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Portland rose parade canceled after ‘antifascists’ threaten GOP marchers

1750Texan said:
How do I know that parade organizers did not want the GOP to march and they themselves cancelled the parade?

Why doesn't the GOP sponsor their own Rose Parade and invite all that were affected.
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Because the organizers said that it was cancelled because of threats of violence.
 
faithful_servant said:
When was the last time a large conservative group used violence or threats of violence to stop liberals from doing anything like this?? I'll bet that you have to go back decades to find an example...
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How many people belong to "antifa" and what makes them "liberal"? How many people belong to skinhead/white supremacist groups? Do you consider them conservative?

Do you think the KKK (which endorsed Trump right after he announced) ever uses "violence or threats of violence".

I think they are all nuts. Funny that they were all basically dormant/marginalized until Trump came along.
 
jamesrage said:
By canceling the event they are only encouraging those anti-fascist scum to make more threats.More like terrorist seeing how they use violence and threats of violence to silence others.
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But they're sort of screwed. If they say frell it, and have the event and something happens, they're going to get sued. So unless there's a way to remove liability, or the government is going to provide adequate security, they're in a rock and a hard place. It's the same as Berkeley on some level. There is violence, we know there is and we have seen it, and now the organizers have to worry about that and take it into account.

I don't want to encourage these guys either, but particularly if you're talking about a parade that was meant for families, they cannot risk having some fascist street brawl where there are going to be families with kids about. The potential for harm and liability are too great.
 
faithful_servant said:
Because it was directed at stopping conservatives from being in the parade. :roll:
The level of denial about these liberal antifa thugs is stunning. They are LIBERALS supporting liberal ideas. These are YOUR children (metaphorically speaking) and as their "parents", you are failing them. When will we start hearing liberal leaders denouncing them??
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An anonymous wacko sends a threatening email, and the only possible conclusion is it was done because there were Republicans in the parada and liberals are trying to stop them.

Seems to me to be a bit of a stretch, particularly since we don't know who sent the email.

How can we be sure it wasn't a conservative group trying to discredit the liberals?
Or, more likely, a random nutter stirring up trouble.
 
Porkuloss said:
How many people belong to "antifa" and what makes them "liberal"? How many people belong to skinhead/white supremacist groups? Do you consider them conservative?

Do you think the KKK (which endorsed Trump right after he announced) ever uses "violence or threats of violence".

I think they are all nuts. Funny that they were all basically dormant/marginalized until Trump came along.
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Liberal antifa thugs are your "children" because of their singular anti-conservative attacks. Yes, they are yours...
 
Dittohead not! said:
An anonymous wacko sends a threatening email, and the only possible conclusion is it was done because there were Republicans in the parada and liberals are trying to stop them.

Seems to me to be a bit of a stretch, particularly since we don't know who sent the email.

How can we be sure it wasn't a conservative group trying to discredit the liberals?
Or, more likely, a random nutter stirring up trouble.
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I'd say that there is about .0002% chance of your scenarios and about a 99.9998% chance that the person who sent that email was a registered Democrat/Green/Socialist.
 
TheGoverness said:
Sigh.

These ANTIFA douchebags are beyond disgraceful. Resorting to threats of violence (as well as committing violence) in order to get certain events shut down is downright unacceptable. You idiots have no right to prevent others from expressing their right to freedom of speech and assembly. And unfortunately, the fact that this event was cancelled, is probably just going to encourage this kind of terroristic behavior even further.

These so-called "anti-facists" are the facists.
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They are thugs and criminals. We let them win when we back down from them. They need to have their parade and the police need to arrest those who participate in any disruption.
 
Erod said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...threaten-gop-marchers/?utm_term=.edbfab2cb5e7



The next violent organized terrorist organization will be these leftists.

They're ramping up their tactics with each event.
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Western Europe, notable groups included the West German Red Army Faction (RAF), the Italian Red Brigades, the French Action Directe (AD), and the Belgian Communist Combatant Cells (CCC).

Left side is no stranger to terrorism. I wonder how they intend to act without firearms?


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fmw said:
They are thugs and criminals. We let them win when we back down from them. They need to have their parade and the police need to arrest those who participate in any disruption.
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Shoot a couple and I bet they stop. Friggin scumbags.


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Porkuloss said:
How many people belong to "antifa" and what makes them "liberal"? How many people belong to skinhead/white supremacist groups? Do you consider them conservative?

Do you think the KKK (which endorsed Trump right after he announced) ever uses "violence or threats of violence".

I think they are all nuts. Funny that they were all basically dormant/marginalized until Trump came along.
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Show us the last time the KKK asshats shut down anything due to a threat of violence.
 
blackjack50 said:
Shoot a couple and I bet they stop. Friggin scumbags.


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I'd like to see the FBI follow the money to those who fund these rioters. I'd like to see them enjoy the interior of a prison.
 
faithful_servant said:
I'd say that there is about .0002% chance of your scenarios and about a 99.9998% chance that the person who sent that email was a registered Democrat/Green/Socialist.
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But, you say that with no evidence that you're correct. Looks like a huge leap to conclusions to me.
 
fmw said:
I'd like to see the FBI follow the money to those who fund these rioters. I'd like to see them enjoy the interior of a prison.
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I doubt they are funded. Not like it is needed to be jobless and feel entitled to other people's money.


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Dittohead not! said:
But, you say that with no evidence that you're correct. Looks like a huge leap to conclusions to me.
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I base my conclusion on past trends and present reality. All of the large violent protests that have happened in the last couple of decades have been pro-liberal/anti-conservative ideology. In this case, we have just one more example of the same, so assuming that it's anything other than a dumb-ass liberal doing this flies in the face of reason. There's a slim chance that I'm wrong, but Vegas odds are firmly in my favor.
 
faithful_servant said:
I base my conclusion on past trends and present reality. All of the large violent protests that have happened in the last couple of decades have been pro-liberal/anti-conservative ideology. In this case, we have just one more example of the same, so assuming that it's anything other than a dumb-ass liberal doing this flies in the face of reason. There's a slim chance that I'm wrong, but Vegas odds are firmly in my favor.
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They're in your favor if you put the BLM rioters, the Berzerkly nutters, and anyone else who has had a demonstration go violent into one category and label that category "liberal," and then add in people who have sent threatening notes/emails:

Is Gavin Friedman a liberal?
 
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Dittohead not! said:
They're in your favor if you put the BLM rioters, the Berzerkly nutters, and anyone else who has had a demonstration go violent into one category and label that category "liberal."
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The BLM occupation wasn't a riot by anyone's definition and it wasn't an attempt at subverting anyone's civil rights. :roll:
 
Dittohead not! said:
They're in your favor if you put the BLM rioters, the Berzerkly nutters, and anyone else who has had a demonstration go violent into one category and label that category "liberal," and then add in people who have sent threatening notes/emails:

Is Gavin Friedman a liberal?
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So you have one nutjob and I have a couple dozen large scale riots supporting anti-conservative ideals. Of course that means that this time it's a nutjob... :roll:
 
faithful_servant said:
The next time you're up here, take a drive over the mountains and see what the sane and beautiful side of the state looks like.
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Oh, I know, and I'm not lumping you all together.

It's like California. If you got rid of about 30 square miles of LA/SF in that state, it's as red as Alabama. LOL
 
Tigerace117 said:
Oh, there's plenty of nutjobs in red states as well. They just use different rhetoric.
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But they don't rule over red states. Leftist nutcases have the west coast in a headlock.
 
fmw said:
I'd like to see the FBI follow the money to those who fund these rioters. I'd like to see them enjoy the interior of a prison.
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I'll take George Soros for a $1000, Alex.
 
Dittohead not! said:
But, you say that with no evidence that you're correct. Looks like a huge leap to conclusions to me.
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! No evidence you say? Been living under a rock since the election? Shutting down a public event through the use of violence to stop Republicans and Conservatives is precisely the MO of Antifa. It isn't like the threat is out of character for that group of thugs.
 
faithful_servant said:
Show us the last time the KKK asshats shut down anything due to a threat of violence.
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Off the top of my head, Dylan Roof shut down a church pretty effectively. He was a lot more violent than those antifa kooks.
 
Dittohead not! said:
An anonymous wacko sends a threatening email, and the only possible conclusion is it was done because there were Republicans in the parada and liberals are trying to stop them.

Seems to me to be a bit of a stretch, particularly since we don't know who sent the email.

How can we be sure it wasn't a conservative group trying to discredit the liberals?
Or, more likely, a random nutter stirring up trouble.
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It would appear that you didn't follow the links and read the articles. There are no conclusions necessary. Two leftist groups sent the emails. They declared who they were, and what they were going to do. They even bragged that the parade organizers could do nothing about it. How can you possibly call it a stretch? We know exactly who sent the emails. Is it safe to assume you never read the articles, and not just suffering from a bad case of denial?

Organizers cancel 82nd Avenue of Roses Parade, after protesters threaten to shut it down
At least two protests were planned for the day of the parade, one by Oregon Students Empowered and another by Direct Action Alliance. Both events were mentioned in an email sent to parade organizers on Saturday, threatening to shut down the event with hundreds of protesters in the street.

"You have seen how much power we have downtown and that the police cannot stop us from shutting down roads so please consider your decision wisely," the anonymous email said, telling organizers they could cancel the Republican group's registration or else face action from protesters. "This is non-negotiable."
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