years been involved in any other type of business venture with a foreign national not described above (own, co-own, serve as business consultant, provide financial support, etc.)?

20B.5
Have you in the past seven (7) years attended or participated in any conferences, trade shows, seminars, or meetings outside the U.S.? (Do not include those you attended or participated in on official business for the U.S. government.)

20B.6
Have you or any member of your immediate family in the past seven (7) years had any contact with a foreign government, its establishment (such as embassy, consulate, agency, military service, intelligence or security service, etc.) or its representatives, whether inside or outside the U.S.? (Answer 'No' if the contact was for routine visa applications and border crossings related to either official U.S. Government travel or foreign travel on a U.S. passport.)

20B.7
Have you in the past seven (7) years sponsored any foreign national to come to the U.S. as a student, for work, or for permanent residence?

20B.8
Have you EVER held political office in a foreign country?

20B.9
Have you EVER voted in the election of a foreign country?
 
Why does President Trump have the most overwhelmingly pro-Russia policy positions since WW2? Why do his policy positions read like a "Kremlin wish list" (not my words, but that of the former acting head of the CIA)? Why did Russia choose only to hurt Hillary and help President Trump? Why did Flynn lie? Why did President Trump try to obstruct the investigation into Flynn? Why does President Trump still want Flynn to work in the white house?

There are answers to each of those questions that don't begin and end with Trump being a Russian agent. I could lay them out for you, but what would be the point?
 
Why does President Trump have the most overwhelmingly pro-Russia policy positions since WW2? Why do his policy positions read like a "Kremlin wish list" (not my words, but that of the former acting head of the CIA)? Why did Russia choose only to hurt Hillary and help President Trump? Why did Flynn lie? Why did President Trump try to obstruct the investigation into Flynn? Why does President Trump still want Flynn to work in the white house?

You mean like the reset button? That was the Obama administration.
 
There are answers to each of those questions that don't begin and end with Trump being a Russian agent. I could lay them out for you, but what would be the point?

I'm not arguing that the questions alone prove that he's a Russian agent, i'm arguing that the American public deserves an honest, non-partisan assessment of the situation.

From my view, the behavior is extremely suspicious, and i'm having a hard time coming up with an explanation for why anyone would want to quash the investigations other than fear that there is truth to them.
 
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