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Trump Tweet Suggests His Conversations With Comey Might Have Been Recorded

nota bene said:
Here's a thoughtful and alternative point of view whose title is "Stop Talking, President Trump": Trump?s Comey Tweets & Statements Are Digging a Bigger Hole | National Review
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Good article Nota....I especially liked, and agreed with this part here...

"[FONT=&quot]Democrats who are thrilled by Trump’s missteps need to remember that if they put all their eggs in the treason basket they are more likely than not to wind up with egg on their faces if investigations — whether carried out by the FBI, Congress, or whatever special commission or prosecutor is brought into life by the current furor — fail to prove a case against the president. But Republicans are also at risk of being sunk by a president whose big mouth is primarily responsible for inflating a minor story into a major scandal that won’t go away. Imploring Trump to act in a judicious manner is the equivalent of asking him to flap his arms and fly to the moon. But those who understand that the interests of the nation or of conservatism will not be advanced by a bogus push to brand Trump a traitor do need to tell him that he must learn to shut up. If he doesn’t, he will ultimately destroy his presidency and the party he leads."[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Read more at: Trump?s Comey Tweets & Statements Are Digging a Bigger Hole | National Review[/FONT]
 
Winston said:
it's illustrative of how short-sighted and stupid trump is. he basically told everyone in government agency he might resort to extortion.
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Uh huh....And if not, you libs will be sure to gin up enough faux outrage with the media echo chamber to make sure that the lie is repeated enough right?

expect morale to be at an all time low
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Among liberals I am not only expecting it, but relishing in it. :mrgreen:

who would want to work for that lunatic? trump is actually nuts.. like has a mental health condition.. which is why i support impeachment for obstruction of justice, before he has to handle any american crisis or creates one.
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Problem with you libs is that you let your hate get the better of you.
 
Risky Thicket said:
And after this you spend the remainder of the thread berating everyone who doesn't agree with you. I will once again call to your attention that not everyone who doesn't support Trump is a "hater" and many are not liberals.

You've created a new DP oxymoronic genre called "Civil Troll Thread".
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Whatever, I tried, early on in this thread...But, I can only take so much liberal BS before I break...I'm only human.
 
Moot said:
Oh, those mean liberals picking on poor little old Trump...just makes you wanna cry, doesn't it? :lamo
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Nah...I laugh my ass off every time one of the liberal nitwits in here posts the usual hate pablum....It really is illustrative of just how ignorant they really are.
 
Moot said:
Don't need a microscope....just watch the news. Not a day has gone by that Trump has doesn't done or said something to undermine or destroy this country. It's like slow death by a thousand pin pricks.
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Yep, and the only ones with lower approval ratings than liberal blowhards in congress, are the media.
 
poweRob said:
From what I understand, it's legal to record. But if there is questions, they can be subpeanoed as a matter of being public record. Now, with regards to how they record, I don't know if there are standards within the Presidential Records Act that prohibit certain ways of recording or do they have to be open and up front about it with whom they record?... That I'm not sure.
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Thanks Rob....Someone in here pointed out that every President since FDR has recorded WH meetings, and calls..Other than Clinton....But, that would lead me to believe that certain "one party" laws don't apply in the WH.
 
Trump is an embarrassment to America. What a travesty of a President.
 
j-mac said:
Nah...I laugh my ass off every time one of the liberal nitwits in here posts the usual hate pablum....It really is illustrative of just how ignorant they really are.
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Gee...kinda like your hateful posts, eh? :roll:
 
j-mac said:
Yep, and the only ones with lower approval ratings than liberal blowhards in congress, are the media.
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Did the media tell you that? Because the last time I checked the GOP congress still has lower approval ratings than Trump or Democrats.
 
It's perfectly legal.

First, Washington DC is a one-party consent state. That means you don't need consent to tape a conversation. In some states you do, in DC you don't. So anyone can tape anyone on the phone.

Second, even if it were illegal, the President couldn't be charged with a crime without first being impeached. Good luck with that.
 
Moot said:
Did the media tell you that? Because the last time I checked the GOP congress still has lower approval ratings than Trump or Democrats.
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Nope...Here's what a member of the media has to say about democrat's.....


"November 8, 2016, was the ultimate poll, and it saw Democrats lose the House, the Senate, the White House and seats in state houses across the country. But after Trump's first fifty days in office, the latest poll showed there was no rebound for Democrats. Donald Trump, who currently ranks as the most unpopular president in modern American history polled nine points ahead of the Democratic Party. And disapproval of Democrats was four points higher than Republicans.

Adding insult to injury, a new book is trending as Amazon.com's #1 best-seller titled, "Reasons to Vote for Democrats" by Michael Knowles. What is the book about? About 266 pages of blank paper.

Poll shows Democratic Party less popular than Trump | WJLA

Ouch...That's gotta sting...:lamo
 
j-mac said:
Good article Nota....I especially liked, and agreed with this part here...

"[FONT="]Democrats who are thrilled by Trump’s missteps need to remember that if they put all their eggs in the treason basket they are more likely than not to wind up with egg on their faces if investigations — whether carried out by the FBI, Congress, or whatever special commission or prosecutor is brought into life by the current furor — fail to prove a case against the president. But Republicans are also at risk of being sunk by a president whose big mouth is primarily responsible for inflating a minor story into a major scandal that won’t go away. Imploring Trump to act in a judicious manner is the equivalent of asking him to flap his arms and fly to the moon. But those who understand that the interests of the nation or of conservatism will not be advanced by a bogus push to brand Trump a traitor do need to tell him that he must learn to shut up. If he doesn’t, he will ultimately destroy his presidency and the party he leads."[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=#000000][FONT="]Read more at: Trump?s Comey Tweets & Statements Are Digging a Bigger Hole | National Review[/FONT]
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I agree. Trump is his own worst enemy. I just couldn't believe his Twitterstorm last week including Rosie O'Donnell. It's called "gravitas," Mr. President.
 
I don't think Comey was recorded at all. I think Trump said that because he realizes how similar things are turning out between his presidency and Nixon's. So, he makes this crazy Tweet perhaps as one-part humor, one-part throwing folks off balance.

Not that I'm defending him. I just don't think such recording exist. But on the off chance that Pres. Trump has been recording conversations that take place in the White House but no recording of Comey declaring that the President isn't under investigation exist, this will only add fuel to the speculative fire concerning collusion with Russia. So, in a way Trump's statement could end up backfire on him. He might have been better off keeping his mouth shut (which we all know is virtually impossible for the man).
 
Sean Spicer was asked again today about if the White House will either confirm or deny that conversations in the White House are recorded. Spicer's response - at least three times - was to say "The president has said all he intends to say on this." The press is asking because Trump himself put the possibility of secret White House tape-recordings in the public domain:

Donald J. Trump ✔
@realDonaldTrump
James Comey better hope that there are no "tapes" of our conversations before he starts leaking to the press!
7:26 AM - 12 May 2017
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According to different sources, Trump did indeed secretly tape record conversations at Trump Tower. With Spicer's answer, a few scenarios are possible. (1) Trump is using ambiguity as a coercive tool. Trump bluffed and no White House tapes exist. Trumps tweet was a sophomoric public attempt to bully Mr. Comey that will yield disastrous consequences for the president. You can bet that the Emir of the UAE, who visited the White House this morning, uttered absolutely nothing in the Trump White House beyond pro-forma niceties. This is how it will be from now on whenever US officials, military officers, US legislators, and foreign dignitaries visit with Trump anywhere on his turf. Everyone will [must] assume that Trump is recording every word. (2) A taping system does exist with content that is politically lethal on many different levels. Trump would fight court battles to keep subpoenaed secret tapes in his sole possession, although any such tapes legally belong to the Archivist of the United States under the Presidential Records Act of 1978. Executive privilege does not extend to any White House documents and/or communications that have archival significance.

It seems that Trump mistakenly believes (hopes?) the press will tire of digging for information regarding secret White House tapes if he continues to stonewall by refusing to clarify. This is a grievous mistake.
 
Neither here nor there: If I was President, I would think that it would be a good idea for there to be a record of all official functions so that there never was a 'he said-she said' situation. Comey being a long term DoJ employee should have a fair expectation of being recorded in the White House, especially since DC is a 'one party consent' jurisdiction. I learned about DC law as a result of the controversy. I would have thought that both parties would have to consent to recordings conversation and meetings, but different jurisdictions, different laws.
 
Trump probably can legally record White House conversations, but Trump doesn't legally own any such recordings.

Unless Trump is willing to produce any alleged recording of Mr. Comey, his tweet threat is empty, pointless, and injurious.

With Trumps attempt at crass coercion and his obsessive loyalty issues, no one (with any common sense) will speak openly and frankly at the White House. Not even Republicans would chance a notorious Trump flip-flop.
 
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