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White House Moves to Block Ethics Inquiry Into Ex-Lobbyists on Payroll

Eric Holder, Lois Lerner, Loretta Lynch, Debbie Wasserman, Donna Brazile, Maxine Waters, Hillary Clinton, Anthony Wiener, etc, etc, etc....

And now you people are concerned about ethics?

LMAO

That's the most pathetically stupid defense i've ever seen. Many of those people survived these government watchdogs without this level of controversy.

At this point i have to ask- do you understand the topic of this thread?
 
He'll fire him if it's within his legal ability (I honestly don't know if he can), just as I believe he'll push Rosenstein to fire Mueller. And when he does we'll get some great quotes from Republicans declaring it to be "troubling."
I highly suspect he can fire him. No differently than firing Comey was within his Constitutional purview.

Now that doesn't mean there can't be extraneous consequence due to the circumstance of the firing (again, like Comey).
 
I highly suspect he can fire him. No differently than firing Comey was within his Constitutional purview.

Now that doesn't mean there can't be extraneous consequence due to the circumstance of the firing (again, like Comey).

All actionable consequences come from Congress. Consequences of optics are simply of no concern to Trump.
 
Typical bull**** excuses. Trump can do no wrong. "Drain the swamp"? Bull****.

what did he do wrong?
I don't see anything there that says he did anything.
 
what did he do wrong?
I don't see anything there that says he did anything.

Replace "Trump" with "Clinton" if that helps to lift the fog from in front of your eyes.
 
The Lesson learned from this is...

When Trump says things that seem unlikely, like "We're draining the swamp of government corruption."

And when Trump signs EO's that the Republican Party as a whole, does not approve of and does not like,

They are just pandering, and have no intentions of keeping their promise.

He does seem to use executive orders as press releases. Issue an EO and "there, promise kept" like how he's "banned" all Muslims.
 
Replace "Trump" with "Clinton" if that helps to lift the fog from in front of your eyes.

again what would have Clinton done wrong? I don't see anything there?
 
Connected to this story:



Trump?s Russia Scandal Is Becoming a Corruption Scandal

And this...





https://apnews.com/417c7e00c0274a3792e3262d22afaa8c

And combined with his steadfast refusal to show his tax returns, what you have is a picture of someone who really really really doesn't want people to look at the details of his business. Eventually somebody's going to force their way into his finances, and it's not going to look pretty.


I suspect he is terrified of anyone seeing the connections and interconnections with who he has been doing business.
 
thanks for showing you don't know. just more meme.

Trump promises to "drain the swamp". He hires a bunch of corporate lobbyists and DC insiders to his cabinet and to work for him in various positions. The Trump White House blocks disclosure of ethics waivers granted to former lobbyists who now work in the White House or various Federal agencies this making it impossible to know whether any such officials are violating federal ethics rules or have been given a pass to ignore them. Essentially blocking the Office of Government Ethics from doing its job.

 
Trump promises to "drain the swamp". He hires a bunch of corporate lobbyists and DC insiders to his cabinet and to work for him in various positions. The Trump White House blocks disclosure of ethics waivers granted to former lobbyists who now work in the White House or various Federal agencies this making it impossible to know whether any such officials are violating federal ethics rules or have been given a pass to ignore them. Essentially blocking the Office of Government Ethics from doing its job.

well unless there is something unethical going on there is no reason to ask for them is there?
I would reject any attempt at it as well unless the ethics committee has evidence of unethical behavior.

this is another Obama holdout that should have been fired day one.
I agree he should have drained the swamp of all of Obama's appointments on day one.

all presidents have handed out ethics waivers even Obama.
I didn't see you complaining then so I don't see why you are complaining now.

as I said just more anti-trump meme.
 
well unless there is something unethical going on there is no reason to ask for them is there?
I would reject any attempt at it as well unless the ethics committee has evidence of unethical behavior.
this is another Obama holdout that should have been fired day one.
Its called transparency. It has a long standing precedence. "Ms. Glynn, who worked in the office of government ethics for nearly two decades, said she had never heard of a move by any previous White House to block a request like Mr. Shaub’s. She recalled how the Bush White House had intervened with a federal agency during her tenure to get information that she needed."

I agree he should have drained the swamp of all of Obama's appointments on day one.
:roll: Yea! We should stop the Office of Government Ethics from doing its job because of OBAMA!
 
all presidents have handed out ethics waivers even Obama.
Yea and they handed them over to the Gov Ethics Office if requested and he also made the public. "Obama, unlike Mr. Trump, automatically made any such waivers public, offering detailed explanations."

I didn't see you complaining then so I don't see why you are complaining now.
:doh Trump refuses to make such waivers public. Government Ethics Office requests them, in an unprecedented move the Trump administration refuses to make them public and refuses to hand them over to the Government Ethics Office.

as I said just more anti-trump meme.
:lamo
Either you:
1.)Clearly dont understand the story or
2.)Papa Trump never does any wrong and now your are playing dull and somehow trying to blame this on Obama and even wrongly pivoting to Obama in an attempt to somehow make a justification and excuse for Trump
 
well unless there is something unethical going on there is no reason to ask for them is there?
I would reject any attempt at it as well unless the ethics committee has evidence of unethical behavior.

this is another Obama holdout that should have been fired day one.
I agree he should have drained the swamp of all of Obama's appointments on day one.

all presidents have handed out ethics waivers even Obama.
I didn't see you complaining then so I don't see why you are complaining now.

as I said just more anti-trump meme.

OK, let's start at the beginning with Trump EO 13770. You can read the whole thing, but the relevant sections are Section 1, parts 6. and 7. which read as follows:

6. I will not for a period of 2 years from the date of my appointment participate in any particular matter involving specific parties that is directly and substantially related to my former employer or former clients, including regulations and contracts.

"7. If I was a registered lobbyist within the 2 years before the date of my appointment, in addition to abiding by the limitations of paragraph 6, I will not for a period of 2 years after the date of my appointment participate in any particular matter on which I lobbied within the 2 years before the date of my appointment or participate in the specific issue area in which that particular matter falls. "

Sec. 3 has a waiver:

Sec. 3. Waiver. (a) The President or his designee may grant to any person a waiver of any restrictions contained in the pledge signed by such person.
(b) A waiver shall take effect when the certification is signed by the President or his designee.
(c) A copy of the waiver certification shall be furnished to the person covered by the waiver and provided to the head of the agency in which that person is or was appointed to serve.

There are also a bunch of enforcement provisions, but to enforce this EO requires the Office of Government Ethics (among others) to...know who is covered, what their previous lobbying activities entailed, and if POTUS or his designee granted a former lobbyist a waiver to the rules of the EO.

So the head of the Office of Government Ethics wants to know who has waivers. If you don't know who has waivers, it's impossible to enforce the EO, at which point it's just a bunch of words on paper that mean nothing. Trump says, NO, you can't know who has waivers! It's a secret!

FWIW, the "BUT OBAMA!!!" red herring is tired and predictable in any thread about Trump, but doesn't work because Obama made all the waivers public. The point is Trump is refusing to make his waivers available to the public or the Office of Government Ethics.
 
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That's the most pathetically stupid defense i've ever seen. Many of those people survived these government watchdogs without this level of controversy.

At this point i have to ask- do you understand the topic of this thread?

Drivel.

If you don't get the point, then I don't care.
 
What do you think of the optics of blocking the inquiry?

How'd you feel about the optics of wiretapping James Rosen? Of a tarmac meeting with the DoJ during the Hillary scandal? Of calling Trayvon "your son" during a murder investigation? Of IRS audits directed at conservative groups? Of the destruction of 30,000 emails?

You care nothing about optics. Please.
 
There's drip drip drip, because Trump and his cronies are all wet! And I don't say this facetiously. If they weren't dirty, there'd be nothing to see.

What is there to see? As soon as there is actual evidence, I'll listen up. So far...nothing.

There were MOUNTAINS of evidence against Hillary, and Democrats gleefully voted for her anyway. Even after the DNC and media cheated for her during the campaign. Even after the clear evidence was ignored, and Seth Rich magically disappeared. No big deal, I guess.

This is the greatest hypocrisy in American history. Period.

And fortunately, the nation sees it. While liberals are dancing in their big gay group hug, the United States of America is looking on in shame.

Everybody sees what's going on here.
 
Eric Holder, Lois Lerner, Loretta Lynch, Debbie Wasserman, Donna Brazile, Maxine Waters, Hillary Clinton, Anthony Wiener, etc, etc, etc....

And now you people are concerned about ethics?

LMAO

So you're saying "my dad can beat up your dad."
 
How'd you feel about the optics of wiretapping James Rosen? Of a tarmac meeting with the DoJ during the Hillary scandal? Of calling Trayvon "your son" during a murder investigation? Of IRS audits directed at conservative groups? Of the destruction of 30,000 emails?

You care nothing about optics. Please.

Thread is about Trump. Thank you. What do you think of the optics of Trump blocking the ethics inquiry?
 
Drivel.

If you don't get the point, then I don't care.

You didn't have any on-topic point. All you had was incoherent rambling about democrats.

Anyone can see how pathetic of a defense that is.
 
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