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House Passes Measure to Repeal and Replace the Affordable Care Act

It's what the GOP house just did with this bill, Bucky, and DEMs will play the exact same 2010 playbook that GOPs played .

So, what is the Dem's plan? To bankrupt America, cause another economic collapse?

Democrats have been responsible for two great depressions in our countries history. Many jobs were lost and people's finances were completely wiped out.
 
You are wishing people to get sick and die? Now that is sick Praxas.

Just wishing thosenfolks to be placed in the same position as those with pre existing conditions. Said nothing about wishing them dead so peddle your bulk**** elsewhere. Maybe if you or your family gets affected by this eventually you'll see what we have to go through. Until then you have a "I got mine, **** you all"'attitude.
 
Right. "Reagan cut taxes and that is (somehow) screwing millennials" Honestly, I don't know how to argue against something so dumb. I suppose I could ask why 16 years of democrat presidents could undo the evils of Reagan, but I am certain I would not get a coherent response.

Fletch, you are purposefully not seeing this correctly. Clinton already cleaned up Reagan's mess by correcting his errors in fiscal policy. But, Reagan set the tone for the disaster of cutting taxes, increasing spending, and then blaming everything on Democrats. It's supply side economics that extracts money out of our economy and stores it in rich peoples bank account where it's multiplier is sterilized.

But, I do understand needing to crosstalk and passively aggresively bash my logic.
 
do you talk rationally with people who threaten the lives and health of your family? No, they are the enemy plain and simple. Those republicans can burn in hell along with their supporters. **** them all.

The phrase 'hate-filled leftist' has become redundant.
 
I think you're pulling my leg with your fantasy arguments of rationed healthcare. Conservatives have the weakest fairy dust arguments on single-payer healthcare.

Ok. I guess you're not pulling my leg.

Fairy dust? I have posted links. It's not my opinion, it's theirs.

What kind of fairy dust allows you to ignore what is written there?

The harsh reality that sadly has been hidden from socialist Progressives is that there are winners and losers in life. The "everyone gets a pat on the back for breathing" mumbo jumbo has done nothing to help you embrace all that life has to offer. It's only done the opposite. That's truly a shame.

Good luck with the walls you will be encountering. Unfortunately, you haven't been given many tools to get over them, just tag lines to complain how tall they appear.
 
So, what is the Dem's plan? To bankrupt America, cause another economic collapse?

Democrats have been responsible for two great depressions in our countries history. Many jobs were lost and people's finances were completely wiped out.

You guys have never problem writing blank checks for endless wars but scoff at actually helping Americans who aren't have pre existing conditions. So spare me the "fiscal conservatism"'when you guys don't really support that at all. You would just rather invest in killing than saving.
 
So, what is the Dem's plan? To bankrupt America, cause another economic collapse?

Are DEMs in power?

Democrats have been responsible for two great depressions in our countries history. Many jobs were lost and people's finances were completely wiped out.

GOPs get the Great Depression in the 1930s. GOPs get the Great Recession from Bush-43. I see yer history challenged .
 
Bill Clinton already cleaned up Reagan's mess. But, Reagan set the tone that followed. And we haven't been able to shake the supply side spectre yet. You think it's the welfare state that is sucking off the system. I think it's the 1%. That's the major difference in our arguments. I happen to have facts and numbers on my side, you have platitudes and pedestals.

I learned long ago that it's a fools errand to debate with a fully engaged socialist progressive.

Good luck with the future. It's going to be very different than what the propaganda you've bought has promised.
 
Idle points:

Trump just said Australia had better health care than the US does. Who says he lies?

Buying across state lines? Yea, let the race to the bottom begin.

Return Medicaid to the states? No offense to the good people in conservative states, but given their record on voting rights, can't wait to see the compassionate for the poor and sick they will demonstrate.

The senate won't accept this bill. Guaranteed.

Will they have hearings, as the House didn't?

Of course, they painted themselves into a corner, pledging repeal, but doing nothing other than that. For those republicans out there, why didn't they come up with a plan and campaign on it? "Here is Obama's useless plan, and here is our better plan." Over the years they could have had town halls to build support, revising as necessary.

All commentators as saying they are going to get crucified on this. Then again, all these folks thought Hillary would win.
 
What business is it of yours, vesper, where another poster lives? I don't see yers LISTED .
I definately won't say, because it remains unreported. It was dealt with behind the scenes.

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The phrase 'hate-filled leftist' has become redundant.

You mean 'hate-filled rightists' taking a trillion from Medicaid, throwing 24 million off insurance, and giving the savings to the top 2% in tax cuts who don't need it .
 
Fletch, you are purposefully not seeing this correctly. Clinton already cleaned up Reagan's mess by correcting his errors in fiscal policy. But, Reagan set the tone for the disaster of cutting taxes, increasing spending, and then blaming everything on Democrats. It's supply side economics that extracts money out of our economy and stores it in rich peoples bank account where it's multiplier is sterilized.

But, I do understand needing to crosstalk and passively aggresively bash my logic.

No, I will bash your (lack of) logic straight up. Allowing people to keep more of what they earn does NOT extract money from our economy. That is just nonsense. Taxation extracts money from the economy. What you want is what every leftist wants--distributive equality. You don't really give a crap about prosperity or economic growth. If you want to know the truth, millennials are being screwed over by the very people they think are helping them. We have become MORE socialist since Reagan left office, not less. And by a factor of ten.
 
You mean 'hate-filled rightists' taking a trillion from Medicaid, throwing 24 million off insurance, and giving the savings to the top 2% in tax cuts who don't need it .

That's not hate there, sport. That may be bad policy (if anything you wrote were actually true and not just hate-fueled rage) but not hate. The hate rests 100% on your side.
 
The phrase 'selfish libertarian' has become redundant.

I am not offended by the term one bit. I seek that which serves my best interest. Just like you. The difference is I am honest about it.
 
I definately won't say, because it remains unreported. It was dealt with behind the scenes.

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The good news is that GOP senators are starting over with the process of writing a health care bill, ignoring zombie trumpcare .
 
30 years old

Thank you. My point was that I doubt you were even alive during Reagans term so all you have to go by is the propaganda you have swallowed. I am 54, so I was a 'millenial' during the Reagan years. Somehow, I didn't get screwed, but 30 years later, modern millennials are. That just makes zero sense, sorry.
 
The good news is that GOP senators are starting over with the process of writing a health care bill, ignoring zombie trumpcare .

And I am sure you will be thrilled with the results... :roll: I suspect that what will come out of the senate will be better than what came out of the House simply because the senate is a more rational body. But I doubt it will be as different as you believe.
 
That's not hate there, sport. That may be bad policy (if anything you wrote were actually true and not just hate-fueled rage) but not hate. The hate rests 100% on your side.

There is no such thing as one side is 100% hate-filled, Fletch, showing Debate Politucs what you're all about .
 
I won't divulge that.

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I fail to understand why you refuse to identify your state that has been involved in such fraud.

Here's a list of the type of fraud and abuse within the Medicaid system which extends to patient fraud, insurer fraud and provider fraud


Billing for services not performed
Billing duplicate times for one service
Falsifying a diagnosis
Billing for a more costly service than performed
Accepting kickbacks for patient referrals
Billing for a covered service when a noncovered service was provided
Ordering excessive or inappropriate tests
*Prescribing medicines that are not medically*necessary or for use by people other than the patient
Filing a claim for services or products not received
Forging or altering receipts
Obtaining medications or products that are not needed and selling them on the black market
Providing false information to apply for services
Doctor shopping to get multiple prescriptions
Using someone else's insurance coverage for services
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Overstating the insurer's cost in paying claims
Misleading enrollees about health plan benefits
Undervaluing the amount owed by the insurer to a health care provider under the terms of its contract
Denying valid claims

Like I stated before with Medicaid being block granted to each state with that comes with real responsibility and accountability of the state to take care of those who are most in need. If that doesn't happen in your state then it is time to clean house and find those who will operate justly.
 
I am not offended by the term one bit. I seek that which serves my best interest. Just like you. The difference is I am honest about it.

Proving that the right really doesn't care about Americans at all just themselves. This is why republicans will eventually be out of power because they lied about helping he poor and middle class. Can't keep lying to the poor or sick telling them it's raining while you piss on them. **** the republicans and their supporters.
 
Yes because 24 million people lost their healthcare because of Obamacare.

Oh wait.

First off, that's an outright lie and you know it. Losing insurance does not mean losing healthcare. Secondly, Obamacare didn't cover everyone they said they did. Many didn't get coverage and many lost coverage. Not everyone is as stupid as you think. Have a nice day.
 
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