FBI Director Comey Says Classified Clinton Emails Were Forwarded to Anthony Weiner

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ttwtt78640 said:

Yep, let the trial begin.

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Be careful what you wish for.

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Mr Person said:

I don't know how anyone could conclude that Comey is somehow in the tank for Clinton. He announces the reopening what....ten days before the election? Gee, great guy to have on one's own team.

Your first statement is accidentally true though: SEVEN investigations in congress plus an FBI investigation over an email server, and no evidence of criminal acts uncovered. I've never seen anything like that.

You didn't mean that, of course. You think she was treated too well, even though nobody has disproven the FBI's statements that it only prosecuted individuals with aggravating circumstances, not anyone in her case. But you've got to keep saying it, because you guys used the email crap to smear her and justify your decision to elect a dangerously spastic and mentally damaged man-child.

I wouldn't want to admit I'd screwed up that bad, either. But I would anyway.

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I just accept it as the O.J. Simpson trial at the federal good ol's boys level. And BTW, I doubt you are any more privy to the true story and the actual facts of the investigation than I am. Comey flat out did not want to be the FBI director to indict a major party head running for President.

History will tell, but if Hillary would just go away she would be doing everyone, especially the democrats, a favor.

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Mr Person said:

Then you, ttwwtt, and hanger should band together and get an Assistant United States Attorney to file charges. They don't need the FBI's permission to seek indictment.

Lying on DP isn't going to put Clinton in jail, y'know.

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You affirmed intent was needed to prove "gross negligence", if so;

"Gross negligence is a conscious and voluntary disregard of the need to use reasonable care"

Gross negligence legal definition of gross negligence

HRC intentionally setup her server to skirt congressional oversight and FOIA requests knowing it was not a "proper place of custody" for State Dept business nor classified material whereby committing "gross negligence". Comey was wrong, an indictment should have been issued in pursuant of 18 U.S. Code § 793 (f) of the Espionage Act.

Comey allowed politics to trump rule of law.

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joG said:

He said they could not demonstrate mens rea for any of the participants, so he could not advise to prosecute.
He made a good impression.

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High Jack there were two huge headlines that came out of today's hearing. One about Comey's reasons for closing the case on Huma Weiner and the round robin excuses he gave parodied the same excuses he made for Clinton and her recklessness in dealing with sensitive information. The other was the knowledge disclosed that there is an email written by Loretta Lynch that she would do everything in her power to make sure Hillary would not face criminal charges. Both these issues are tied together as it reveals in both instances Comey's willingness and Loretta Lynch's desire to find some loophole or overreach of the law to make sure Clinton or her comrades didn't face any charges.

I watched the hearings and I didn't see what you did, he (Comey) did not make a good impression. By the time Sen. Grassley and Sen. Cruz got done with him he had a lot of splainin to do.

Did you watch the entire hearing? I recommend anyone seeking truth do so. When it got to Sen. Cruz, He started off being puzzled after Comey described what Huma Weiner had done while recognizing it was unlawful yet found no reason to charge her with wrong doing because Huma didn't think she was doing anything wrong.

Cruz reminded him that even a first year law student understands that ignorance of the law is no excuse. He quoted two statutes that clearly show Huma Weiner guilty.
18USC793F and 18USC798A. Comey's response was lame and a dance around the Senate Floor. So Cruz came back with if Comey found out someone in his department sent classified info to their spouse to print it out for them what would he do? Comey said at the very least a harsh reprimand. Really?

So I disagree, Comey did not make a good impression today.

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Jack Hays said:

I wonder how this will affect the narrative now.


FBI Director Comey says classified Clinton emails were forwarded to Anthony Weiner
Emails from Hillary Clinton containing classified information were forwarded to former congressman Anthony Weiner, the director of the FBI testified as he defended his handling of politically sensitive probes surrounding the 2016 presidential race. Weiner, a New York Democrat, was married to a top aide to Clinton, Huma Abedin.

• By Devlin Barrett and Karoun Demirjian

• Full transcript of Comey's testimony

Hillary Clinton emails containing classified information were forwarded to former congressman Anthony Weiner, the director of the FBI testified Wednesday as he defended his handling of politically sensitive probes surrounding the last year’s presidential race.
Under questioning from the senior Democrat on the committee, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), James B. Comey revealed more details about how Clinton’s emails ended up on Weiner’s computer.
Weiner, a New York Democrat, was married to a top aide to Clinton, Huma Abedin. Weiner was being investigated separately for possible inappropriate communications with a minor.
[Read the full testimony of FBI Director James Comey]
“Somehow, her emails were being forwarded to Anthony Weiner, including classified information,” Comey said, adding later, “His then-spouse Huma Abedin appears to have had a regular practice of forwarding emails to him for him to print out for her so she could deliver them to the secretary of state.”. . . .

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Doesn't change anything, it's so obviously just stupid political bull**** at this point.

Comey didn't recommend any charges against Abedin. His opinions of her alleged non-criminal behavior is wholly inappropriate for a supposedly independent investigator to comment on. Generally, when no charges are recommended, the FBI doesn't do political character assassination. At least that was the case until this generation of cowardly republicans took control.

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Removable Mind said:

Listening to Clinton's aftermath comments today it was "everybody else's fault that she lost. That's nonsense. She made fatal errors before and during her campaign. Period!

Comey made some poor calls as well...basically around the timing of his disclosures.

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I don't disagree. I just think sometimes we have to pick our battles and focus on what will matter the most now and in the future. And punishing Hillary just isn't high on my list of priorities right now.

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NIMBY said:

Republicans don't care about Russia attacking our election process since their guy won .

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This.

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Jack Hays said:

I wonder how this will affect the narrative now.


FBI Director Comey says classified Clinton emails were forwarded to Anthony Weiner
Emails from Hillary Clinton containing classified information were forwarded to former congressman Anthony Weiner, the director of the FBI testified as he defended his handling of politically sensitive probes surrounding the 2016 presidential race. Weiner, a New York Democrat, was married to a top aide to Clinton, Huma Abedin.

• By Devlin Barrett and Karoun Demirjian

• Full transcript of Comey's testimony

Hillary Clinton emails containing classified information were forwarded to former congressman Anthony Weiner, the director of the FBI testified Wednesday as he defended his handling of politically sensitive probes surrounding the last year’s presidential race.
Under questioning from the senior Democrat on the committee, Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.), James B. Comey revealed more details about how Clinton’s emails ended up on Weiner’s computer.
Weiner, a New York Democrat, was married to a top aide to Clinton, Huma Abedin. Weiner was being investigated separately for possible inappropriate communications with a minor.
[Read the full testimony of FBI Director James Comey]
“Somehow, her emails were being forwarded to Anthony Weiner, including classified information,” Comey said, adding later, “His then-spouse Huma Abedin appears to have had a regular practice of forwarding emails to him for him to print out for her so she could deliver them to the secretary of state.”. . . .

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I am completely confused as to how she's not being charged with perjury and obstruction of justice. She was told to hand over all work-related emails and they found new ones on Anthony "Pederast" Weiner's laptop of all places, proving she didn't hand all of them over.

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NIMBY said:

Republicans don't care about Russia attacking our election process since their guy won .

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Sorry, but only Americans voted in the election and they didn't vote for Hillary. Russia had nothing to do with it.

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ttwtt78640 said:

It goes much deeper than that - note that nobody is in any legal trouble over the obvious mishandling of classified data. It's the "just us" system in plain view and nobody seems to much care.

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Why would anyone be in legal trouble over this?

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ttwtt78640 said:

We seem to be talking about two entirely different things - Comey's stated interpretation or understanding of the "true meaning" of law and the actual words of the law which define gross negligence (which does not require intent) as being a violation of it. Most of us accept being extremely careless as synonymous with having exhibited gross negligence.

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You can accept that, but you would be wrong.

Like many legal terms, gross negligence has a specific meaning which is NOT "extremely careless"

But hey, if "some guy on the internet" says he knows the "true meaning" of a law better than someone whose spent their entire adulthood actually practicing the law, then they must know what they are talking about, right? Everyone knows that anonymous Internet posters are the ultimate word on the "true meaning" of the law.

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Erod said:

Democrats don't care about classified emails being forwarded to Weiner, but they really want to investigate wikileaks?

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...yes, because one issue involved stupidity that may have exposed US secrets to our enemies and the other actually involved our enemies attacking US sovereignty. One was a hypothetical; the other a reality. One is history; the other is active. I am sorry you don't understand why one is nothing but a silly obsession and the other is a threat.

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Jack Hays said:

If he has irritated both parties then he's probably on the right track.

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He has and he is.

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Tanngrisnir said:

https://twitter.com/LawyerRogelio/status/859824285510246401

GRAHAM: "Is it fair to say that the Russian government is still involved in American politics?"

COMEY: "Yes."

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Indeed.

It would appear that the firm hired to do oppo reports for neverTrump and Planned Parenthood (and other Democrat causes) might have been working with... Russians spies! dun dun duuuuun!

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Chillfolks said:

Ha like Anthony in a suit means its not classified. Carlos Danger nude meant classified.

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Huma could call them Anthony's privates emails and people would think it was a typo.

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jmotivator said:

Indeed.

It would appear that the firm hired to do oppo reports for neverTrump and Planned Parenthood (and other Democrat causes) might have been working with... Russians spies! dun dun duuuuun!

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I've never seen Grassley pissed like was yesterday.

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bubbabgone said:

I've never seen Grassley pissed like was was yesterday.

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Senator: "Why were charges not brought against Huma Abedin?"

Comey: "We didn't have any indication that she had a sense of what she was doing was in violation of the law."

Let that breathtaking exchange sink in...

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Tanngrisnir said:

https://twitter.com/LawyerRogelio/status/859824285510246401

GRAHAM: "Is it fair to say that the Russian government is still involved in American politics?"

COMEY: "Yes."

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I wonder what the answer would be to "When did the Russians start being involved in American Politics?" Anyone want to lay money that it goes back further than the last few years?

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Absentglare said:

Doesn't change anything, it's so obviously just stupid political bull**** at this point.

Comey didn't recommend any charges against Abedin. His opinions of her alleged non-criminal behavior is wholly inappropriate for a supposedly independent investigator to comment on. Generally, when no charges are recommended, the FBI doesn't do political character assassination. At least that was the case until this generation of cowardly republicans took control.

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You seem mired in the past.

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Mr Person said:

He also said they needed to find evidence of knowing wrongdoing to sustain charges and didn't find any. I haven't dealt with any political corruption cases, state or fed, so I can't weigh in on that.

But unless the head of the FBI can be shown to not know the law, you guys really need to stop talking about Hillary Clinton's ****ing email server. It's beyond stupid at this point.

(It's amazing. They'll say talking about Trump's resistance to and Congress's heel-dragging regarding investigating possible Russian attempts to interfere in our election is just trying to "deflect" or change the subject. In the next breath, they'll start rambling on about the goddamn server, which was investigated. Repeatedly.)




She was reckless. She admitted it. The FBI investigated.

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The FBI director CLEARLY doesn't know the law. Where have you ever seen an officer of the law excuse a felony on the grounds that the perpetrator didn't know the law?

I know for a fact that you don't get a clearance without having that law specifically pounded into your head.

Comey is corrupt and he makes insane, idiotic arguments geared for an audience he assumes is mostly ignorant.

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Erod said:

Democrats don't care about classified emails being forwarded to Weiner, but they really want to investigate wikileaks?

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And republicans don't care about treason within their ranks.

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poweRob said:

And republicans don't care about treason within their ranks.

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What treason?

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Anthony60 said:

I wonder what the answer would be to "When did the Russians start being involved in American Politics?" Anyone want to lay money that it goes back further than the last few years?

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Ted Kennedy pleaded with the Kremlin for them to help the Democrats defeat Reagan.

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apdst said:

What treason?

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Knowingly bringing foreign agents into your administration.

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jmotivator said:

Ted Kennedy pleaded with the Kremlin for them to help the Democrats defeat Reagan.

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I see there is a new right wing BS meme bouncing around the fruitcake echochamber.