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Protest At Amazon Shareholder Meeting Planned Over Breitbart Ads

Chomsky said:
Haha!

Yeah, that wasn't lost on me when I was writing it.

But yes, there was a time when liberals stood strongly for free speech. I'm blown away and shocked to see what's happening on college campuses, where campuses used to be the bastions of free speech.

I think it shows where the common current meaning of the term "liberalism" has morphed to. Liberalism had its roots in the basics of freedom and liberty! The word "Liberal" is etymologically derived from the term "Liberty"! I'm old enough to remember when it did stand for freedom and liberty - particularly in relationship to a citizen's freedom and liberty from government interference! The good old days.

How far we've fallen ...
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I wish that more liberals would have the kind of self-honesty that your post shows.
 
The Alt Righties want to limit a business's activity in the free market?

That would make them anti-capitalism.
 
Chomsky said:
Haha!

Yeah, that wasn't lost on me when I was writing it.

But yes, there was a time when liberals stood strongly for free speech. I'm blown away and shocked to see what's happening on college campuses, where campuses used to be the bastions of free speech.

I think it shows where the common current meaning of the term "liberalism" has morphed to. Liberalism had its roots in the basics of freedom and liberty! The word "Liberal" is etymologically derived from the term "Liberty"! I'm old enough to remember when it did stand for freedom and liberty - particularly in relationship to a citizen's freedom and liberty from government interference! The good old days.

How far we've fallen ...
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Oh look, it's another person who thinks freedom of speech is only for the wealthy.
 
prometeus said:
Yes of course. His call and his right.
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Not only his right, but if he thinks advertising on Breitbart will improve the bottom line, it's his obligation.

The CEO of any corporation works only for the stockholders, not for the disillusioned peeking out from their safe spaces.
 
apdst said:
It isn't Conservatives rioting at public speaking events. Those are Liberals.
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I'm just holding you to your own standards.

Liberals were criticizing an action taken by a business and wanted that action to stop - this is allegedly "hating the free market."

And since you criticized that criticism, you must hate free speech.

See, apdst, turns out the free market includes criticizing a business for actions you don't approve of. I don't buy food from Chick-Fil-A. Now, you might think I made this choice because of their stance and actions on LGBT issues. Let's say that's true. So what? That's my freely made choice as a citizen of this country. And my freedom of speech allows me to express that disapproval. Why, I could even write them an angry letter.

Of course, the real reason is that I'm not a fan of fast-food fried chicken. I never ate their food before the LGBT controversy either. And that's yet another free market decision.

So, what is it about "liberal" free market choices you despise so much? Why is it so unfair to Amazon for someone to criticize their advertising choices? You people lost your **** when JC Penney put two dudes in an advertisement. Or do you not remember the "million mom" protest?

Did those "million" moms hate the free market? Are you willing to apply this standard you set to conservatives, or will you blatantly dodge this question?
 
Deuce said:
I'm just holding you to your own standards.

Liberals were criticizing an action taken by a business and wanted that action to stop - this is allegedly "hating the free market."

And since you criticized that criticism, you must hate free speech.

See, apdst, turns out the free market includes criticizing a business for actions you don't approve of. I don't buy food from Chick-Fil-A. Now, you might think I made this choice because of their stance and actions on LGBT issues. Let's say that's true. So what? That's my freely made choice as a citizen of this country. And my freedom of speech allows me to express that disapproval. Why, I could even write them an angry letter.

Of course, the real reason is that I'm not a fan of fast-food fried chicken. I never ate their food before the LGBT controversy either. And that's yet another free market decision.

So, what is it about "liberal" free market choices you despise so much? Why is it so unfair to Amazon for someone to criticize their advertising choices? You people lost your **** when JC Penney put two dudes in an advertisement. Or do you not remember the "million mom" protest?

Did those "million" moms hate the free market? Are you willing to apply this standard you set to conservatives, or will you blatantly dodge this question?
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These are Liberals protesting Amazon for advertising on Breitbart. And you want to whine about Conservatives? :lamo
 
Bucky said:
https://patch.com/washington/seattle/protest-amazon-shareholder-meeting-planned-over-breitbart-ads

I really do not understand the logic of this protest. So groups like Moveon.org and UltraViolet do not want a company to advertise to people to grow their business? Breitbart is one of the most trafficked website in the United States.

Why do these protesting groups hate democracy so much?
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My wife won't buy from Amazon anymore because they sell Ivanka Trump stuff. :shrug: Cuts both ways. Some clown here at work won't watch the Cavaliers anymore because LeBron James came out for Hillary. A friend of mine was rooting for the Nashville Predators, not because he likes the team, but because they were playing a team from Blue State California.

People are like that.
 
Deuce said:
Conservatives hate free speech.
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:lamo

What a hilarious projection, considering all the blathering about Hate Speech not being Protected Free Speech (it is), the trigger warnings, safe spaces, deplaforming shut them down leftists, antifa black blocs.

Yeah, you guys are champions of the 1st amendment. /s

Next you'll claim the Democrats are anti-gun control.
 
calamity said:
My wife won't buy from Amazon anymore because they sell Ivanka Trump stuff. :shrug: Cuts both ways. Some clown here at work won't watch the Cavaliers anymore because LeBron James came out for Hillary. A friend of mine was rooting for the Nashville Predators, not because he likes the team, but because they were playing a team from Blue State California.

People are like that.
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Why would you insult your wife like that?
 
apdst said:
Liberals hate the free market.
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There is absolutely nothing anti-market about private consumers putting pressure on private businesses and private shareholders. You couldn't get more wrong on a bet. That IS how a market polices itself absent the heavy hand of government regulation.
 
JasperL said:
There is absolutely nothing anti-market about private consumers putting pressure on private businesses and private shareholders. You couldn't get more wrong on a bet. That IS how a market polices itself absent the heavy hand of government regulation.
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So, it's just anti-free speech?
 
Bucky said:
https://patch.com/washington/seattle/protest-amazon-shareholder-meeting-planned-over-breitbart-ads

I really do not understand the logic of this protest. So groups like Moveon.org and UltraViolet do not want a company to advertise to people to grow their business? Breitbart is one of the most trafficked website in the United States.

Why do these protesting groups hate democracy so much?
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Goodness, that's also 180 degrees wrong. Protest is a core right of any functioning democracy.
 
apdst said:
These are Liberals protesting Amazon for advertising on Breitbart. And you want to whine about Conservatives? :lamo
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I'm pointing out your absurd double standard. You've completely forgotten that liberals have freedom of speech and freedom of the dollar. But you were right behind the "million" moms raging against JC Penney's advertising choices. You were totally fine with their "hatred of the free market," weren't you?

I never had a problem with the people boycotting JC Penney. It was their choice as Americans to do so. They weren't attacking free speech, they weren't anti-free market. They were making their own economic choice using the freedom we all enjoy. I disagreed with them, but never once did I whine about them being anti-free market. Unlike you, in this instance.
 
apdst said:
So, it's just anti-free speech?
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Criticizing your speech is not anti-free speech.

Something conservatives have never understood.
 
faithful_servant said:
Do you support their actions in suppressing a dissenting voice?? I think that we can agree with your sentiment, much the same as we can all agree that baby chicks are cute. The point here is about attempting to silence a voice of dissent, not about whether they should be allowed to protest, but whether their protest is one that we should be supporting or opposing. Do you support efforts to silence ideas you don't agree with??
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That's not a legitimate way to frame the issue, at all.

Let's just pick a less inflammatory example. Is it an effort to "silence a voice of dissent" if e.g. Goldman Sachs doesn't place ads on a radio program featuring an anti-banking, anti-Wall Street socialist? Of course not - the idea is absurd. GS has no obligation to support, reward, subsidize, a message with which it disagrees and is harmful to its business. How about if the website promoted kiddie porn? Again, the idea is absurd that it's wrong to protest Amazon SUPPORTING such a vile website by placing ads there and paying commissions to pedophiles.

Nothing different in principle here.... Do I sometimes in some cases support efforts to not REWARD ideas that I find harmful or dangerous or offensive - SURE! OF COURSE!!!

If the question is whether I'll join in a boycott of Amazon unless it quits advertising on Breitbart, the answer is no, I won't join that effort.
 
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