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Geoist said:
Except Sessions is not like some judge reluctantly handing out a mandatory sentence even though he/she disagrees with the law. He is a drug war crusader. He pushed these backwards laws for as long as he was in Congress.
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OMG! Sessions is doing exactly what was expected of him. ;)
 
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DA60 said:
Great. Some useless dinosaur who wouldn't know the first thing about illegal drugs if his life depended on it.

Okay...so this moron wants to do what...throw people in jail for life for being caught smoking a joint a few times? Oh that's id you useless prick...take harmless people who just want to get a little high and ruin their entire lives (at taxpayer expense) and then probably turn them into hardened criminals.
Yeah, that is a great use of precious law enforcement resources. Forget about stopping murderers and rapists...let's get the 18 year old pot smoker.

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Hey you dufus...shut the hell up and recuse yourself from this as well.

Idiot.
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Sounds like you are having a bad day... Tip smoke a joint you will feel better and according to the left is the cure for all the worlds problems. Cheers

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Partsguy57 said:
Sounds like you are having a bad day... Tip smoke a joint you will feel better and according to the left is the cure for all the worlds problems. Cheers

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Naaa...I don't like pot. Makes me paranoid.

Crack was my drug of choice. But I stopped using that in '02.
 
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Geoist said:
It is only a crime because there are dumb laws making it a crime. But you conservatives cannot fathom the idea of reform.
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And you on the left pushing the chick with a dick in our daughters bathrooms/locker rooms as normal?? The lefts idea of reform amoung many others.... Thanks but no thanks

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Erod said:
Yep, and half of New Hampshire is heroin dependent, so thanks, liberals!

Sessions wants to get tough on crime, and liberals protest. Shocking.

Illegal immigration is down 70 percent, by the way. You're losing on every front.
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Yup...Trump's economy is just bursting at the seems with growth:

'The U.S. economy turned in the weakest performance in three years in the January-March quarter as consumers sharply slowed their spending.'

U.S. economic growth weakened to 0.7 per cent in first quarter - Business - CBC News

His first quarter in office, and the economy stinks the most in three years.


Once again, I have ZERO loyalty to any political party or movement.
 
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jmotivator said:
Good question. Should we abolish the FDA?
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Whether it is meat, produce, or weed, if it is being shipped across state lines then it is subject to federal regulations according to the Constitution. If I decide to eat bad meat in my home, the feds aren't going to bust done my door, but if I grow a certain plant...

So please explain how the two are in any way comparable.
 
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Tettsuo said:
No, Sessions wants to put people in jail for smoking marijuana while ignoring the drug companies that make the worst of the worst drugs that are actually killing thousands every year.
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The drug companies are opening your mouth and stuffing it down your throat??

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Geoist said:
But, but, but... Commerce Clause!
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The tortured interpretation of that "clause" needs to be taken behind the shed and shot.
 
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Fishking said:
Depends on how you define conservative in regards to U.S. history.
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One thing is for certain with this administration...

They have no regard for history.
 
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<alt>doxygen said:
Is the "drug war" constitutional? Beyond policing borders, I don't believe it is. Declaring a plant you can easily grow in your house illegal is just silly.
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Going off of precedent, the federal government had to pass a constitutional amendment to make alcohol illegal and then pass another one to repeal it and make it legal again. Why'd they need an amendment if they already had the authority to do so?
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
OMG! Sessions is doing exactly what was expected of him. ;)
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This just in...

We already lost the war on drugs.
 
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Nilly said:
Sessions orders return to tough drug war policies that trigger mandatory minimum sentences - LA Times



Derp. How about a mandatory minimum sentencing for lying to congress??

Anyway, let's see just how much more money we can waste on the war on drugs.

What's a little surprising to me is that now that drug abuse is becoming an issue for white people as well as black people (primarily through opioid addiction), we have seen far more of those on the republican side of the aisle take up the stance that drug addiction is a medical rather than criminal issue. More and more of the political or rich class know or knew someone with a drug issue, which has seen us frame the latest opioid issue as an epidemic with drug victims rather than a war against drug abusers.

https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/4/4/15098746/opioid-heroin-epidemic-race

LEAD - About LEAD

I would have hoped that this turnaround would extend to our justice department, but with Sessions (who has historically been very tough on drugs) I guess not. We've made good strides in the last few years towards a much smarter approach to drug addiction. Looks like we'll be set back a few.
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I wonder if Sessions realizes that his stance on mandatory minimums disproportionately affects the minority population that he's accused of being a racist towards?
 
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Partsguy57 said:
Sounds like you are having a bad day... Tip smoke a joint you will feel better and according to the left is the cure for all the worlds problems. Cheers

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Really? Fascinating. When did 'the left' ever claim that?

Please be very specific.
 
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Top Cat said:
One thing is for certain with this administration...

They have no regard for history.
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Nope. I don't think Trump knows much about it, at least.
 
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Just what we need. To put more people, who are no threat to anyone, in jail for longer stretches of time. ****ing morons.

If we want to jail people how about we jail people who actually pose a threat to other people. How about we treat low level dealers, who generally don't hurt people, as misdemeanor offenders and users as medical problems?
 
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Top Cat said:
This just in...

We already lost the war on drugs.
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Yep, and the war on poverty too. Bigger government is not the answer to all problems.
 
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Geoist said:
Whether it is meat, produce, or weed, if it is being shipped across state lines then it is subject to federal regulations according to the Constitution. If I decide to eat bad meat in my home, the feds aren't going to bust done my door, but if I grow a certain plant...

So please explain how the two are in any way comparable.
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Good question. What are your thoughts on Wickard v. Filburn?
 
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ttwtt78640 said:
OMG! Sessions is doing exactly what was expected of him. ;)
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No, we've been moving towards lighter sentences for simple possession.

Does Sessions realize his stance on mandatory minimums disproportionately affects the minority population that he's accused of being a racist towards?

Also, did you see private prisons stocks jumped considerably after Trump's win. This is the opposite of where we need to go as a country. Building more private prisons to house immigrants and drug users is destructive and immoral.

Mandatory minimums are immoral, not drug use. Sessions proves again he's a small minded bigot.
 
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jmotivator said:
Good question. Should we abolish the FDA?
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That's a separate question.

The DEA creates drug classifications which effectively prevent the FDA from testing some of them. That is yet another issue.

I really look at this subject in a cost/benefit light. Laws should make sense. This "war" costs taxpayers a lot of money, creates a class of criminals who, because they have records for what in reality are trivial offenses at best can't get jobs and thus go back through the prison mill. The profit motives of private corporations and the desire of parts of people in the government that want to keep their jobs and get more money every year are easy to see. So is the abject failure of the policy itself.

There are some drugs like weed which have been shown by less anal countries (Israel is one) to have medical benefits, but the FDA can't test them because the DEA wants to keep the war going, for obvious reasons.
 
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We need to have a dope smoking sit-in around Sessions place combined with an awareness campaign regarding jury nullification. That way he can be constantly annoyed by the smell of marijuana smoke and the offenders never actually get convicted.
 
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<alt>doxygen said:
That's a separate question.

The DEA creates drug classifications which effectively prevent the FDA from testing some of them. That is yet another issue.

I really look at this subject in a cost/benefit light. Laws should make sense. This "war" costs taxpayers a lot of money, creates a class of criminals who, because they have records for what in reality are trivial offenses at best can't get jobs and thus go back through the prison mill. The profit motives of private corporations and the desire of parts of people in the government that want to keep their jobs and get more money every year are easy to see. So is the abject failure of the policy itself.
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I don't support for-profit private prisons, I think they should be abolished. The DEA doesn't prevent the FDA from doing anything. Also, the Controlled Substances Act is responsible for drug classifications, not the DEA.

There are some drugs like weed which have been shown by less anal countries (Israel is one) to have medical benefits, but the FDA can't test them because the DEA wants to keep the war going, for obvious reasons.
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Wrong
 
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Partsguy57 said:
The drug companies are opening your mouth and stuffing it down your throat??

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Nope, and neither are drug dealers. What's your point?
 
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Top Cat said:
One thing is for certain with this administration...

They have no regard for history.
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I'm actually wondering if this is another Trump troll session to get people all outraged and distracted.
 
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jmotivator said:
Good question. What are your thoughts on Wickard v. Filburn?
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You didn't ask me but I'll answer. It's a piece of ****. Arguably the largest, smelliest, most disgusting piece of **** the supreme court ever served up.
 
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Fishking said:
Going off of precedent, the federal government had to pass a constitutional amendment to make alcohol illegal and then pass another one to repeal it and make it legal again. Why'd they need an amendment if they already had the authority to do so?
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Then they should need to do the same with drugs in general. Pass a constitutional amendment to ban them.

The alcohol ban basically created the mafia. We should have learned from that experience. To this day, alcohol and tobacco are the worst killers when it comes to drugs.
 
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