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Explosions in UK concert venue.[W:55, W:66, W:341, W:353]

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Risky Thicket said:
And they are saying the same thing.

I share your frustration, but as you well know modern America cut its teeth in asymmetrical warfare in Vietnam. Yeah maybe another 20 years we may have won a war of attrition in 'Nam. Same same now. We don't know who most of them are and we cannot kill them all and let God sort them out. That way creates more bad guys.

I don't have an answer but killing everything that looks like threat ain't it.
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Decent people all over the world, irrespective of religion and creed, are appalled by this. What has to happen, I believe, is for the families and the communities of individual terrorists to betray them.

Somebody, for example, who could make a difference knows where each of the remaining kidnapped Chibok girls is. Speaking up will take immense courage in the face of death, not just of one's self, but also one's family.
 
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ISIS claiming responsibility.
 
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Erod said:
These were little kids, dude. Shut up.
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So which is worse? Cracking jokes about it or using it as a political football to stir up hate? I think the political footballery is actually worse.
 
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Risky Thicket said:
And they are saying the same thing.

I share your frustration, but as you well know modern America cut its teeth in asymmetrical warfare in Vietnam. Yeah maybe another 20 years we may have won a war of attrition in 'Nam. Same same now. We don't know who most of them are and we cannot kill them all and let God sort them out. That way creates more bad guys.

I don't have an answer but killing everything that looks like threat ain't it.
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According to airwars, America killed more Syrian civilians than ISIS in March.

Since Trump, we have foregone many measures to be careful not to kill civilians.

We killed civilians under Obama too. But The Numbers I've seen are in the thousands since Trump took office.
 
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danarhea said:
So which is worse? Cracking jokes about it or using it as a political football to stir up hate? I think the political footballery is actually worse.
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His post has 2.2K likes. Dead kids. That's not political football. That's deranged.
 
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Winston said:
According to airwars, America killed more Syrian civilians than ISIS in March.

Since Trump, we have foregone many measures to be careful not to kill civilians.

We killed civilians under Obama too. But The Numbers I've seen are in the thousands since Trump took office.
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How does it go? An eye for an eye until everyone is blind.
 
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Carjosse said:
Yes but they turn to extremism due to lack of purpose and community, these points would help with that. It would also restrict access to extremist ideology. If you want to tackle the problem at the root you have to look at Saudi Arabia and the wealthy and influential men from other gulf states funding this extremism but no one wants to do that.
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The problem is that the ME is now here. Not by Saudi activity but by immigration. My vote is to make life thoroughly miserable for non-assimilators. We certainly should not be enabling them with subsidies such as welfare, food assistance and health care. We should profile, with a vengeance. When the communities learn that they cannot have it both ways they will out the radicals or deal with them in an appropriate manner.

If we just stand around like wet lumps, have moments of silence and politicians putting on a mournful face, we will get more of it.
 
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Risky Thicket said:
And they are saying the same thing.

I share your frustration, but as you well know modern America cut its teeth in asymmetrical warfare in Vietnam. Yeah maybe another 20 years we may have won a war of attrition in 'Nam. Same same now. We don't know who most of them are and we cannot kill them all and let God sort them out. That way creates more bad guys.

I don't have an answer but killing everything that looks like threat ain't it.
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The objective of warfare is to "destroy the enemy's will to resist". That is accomplished by "doing mor damage in less time than the enemy".

You were (are?) in the service. You should know that.
 
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akyron said:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ry3NzkAOo3s

Peaceful muslims are irrelevant until they stop supporting and enabling terrorists. Peaceful Germans were irrelevant as the nazis slaughtered many. Peaceful Russians enabled Stalin to slaughter many as well.

A committed minority can do a lot of damage if not opposed by their own.
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I don't disagree.
 
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Erod said:
His post has 2.2K likes. Dead kids. That's not political football. That's deranged.
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How do you know the likes aren't from russian trolls all over the Internet? Why the faux outrage over trump still being covered in an international trip?

Are all conservative posters to be blamed because some are playing sick politics using dead kids ?
 
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Winston said:
According to airwars, America killed more Syrian civilians than ISIS in March.

Since Trump, we have foregone many measures to be careful not to kill civilians.

We killed civilians under Obama too. But The Numbers I've seen are in the thousands since Trump took office.
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When we rev up the pressure on the enemy, you can expect more civilian casualties, since the jihadists use civilians as human shields.
 
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apdst said:
The objective of warfare is to "destroy the enemy's will to resist". That is accomplished by "doing mor damage in less time than the enemy".

You were (are?) in the service. You should know that.
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Why would you question his service with (are?) when you see his gold star, apdst? Image the victim card you'd play if a libbo dared question your service! Should all Connie posters be blamed tonight for those using dead kids as a sick political football ?
 
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NIMBY said:
How do you know the likes aren't from russian trolls all over the Internet? Why the faux outrage over trump still being covered in an international trip?

Are all conservative posters to be blamed because some are playing sick politics using dead kids ?
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Are you even human?
 
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Risky Thicket said:
And they are saying the same thing.

I share your frustration, but as you well know modern America cut its teeth in asymmetrical warfare in Vietnam. Yeah maybe another 20 years we may have won a war of attrition in 'Nam. Same same now. We don't know who most of them are and we cannot kill them all and let God sort them out. That way creates more bad guys.

I don't have an answer but killing everything that looks like threat ain't it.
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We weren't fighting Vietnam to win it. Can't win a war without going into the territory of the enemy. If we had done that it would have been over pretty quick.
 
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Erod said:
Are you even human?
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Erod asks me if I'm human after the posts he's made in this thread playing sick political politics with dead kids !
 
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Risky Thicket said:
How does it go? An eye for an eye until everyone is blind.
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Well, that's the whole thing, is the children of the Iraq War are now men. We've been bombing in Afghanistan, for 16 years. Any civilian you kill, I'd imagine creates at least 3 terrorists, that didn't exist before then. So, if America has killed 3,000 civilians this year, we also created about 9,000 terrorists since January.

Obviously that's not scientific but, it's a roughshod of talking to people who don't understand that America's involvement in the Syrian war is counterproductive. And from their perspective we are the enemy who brings death to their people.
 
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It will be my great pleasure to eviscerate this entire post :mrgreen: since that is the treatment it is due.

NIMBY said:
Since all liberals are the same.
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Your poorly chosen words, not mine. I was referring to 2 posters, who yes, are liberal, and have decided to make jokes about children being massacred in the UK only a few hours ago. Take your bull**** victim speech elsewhere NIMBY.

Just as I'm sure you're okay with being tagged with every disgraceful thing said by conservative posters.
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Irrelevant in light of what I just had to explain to you (which any 7th grader would have understood without difficulty.

Playing politics with death and war is the sickest thing any poster can do .
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Want to know what's even sicker? Denying that we have a problem with radical Islam on our hands. Wanna know why? Because by denying it, and instead lashing out at your political rivals, you're impeding our ability to stop more people from dying. That's right NIMBY, something you probably can't fathom, because foresight isn't an ability that you possess, is that more people will die, all over the west from radical Islam. And while were busy playing bull**** partisan politics in the USA, people from Islamic backgrounds are planning how to blow up little kids at an Ariana Grande concert.

Now make your jokes so your hack friends can laugh some more.
 
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NIMBY said:
Why would you question his service with (are?) when you see his gold star, apdst? Image the victim card you'd play if a libbo dared question your service! Should all Connie posters be blamed tonight for those using dead kids as a sick political football ?
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Because, Nimby, I don't know if he's still on active duty, in a reserve component, or has been seperated. That's why.

At no time did I question his service.
 
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Risky Thicket said:
And they are saying the same thing.

I share your frustration, but as you well know modern America cut its teeth in asymmetrical warfare in Vietnam. Yeah maybe another 20 years we may have won a war of attrition in 'Nam. Same same now. We don't know who most of them are and we cannot kill them all and let God sort them out. That way creates more bad guys.

I don't have an answer but killing everything that looks like threat ain't it.
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I beg to differ but we are not even remotely trying to kill them all. If we were, villages and cities were terrorists reside would be bombed into ruble and the land salted and the wells poisoned. There would be no life left after. The MOAB bombs wouldn't make the news because we would use them to wipe entre villages off the map on a routine basis. We are treating them with kid gloves. Believe me if we were actually putting real effort into hunting these bastards down, the entire middle east Iran and Pakistan included would not be saying death to America they would be keeping their mouths shut and offering up any terrorists they knew of just ensure their survival. We are the 800 pound gorilla in the room that acts like a statue that gets pissed on by every dog in that room. If we acted like the 800 pound gorilla people would be trying very hard not to piss us off and all the dogs would be hiding in the corner praying they don't get eaten.
 
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volsrock said:
Muslims get a Lib pass on mass killing,and hate for gays

They make excuses for them every time
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volsrock states that Muslims get a Lib pass on mass killing. volsrock states that Muslims get a Lib pass on hate for gays. volsrock states that Libs make excuses for Muslims every time. All of these statements are blatant irrational lies, volsrock.

When does volsrock think that the childish chicken**** chickenhawk alt-reich Aryan trump will begin to reuse his signature phrase of 'radical Islamic terrorist' now that he's done rimming the asses of Saudi Arabian radical Islamic terrorists that keep its women in slavery?

Good job ****ing over Israeli intelligence you stupid mother ****ing idiot trump and then bringing it up in front of Netanyahu. What a world-class self-important asshole trump is !
 
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nota bene said:
Decent people all over the world, irrespective of religion and creed, are appalled by this. What has to happen, I believe, is for the families and the communities of individual terrorists to betray them.

Somebody, for example, who could make a difference knows where each of the remaining kidnapped Chibok girls is. Speaking up will take immense courage in the face of death, not just of one's self, but also one's family.
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That isn't going to happen unless their hide is at stake as well as their families. They need to be put between a rock and hard place. They must be forced to move the rock so they can save their own skins. Otherwise this goes on until one side or the other gets tired of it.
 
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truthatallcost said:
It will be my great pleasure to eviscerate this entire post :mrgreen: since that is the treatment it is due. Your poorly chosen words, not mine. I was referring to 2 posters, who yes, are liberal, and have decided to make jokes about children being massacred in the UK only a few hours ago. Take your bull**** victim speech elsewhere NIMBY.
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Yours was the bull**** victim post, truthatallcost, trying to play the sick political football game using dead kids, an all too consistent tactic from conservative posters .
 
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Fishking said:
We weren't fighting Vietnam to win it. Can't win a war without going into the territory of the enemy. If we had done that it would have been over pretty quick.
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We never had the national will. All that "God, mom and apple pie" crap lasted maybe 2 weeks in-country and after that it was all too obvious no one knew why the hell we were there. In that regard I don't think it's much different in Afghanistan or the Sandbox.
 
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PirateMk1 said:
I beg to differ but we are not even remotely trying to kill them all. If we were, villages and cities were terrorists reside would be bombed into ruble and the land salted and the wells poisoned. There would be no life left after. The MOAB bombs wouldn't make the news because we would use them to wipe entre villages off the map on a routine basis. We are treating them with kid gloves. Believe me if we were actually putting real effort into hunting these bastards down, the entire middle east Iran and Pakistan included would not be saying death to America they would be keeping their mouths shut and offering up any terrorists they knew of just ensure their survival. We are the 800 pound gorilla in the room that acts like a statue that gets pissed on by every dog in that room. If we acted like the 800 pound gorilla people would be trying very hard not to piss us off and all the dogs would be hiding in the corner praying they don't get eaten.
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I think you misunderstood. My point was/is killing them all is not a solution.
 
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