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Comey Will Testify In Open Session**[W:341]

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45 will be in Saudi Arabia soon. Things should be heating up soon. :cool:
 
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I don't think lack of intent was invented, but to take down a candidate for the presidency who let 4 emails slip by was not grounds for criminal offense and no harm was done. He was between a rock and a hard place. It had no affect on the election as I said before IMO

Perhaps not 'lack of intent' itself, but applying to the situation of Hillary's highly classified emails on her private email server, freely distributed to people without the proper security clearances, that is certainly an invention of Comey's (or maybe Lynch put him up to it to she wouldn't have to). Taken in contrast the case of US Navy sailor Kristian Saucier who is jailed for 1 year for taking a few candid photos of himself on his sub, which never left his phone, which he destroyed without any distribution.

One classified email is a violation of the Espionage Act.

Exactly.

Clearly, there is one type of law, and its application, for the Hillary while quite another for anyone else. What of the principal of 'equal before the law' ?
I guess that just gets chucked out the window. :2mad:
 
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Comey admitted, under oath, that no one pressured him to end any investigation. If he says, under oath again, that President Trump did do so, then Comey's in deep ****, because one of the testimonies is a lie.

Justice Department doesn't rely on Comey to tell them what the evidence shows, they look at what the evidence tells them. If they have the memos, it's their call, not Comey's. So Comey likely just "got that one wrong". No lie needed.
 
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Comey admitted, under oath, that no one pressured him to end any investigation.

If he says, under oath again, that President Trump did do so, then Comey's in deep ****, because one of the testimonies is a lie.

Fake News. Seriously. This is what really happened:

https://www.mediamatters.org/resear...rnet-trolls-try-discredit-comey-s-memo/216549

Comey Testified That Justice Department Never Asked FBI To Halt An Investigation; He Was Not Asked About President

Comey Said Neither Justice Department Nor Attorney General Has Halted Any FBI Investigations But Was Not Asked About The President. On May 3, Comey testified in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee on FBI oversight. Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-HI) said that she would like him “to clarify the FBI's independence from the DOJ apparatus” and asked, “If the Attorney General or senior officials at the Department of Justice opposes a specific investigation, can they halt that FBI investigation?” Comey responded that “a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason” “would be a very big deal. It's not happened in my experience.” From The Washington Post's transcript of the testimony:

SEN. MAZIE HIRONO (D-HI): Yes. And so speaking of the independence of not just the judiciary but I'd like you to clarify the FBI's independence from the DOJ apparatus. Can the FBI conduct an investigation independent from the department of Justice. Or does the FBI have to disclose all it's (sic) investigations to the DOJ? And does it have to get the Attorney General's consent?

COMEY: Well we work with the Department of Justice, whether that's main justice or U.S. attorney's offices on all of our investigations.

And so we work with them and so in a legal sense we're not independent of the department of justice. We are spiritually, culturally pretty independent group and that's the way you would want it. But yes, we work with the Department of Justice on all of our investigations.

HIRONO: So if the Attorney General or senior officials at the Department of Justice opposes a specific investigation, can they halt that FBI investigation?

COMEY: In theory yes.

HIRONO: Has it happened?

COMEY: Not in my experience. Because it would be a big deal to tell the FBI to stop doing something that -- without an appropriate purpose. I mean where oftentimes they give us opinions that we don't see a case there and so you ought to stop investing resources in it. But I'm talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason, that would be a very big deal. It's not happened in my experience. [The Washington Post, 5/3/17]



The bolded part was left out of the RW Fake News Sites, like Breitbart, etc.
 
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HIRONO: So if the Attorney General or senior officials at the Department of Justice opposes a specific investigation, can they halt that FBI investigation?
COMEY: In theory yes.
HIRONO: Has it happened?
COMEY: Not in my experience. Because it would be a big deal to tell the FBI to stop doing something that -- without an appropriate purpose. I mean where oftentimes they give us opinions that we don't see a case there and so you ought to stop investing resources in it. But I'm talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason, that would be a very big deal. It's not happened in my experience. [The Washington Post, 5/3/17]

So did President Trump suggest that you stop investigating Flynn, but stop short of telling you the words stop, or halt the investigation?
Yes.

Thanks.
 
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These Trumpeteers are a delusional lot. They actually think Trump has an ounce of credibility.

I know what they are thinking. Comey made up the memo to get Trump. The problem with that is that the Former FBI director was known for his impeccable note-taking. They would have to find at least 50 lies and made up memos just so that they can give credibility to this new conspiracy theory that came out of their camp in the first place.

The one who does that is Trump, not Comey.
 
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Fake News. Seriously. This is what really happened:

https://www.mediamatters.org/resear...rnet-trolls-try-discredit-comey-s-memo/216549

Comey Testified That Justice Department Never Asked FBI To Halt An Investigation; He Was Not Asked About President

Comey Said Neither Justice Department Nor Attorney General Has Halted Any FBI Investigations But Was Not Asked About The President. On May 3, Comey testified in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee on FBI oversight. Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-HI) said that she would like him “to clarify the FBI's independence from the DOJ apparatus” and asked, “If the Attorney General or senior officials at the Department of Justice opposes a specific investigation, can they halt that FBI investigation?” Comey responded that “a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason” “would be a very big deal. It's not happened in my experience.” From The Washington Post's transcript of the testimony:

SEN. MAZIE HIRONO (D-HI): Yes. And so speaking of the independence of not just the judiciary but I'd like you to clarify the FBI's independence from the DOJ apparatus. Can the FBI conduct an investigation independent from the department of Justice. Or does the FBI have to disclose all it's (sic) investigations to the DOJ? And does it have to get the Attorney General's consent?

COMEY: Well we work with the Department of Justice, whether that's main justice or U.S. attorney's offices on all of our investigations.

And so we work with them and so in a legal sense we're not independent of the department of justice. We are spiritually, culturally pretty independent group and that's the way you would want it. But yes, we work with the Department of Justice on all of our investigations.

HIRONO: So if the Attorney General or senior officials at the Department of Justice opposes a specific investigation, can they halt that FBI investigation?

COMEY: In theory yes.

HIRONO: Has it happened?

COMEY: Not in my experience. Because it would be a big deal to tell the FBI to stop doing something that -- without an appropriate purpose. I mean where oftentimes they give us opinions that we don't see a case there and so you ought to stop investing resources in it. But I'm talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason, that would be a very big deal. It's not happened in my experience. [The Washington Post, 5/3/17]



The bolded part was left out of the RW Fake News Sites, like Breitbart, etc.

I am always hesitant to post mediamatters, but in this case they are 100% on the ball. Laid out plain as day, Little RWNJ trolls aren't going to catch Comey in a lie.
 
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trump's daily tirades against Comey, such as the latest with 'nut job' and 'pressure removed' with his Russian buddies, could be taken care of in a few weeks. Though the WH could take this to court .

He is imploding at an alarming rate. I suspect he will be on his best behavior while on the overseas visit, he should enjoy it. At his current rate, he will not be doing a second one as CIC.
 
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I know what they are thinking. Comey made up the memo to get Trump. The problem with that is that the Former FBI director was known for his impeccable note-taking. They would have to find at least 50 lies and made up memos just so that they can give credibility to this new conspiracy theory that came out of their camp in the first place.

The one who does that is Trump, not Comey.

It has been all down hill since that Obama wiretapping claim, one disaster after another. I will not comment on some of the remarks the Liar in Chief made in regards to Comey, the man is extremely unprofessional.
 
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The man does love the spotlight, doesn't he?
(That was part of his problem as FBI director)

Yeah, that must be it. :roll:
 
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Fake News. Seriously. This is what really happened:

https://www.mediamatters.org/resear...rnet-trolls-try-discredit-comey-s-memo/216549

Comey Testified That Justice Department Never Asked FBI To Halt An Investigation; He Was Not Asked About President

Comey Said Neither Justice Department Nor Attorney General Has Halted Any FBI Investigations But Was Not Asked About The President. On May 3, Comey testified in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee on FBI oversight. Sen. Mazie Hirono (D-HI) said that she would like him “to clarify the FBI's independence from the DOJ apparatus” and asked, “If the Attorney General or senior officials at the Department of Justice opposes a specific investigation, can they halt that FBI investigation?” Comey responded that “a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason” “would be a very big deal. It's not happened in my experience.” From The Washington Post's transcript of the testimony:

SEN. MAZIE HIRONO (D-HI): Yes. And so speaking of the independence of not just the judiciary but I'd like you to clarify the FBI's independence from the DOJ apparatus. Can the FBI conduct an investigation independent from the department of Justice. Or does the FBI have to disclose all it's (sic) investigations to the DOJ? And does it have to get the Attorney General's consent?

COMEY: Well we work with the Department of Justice, whether that's main justice or U.S. attorney's offices on all of our investigations.

And so we work with them and so in a legal sense we're not independent of the department of justice. We are spiritually, culturally pretty independent group and that's the way you would want it. But yes, we work with the Department of Justice on all of our investigations.

HIRONO: So if the Attorney General or senior officials at the Department of Justice opposes a specific investigation, can they halt that FBI investigation?

COMEY: In theory yes.

HIRONO: Has it happened?

COMEY: Not in my experience. Because it would be a big deal to tell the FBI to stop doing something that -- without an appropriate purpose. I mean where oftentimes they give us opinions that we don't see a case there and so you ought to stop investing resources in it. But I'm talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason, that would be a very big deal. It's not happened in my experience. [The Washington Post, 5/3/17]



The bolded part was left out of the RW Fake News Sites, like Breitbart, etc.

Ruh ro. You just destroyed his little delusion.
 
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He is imploding at an alarming rate. I suspect he will be on his best behavior while on the overseas visit, he should enjoy it. At his current rate, he will not be doing a second one as CIC.

The GOP and its lawmakers from federal to state to local levels deserve no quarter forever after their blatant obstruction from 11/04/08.

DEMs must stay activated and resist every day over trump lies and behavior, trumpcare, trump tax cuts for the rich from Medicaid cuts, right wing social engineering and the rest of their regressive agenda.

DEMs must address their systemic problems with GOTV in midterms, deal with REDMAP 2010 and 2020, field good candidates in every race in the Nation, stop their damn Puritan tests from every wing, and have an utter sense of emergency over the next two election cycles before the 2021 redistricting .
 
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Perhaps not 'lack of intent' itself, but applying to the situation of Hillary's highly classified emails on her private email server, freely distributed to people without the proper security clearances, that is certainly an invention of Comey's (or maybe Lynch put him up to it to she wouldn't have to). Taken in contrast the case of US Navy sailor Kristian Saucier who is jailed for 1 year for taking a few candid photos of himself on his sub, which never left his phone, which he destroyed without any distribution.
Exactly.
Clearly, there is one type of law, and its application, for the Hillary while quite another for anyone else. What of the principal of 'equal before the law' ?
I guess that just gets chucked out the window. :2mad:

tds---trumpistani deflection syndrome to Hillary since you can't defend 586 trump lies in 120 days.

Better not check the latest Monmouth poll showing major cracks in the overflowing dam of swamp swamp swamp swamp trumpic ...
 
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I know what they are thinking. Comey made up the memo to get Trump. The problem with that is that the Former FBI director was known for his impeccable note-taking. They would have to find at least 50 lies and made up memos just so that they can give credibility to this new conspiracy theory that came out of their camp in the first place.

The one who does that is Trump, not Comey.

GOP lawmakers in 1974 were also stone-walling Watergate until they lost a special election.

Didn't help them launching Nixon though, since they got blown out in 11/05/1974 .
 
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I saw something identical in the beginning of the reuters artical cardinal posted about the white house trying to change ethics rules, in which both cases it is a person who understands how they think.

Are we seriously now past anonymous sources and using assumptions as proof, did no freakin person ever read the first paragraph of the article?
 
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Justice Department doesn't rely on Comey to tell them what the evidence shows, they look at what the evidence tells them. If they have the memos, it's their call, not Comey's. So Comey likely just "got that one wrong". No lie needed.

I am glad that has changed back to the way it is supposed to be.
 
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Well, not so fast there bucko.....If Comey now accuses the president of obstruction, he places himself in legal jeopardy for failing to promptly and properly report it.

Oh please are you that desperate?

It was an ongoing investigation. And he was the GD director of the FBI. If he wanted to continue to probe and document, that was his prerogitive.
 
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Comey admitted, under oath, that no one pressured him to end any investigation.

He was asked if he had an previous recollection of anyone pressuring an FBI director to end any investigation. He replied he did not.

So quit lying.
 
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He isn't going to say anymore than he did a couple weeks ago, because most of it's classified.

He won't have to say much. All they have to ask him is if what Trump says he said is true. And we all know the answer to that.
 
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