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UN warned Trump that ObamaCare repeal could violate international law

Renae said:
My daughter is very ill, I'm gonna take money from you, to pay for her needs.

What? You don't approve? What have I DONE to help her, well I took from you of course, you had more than you needed anyway.
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Your ignorance and lack of compassion is astounding. It's a shame more republicans aren't as honest as you with their platform on "**** you all I got mine" . Instead they, like trump, run on lies about what their plans are. Here's a fact for you, obomacare is more popular than Trump. Now that's funny.
 
Renae said:
My daughter is very ill, I'm gonna take money from you, to pay for her needs.

What? You don't approve? What have I DONE to help her, well I took from you of course, you had more than you needed anyway.
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Yeah. That's how it works. We all chip in so poor people don't just die from treatable illness. :roll:
 
Praxas said:
Your ignorance and lack of compassion is astounding. It's a shame more republicans aren't as honest as you with their platform on "**** you all I got mine" . Instead they, like trump, run on lies about what their plans are. Here's a fact for you, obomacare is more popular than Trump. Now that's funny.
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You say I lack compassion because I don't support your version of the best way to handle medical care in America. I think you need to take your partisan hackery elsewhere. I'm the most compassionate of people, I just don't see compassion in "Obamacare" I see political stupidity that doesn't work and harms America.

Talk to me when you have an actual plan that helps people.
 
calamity said:
Yeah. That's how it works. We all chip in so poor people don't just die from treatable illness. :roll:
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And what right do you have to force me to "chip in"?
 
Renae said:
And what right do you have to force me to "chip in"?
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Same right you have to force me to chip in for another Tomahawk missile we don't need or a border wall I don't want.
 
calamity said:
Same right you have to force me to chip in for another Tomahawk missile we don't need or a border wall I don't want.
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No no, you see that's in the Constitution. The Government's JOB is to protect the nation. Where is it that you have the right to force ME to pay for your healthcare? I'm asking because you people LOVE to attack on grounds of "No compassion" those that disagree with YOUR view of how to handle healthcare. Yet you cannot answer, rationally where you get the RIGHT to force me to pay for your beliefs.

I get where the right to tax people for defense comes from. I get where the right to tax a lot of things. I don't see where you have the right, constitutionally or hell ethically to force me to pay for your healthcare needs.

Also, and here's where I really have a problem with the POV you and others are spewing, when Government guarantees payment... the costs go up. ALWAYS. Your solution is... ultimately going to fail.
 
Renae said:
My daughter is very ill, I'm gonna take money from you, to pay for her needs.

What? You don't approve? What have I DONE to help her, well I took from you of course, you had more than you needed anyway.
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Seems awfully petty to begrudge a poor parent for wanting to save his sick child's life.
But at least you are showing consistency.
 
Renae said:
No no, you see that's in the Constitution. The Government's JOB is to protect the nation. Where is it that you have the right to force ME to pay for your healthcare? I'm asking because you people LOVE to attack on grounds of "No compassion" those that disagree with YOUR view of how to handle healthcare. Yet you cannot answer, rationally where you get the RIGHT to force me to pay for your beliefs.

I get where the right to tax people for defense comes from. I get where the right to tax a lot of things. I don't see where you have the right, constitutionally or hell ethically to force me to pay for your healthcare needs.

Also, and here's where I really have a problem with the POV you and others are spewing, when Government guarantees payment... the costs go up. ALWAYS. Your solution is... ultimately going to fail.
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When the constitution gives license to defend the wealth of the rich while denying healthcare to the poor, it's time to scrap it.
 
calamity said:
When the constitution gives license to defend the wealth of the rich while denying healthcare to the poor, it's time to scrap it.
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Good point. Let's have congress vote on scrapping the Constitution. Let's see how many Democrats vote for that.
 
JackA said:
Right on! Why should Americans, we of the Red, White and Blue, give a damn about international law?
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America SHOULD give a damn about international law, but international law is about law between nations, not about countries telling other countries how to run their internal affairs.
 
Moderate Right said:
I'm getting so tired of the left mentality that if Obamacare would be repealed there would be no health insurance anymore. In fact, it's possible that health insurance companies would panic at the thought of losing so much business they would offer up cheaper rates than Obamacare.
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I guess this idea is your sample of "right mentality".
 
I think it makes sense that there should be something in place once the ACA is removed.
 
Renae said:
No no, you see that's in the Constitution. The Government's JOB is to protect the nation. Where is it that you have the right to force ME to pay for your healthcare? I'm asking because you people LOVE to attack on grounds of "No compassion" those that disagree with YOUR view of how to handle healthcare. Yet you cannot answer, rationally where you get the RIGHT to force me to pay for your beliefs.

I get where the right to tax people for defense comes from. I get where the right to tax a lot of things. I don't see where you have the right, constitutionally or hell ethically to force me to pay for your healthcare needs.

Also, and here's where I really have a problem with the POV you and others are spewing, when Government guarantees payment... the costs go up. ALWAYS. Your solution is... ultimately going to fail.
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Where does it say you have to have car insurance?
 
Quag said:
America SHOULD give a damn about international law, but international law is about law between nations, not about countries telling other countries how to run their internal affairs.
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Bingo
 
JackA said:
I guess this idea is your sample of "right mentality".
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So, are you saying that if Obamacare was repealed that there would be no health insurance? Seems like I remember there was health insurance before Obamacare.
 
Quag said:
America SHOULD give a damn about international law, but international law is about law between nations, not about countries telling other countries how to run their internal affairs.
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There are indeed international laws that tell countries what not to do in their internal affairs and the United States is a party to some of them.
 
Moderate Right said:
Good point. Let's have congress vote on scrapping the Constitution. Let's see how many Democrats vote for that.
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When it's used to tax the poor to feed the rich, something has to go.
 
Moderate Right said:
So, are you saying that if Obamacare was repealed that there would be no health insurance? Seems like I remember there was health insurance before Obamacare.
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Nope, not what I was saying.
 
JackA said:
Nope, not what I was saying.
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Democrats love counting all the millions who have insurance now that did not have it before, even though these people are afraid to use their insurance because of the high deductibles and out of pocket costs. Many of them didn't even know until they went to a provider the first time and found out they were on the hook for a ton of money and won't be using their "insurance" anymore because they don't have thousands of dollars for those deductibles and out of pocket costs. But, unlike the diehard Obamacare defenders who claim that there is no such thing as an Obamacare horror story, I'm willing to acknowledge that there are SOME positive stories about Obamacare. But, there are far more horror stories against it than there are positive stories.
 
JackA said:
There are indeed international laws that tell countries what not to do in their internal affairs and the United States is a party to some of them.
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A law without any means of enforcement is a mockery of law.
The UN pronouncing on this while there are countries that do not have democracy, allow slavery, kill/imprison homosexuals, those of the wrong faith, those who disagree with them makes a mockery of the UN.
 
Moderate Right said:
So, are you saying that if Obamacare was repealed that there would be no health insurance? Seems like I remember there was health insurance before Obamacare.
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PPACA expanded federal government subsidies and control over "private" goods/services. UN 101: getting more "free" stuff is good, taking away any "free" stuff is bad.
 
JackA said:
Nope, not what I was saying.
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Forget the UN on this. The poor in the US have more buying power after transfers than the populations in most countries have on average and approximately the same as the poor in rich countries like Germany. The structure of healthcare might be poor, but the danger to human rights is muck throwing.
 
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