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UN warned Trump that ObamaCare repeal could violate international law

Praxas said:
No you want to support making it impossible for the poor to get healthcare and treatment they need because they will have their premiums increased so high to make it impossible to get care due to their preexisting conditions. You have no problem taking away the freedom for the poor to get care because it's too high. Again you show no compassion for the poor and only care about yourself.
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No, that is just social justice warrior blathering masquerading as thought that you are spewing.

We want everyone to have healthcare, we want everyone to be safe, secure and successful. We realize that there are a number of ways of going about it, the way your side wants to go is not one we agree with.
 
Renae said:
No, that is just social justice warrior blathering masquerading as thought that you are spewing.

We want everyone to have healthcare, we want everyone to be safe, secure and successful. We realize that there are a number of ways of going about it, the way your side wants to go is not one we agree with.
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Your side has had decades to solve it and chose not to while thousands were denied crucial care because of their conditions and the cost it takes to treat them. Your side ignored it and chose the status quo of letting them either go untreated or just die. Instead of focusing on wars and killing them come up with a better way to help those that need it. When you can do that let us know, until then the people have spoke and Obamacare is more popular than Trump.
 
Renae said:
How does a program that increases costs, lower choices and is in the long term unaffordable harm America and Americans... gee that's a real tough one that is....
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None of those things are true about the ACA but Trumpcare looks just like you described. Wait till the ever 50 crowd see their premiums go up 5 times. The S***s going to hit the fan. That's why the ACA is here to stay.
 
Praxas said:
Your side has had decades to solve it and chose not to while thousands were denied crucial care because of their conditions and the cost it takes to treat them. Your side ignored it and chose the status quo of letting them either go untreated or just die. Instead of focusing on wars and killing them come up with a better way to help those that need it. When you can do that let us know, until then the people have spoke and Obamacare is more popular than Trump.
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No one let anyone just "die", stop it. That's absolute nonsense. If all you have is to repeat privileged white guilt college, liberal arts college SJW clap trap... I'm not gonna engage in discussion with you.
 
iguanaman said:
None of those things are true about the ACA but Trumpcare looks just like you described. Wait till the ever 50 crowd see their premiums go up 5 times. The S***s going to hit the fan. That's why the ACA is here to stay.
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The ACA is what I said it is, they merely masked the huge cost increase by having the gov't subsidize those costs. Taht you don't get that, or why that's driving up the cost of healthcare and insurance... well, best go back and do some more homework.
 
Renae said:
No one let anyone just "die", stop it. That's absolute nonsense. If all you have is to repeat privileged white guilt college, liberal arts college SJW clap trap... I'm not gonna engage in discussion with you.
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So having cancer Meds so high that the poor can't afford treatment isn't killing someone? Tell that to folks who were denied treatment. Folks like you make me sick and I'm so glad people see Obamacare more popular than your false god trump. Trump supporters should be brought up on charges of treason like the scum they are.
 
Praxas said:
So having cancer Meds so high that the poor can't afford treatment isn't killing someone? Tell that to folks who were denied treatment. Folks like you make me sick and I'm so glad people see Obamacare more popular than your false god trump. Trump supporters should be brought up on charges of treason like the scum they are.
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I didn't vote for him.

I don't like Trump as a person, I like some of the things he's doing and I really like how he's pushing unstable people off a cliff.

Oh, and as for your beloved, benevolent "obamacare" IT's doing exactly what you "claim" to hate, and this since you SUPPORT it, you are supporting killing cancer patients who are being denied treatment and life saving care over costs. So do you hate yourself now? Or are you a partisan hack?

ObamaCare is supposed to be a huge boon for anyone with a pre-existing condition. Count that another promise broken: It’s actually denying care because of pre-existing conditions.

Millions of Americans with cancer and other chronic illnesses will wind up paying more for lifesaving care, if they can get it all.

To keep costs down, the White House designed ObamaCare plans as cut-rate HMOs. The low profit margins have forced insurers to downsize the number of doctors and hospitals in their networks — and to slash what they cover for out-of-network treatment.

So most ObamaCare plans don’t include the vast majority of the best cancer doctors and cancer centers. That’s a huge problem for these patients. As Dr. Scott Gottlieb, a former Medicare official, writes: “Cancer patients often need the help of specialized doctors and cancer institutions that won’t make it into many of these cheapened networks.”

All across the country, leading cancer centers — including New York’s Memorial Sloan Kettering — are excluded by the largest plans. In Washington state, the largest exchange plans exclude world-class cancer care for kids such as the Seattle Cancer Care Alliance. California’s state-of-the-art Cedars-Sinai cancer center isn’t in any ObamaCare plan. Only a few plans include the Mayo Clinic.
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Death by Obamacare: ‘Reform’ reams cancer patients | New York Post
 
Bucky said:
Shouldn't the UN be focusing on more important issues like..... preventing war or nuclear weapons being launched in the sky?
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It should, but the majority of the UN is made of dictatorial countries that want to see the first world nations fail.
 
slick said:
Imagine if Clinton had won. Realize we would all likely be on the way to become Citizens of the world with
the UN having the last word on American lives. What a bullet we just have dodged
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Never happen without the democrats having a solid, filibuster proof majority in congress.
 
So what? Can the nations of the UN beat the US in war? If the answer to that question is no then the UN can shove their opinion up their ass.
 
Praxas said:
So having cancer Meds so high that the poor can't afford treatment isn't killing someone? Tell that to folks who were denied treatment. Folks like you make me sick and I'm so glad people see Obamacare more popular than your false god trump. Trump supporters should be brought up on charges of treason like the scum they are.
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Are people that refuse to help someone in need responsible for whatever the person needs assistance with? If the answer to that question is no then you might want to review your reasoning.
 
Moderate Right said:
The only case is that government is corrupt and wasteful, not efficient and doesn't know what they are doing. The bigger the government the more that is true.
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In today's world, yes. But that's because we, the voters, as a whole, don't hold our politicians accountable.

Before all this social spendiong and politicians buying the votes of people with their own money, we were a great nation. We built the interstates, things like Hoover dam, went to the moon, etc.

Now we are wasting money on losers. Subsidized the existence of breeders, who don't know when to stop burdening our nation with more needed subsidies.
 
Moderate Right said:
So far I haven't seen any proof that the federal government can do this better than others.
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The private sector has never once done it on any significant scale, so I guess there's no evidence for your argument at all.
 
Renae said:
The ACA is what I said it is, they merely masked the huge cost increase by having the gov't subsidize those costs. Taht you don't get that, or why that's driving up the cost of healthcare and insurance... well, best go back and do some more homework.
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Here's your "homework". You have been fed a bunch of huey. Try fact checking those sites you worship for a change.

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Deuce said:
The private sector has never once done it on any significant scale, so I guess there's no evidence for your argument at all.
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States build highways and other infrastructure all the time. In case you didn't realize it, there are one helluva lot of roads and highways out there that are not interstates.
 
Moderate Right said:
States build highways and other infrastructure all the time. In case you didn't realize it, there are one helluva lot of roads and highways out there that are not interstates.
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Yes, and?
 
Deuce said:
Yes, and?
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and that is proof that the state and local governments and the private sector can do just as good or better than the federal government. It was a stupid argument for him to claim that roads could not have been built without the federal government.
 
Moderate Right said:
and that is proof that the state and local governments and the private sector can do just as good or better than the federal government. It was a stupid argument for him to claim that roads could not have been built without the federal government.
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You responded to my post which only mentioned the private sector, hence my confusion.

So can you provide an example of state-funded roads, entirely without federal help, that are "better?" How did you measure this "better?"
 
Looks like the UN can rest easy.

A sense of gloom settled over House Republicans on Tuesday as support for their Obamacare repeal plan seemed to erode even further and members began reckoning with the unthinkable: They may never be able to repeal Obamacare.
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Deuce said:
You responded to my post which only mentioned the private sector, hence my confusion.

So can you provide an example of state-funded roads, entirely without federal help, that are "better?" How did you measure this "better?"
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I was responding to a post where someone said the federal government can do it better. Please provide proof of that.
 
"UN warned Trump that ObamaCare repeal could violate international law"

Oh no, the UN. What are we going to do now? Please let's withdraw from the UN. Please.
 
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