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Key lawmakers balk at Donald Trump’s wall request

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Key lawmakers balk at Donald Trump’s wall request

Laura Meckler / April 21, 2017

WASHINGTON—Not a single member of Congress who represents the territory on the southwest border said they support President Donald Trump’s request for $1.4 billion to begin construction of his promised wall, according to a Wall Street Journal survey, testing the administration’s ability to reach a deal on government funding next week. Most lawmakers representing the region—both Democrats and Republicans—said they are opposed and many said they have unanswered questions. A few were noncommittal, but not a single member of the House or Senate representing the region expressed support for the funding request. That includes nine members of the House and eight senators across four states: Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California. The question is increasingly urgent as Congress and the White House scramble to agree on a spending bill needed to keep the government open. Existing funding for the government expires April 28, and the White House says it wants funding for the border wall as part of the package. Senior congressional Republicans have long indicated that they prefer to leave it out.

Enthusiasm for the project has been tepid, at best, from many lawmakers since Mr. Trump submitted his request. In March, he asked Congress for $1.4 billion in spending for the current fiscal year for the project, with an additional $2.6 billion for next year. Many Republicans responded that the Trump approach is overly focused on a physical barrier rather than other approaches to border security, such as technology, that experts say can be more effective and less expensive. “As representatives of the communities that make up our southern border, we recognize the need for robust border security and infrastructure to ensure public safety and increase cross border commerce,” Reps. Will Hurd (R., Texas) and Martha McSally (R., Ariz.) wrote in a letter last month to senior administration officials. “However, we also have an obligation to be good stewards of taxpayer dollars and as such have a number of questions.”
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Let Trump get his border-wall funding from Mexico as he promised to do.
 
"Who's gonna pay for the wall?"
"Mexico!"
"When?"
"Eventually!"
"...WHEN?!"
"At a later date!"
"And how will they pay?"
"In some form!"

Yayyyy!

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With respect to Ken Tremendous.
 
I'm guessing most members of Congress have looked at a map, and seen because of the Gulf of Mexico that a wall is completely pointless and a huge waste of money. Especially because the current POTUS budget reduces funding to the Coast Guard. lol.. Unless the CG is going to HEAVILY patrol the Gulf a wall is pointless.

But then knowing Trump I'm pretty sure he's never looked at a map, and if he did wouldn't understand what he's looking at.
 
Cardinal said:
"Who's gonna pay for the wall?"
"Mexico!"
"When?"
"Eventually!"
"...WHEN?!"
"At a later date!"
"And how will they pay?"
"In some form!"

Yayyyy!

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With respect to Ken Tremendous.
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The tragedy of all this is that Trump supporters will still back him up regardless. If Trump says the moon is made of cheese, they will believe him.
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
I'm guessing most members of Congress have looked at a map, and seen because of the Gulf of Mexico that a wall is completely pointless and a huge waste of money. Especially because the current POTUS budget reduces funding to the Coast Guard. lol.. Unless the CG is going to HEAVILY patrol the Gulf a wall is pointless.

But then knowing Trump I'm pretty sure he's never looked at a map, and if he did wouldn't understand what he's looking at.
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As highlighted by the pro-science march yesterday Trump and Company do not use, are not interested in, do not want research and evidenced based data. That certainly applies to the building a wall. Trump and his followers are not interested in building a wall because studies have determined it to be the best solution. In fact as with all Trump brain farts even the problem is not clearly defined.

Earlier in the thread a Trumper said that the wall will stop tens of millions of illegals coming into the US. Where is the data that supports such a belief? And what does the research say about the downside of building a wall?

Trump's Wall would be a monument to Trump's monumental narcissism, bigotry and stupidity.
 
Mac77 said:
If the cngress does not build the wall there is no way to prevent 10s of millions more illegal aliens from flooding into this country

But considering the source it is not safe to assume the story is real or accurate
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i will put it another way

if congress does not fund the wall, because legislation has already passed for the creation of the wall.

then the republicans will make trump weak and also hurt the republican party and their chances for reelection 2018

so the republican party and their candidates is going to rise and fall on their own merit, and that merit is usually pretty bad, from what i have seen over the last 17 years.

the republican party is not a unified party, because it made up of liberals, moderates, conservatives and libertarians who don't usually find common ground and have to fight over issues and not much gets done.

they are united and bold when out of power making large claims of what they will do when they are in power, however they deflate under the pressure of power and the voters who voted for them feel betrayed.
 
Glowpun said:
The tragedy of all this is that Trump supporters will still back him up regardless. If Trump says the moon is made of cheese, they will believe him.
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I wont blame trump because the republican congress failed to deliver
 
Master PO said:
i will put it another way

if congress does not fund the wall, because legislation has already passed for the creation of the wall.

then the republicans will make trump weak and also hurt the republican party and their chances for reelection 2018

so the republican party and their candidates is going to rise and fall on their own merit, and that merit is usually pretty bad, from what i have seen over the last 17 years.

the republican party is not a unified party, because it made up of liberals, moderates, conservatives and libertarians who don't usually find common ground and have to fight over issues and not much gets done.

they are united and bold when out of power making large claims of what they will do when they are in power, however they deflate under the pressure of power and the voters who voted for them feel betrayed.
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The republican leaders in congress only care about getting reelected

Nothing else under the sun matters to them

If they can hurt trump without hurting themselves they will
 
Im curious what kind of border security is going to be needed to protect the construction workers and the wall.

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Mac77 said:
The republican leaders in congress only care about getting reelected

Nothing else under the sun matters to them

If they can hurt trump without hurting themselves they will
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The guy's party controls both houses and he's a lame duck. There just was no happy ending possible in the last election, was there.
 
Mac77 said:
The republican leaders in congress only care about getting reelected

Nothing else under the sun matters to them

If they can hurt trump without hurting themselves they will
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true, government is composed of people who think about reelection the day after an election.

the republicans have always talked a good game, but they don't play a good one.

the only way to solve the problem is to bust up congress's ability to be lobbied and there only 1 way to do that, and the people are not educated enough to understand that.
 
Grand Mal said:
The guy's party controls both houses and he's a lame duck. There just was no happy ending possible in the last election, was there.
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the republicans will rise or fall based on congress not the president, there are problems in the first 100 days to be sure, time will tell if trump is a success or failure, both are possible.
 
Master PO said:
the republicans will rise or fall based on congress not the president, there are problems in the first 100 days to be sure, time will tell if trump is a success or failure, both are possible.
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They're at risk of squandering an opportunity. If they continue to bungle they could lose both majorities at mid-terms and that slamming sound will be a window that might not re-open for a long time.
And it'll still all be the fault of 'the left'.
 
Grand Mal said:
They're at risk of squandering an opportunity. If they continue to bungle they could lose both majorities at mid-terms and that slamming sound will be a window that might not re-open for a long time.
And it'll still all be the fault of 'the left'.
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the republicans can easily fail, because they cannot get their heads together and many times are divided of issues, the democrats have failed in the last election because they have moved farther left away from the american blue collar worker.

they are a party which caters to groups of people and not the people as a whole.
 
Mac77 said:
I wont blame trump because the republican congress failed to deliver
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Yeah. It's weird how all of a sudden liberals want Trump to have direct control over the legislature.
 
Mac77 said:
If the cngress does not build the wall there is no way to prevent 10s of millions more illegal aliens from flooding into this country

But considering the source it is not safe to assume the story is real or accurate
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Then I suggest your lord and savior trump get busy and get that money from Mexico like he promised he would. Remember your God trump said that when he talks people do what he says. If he can't get the money from Mexico no wall. Even the border states don't want to pay for it.
 
Risky Thicket said:
As highlighted by the pro-science march yesterday Trump and Company do not use, are not interested in, do not want research and evidenced based data. That certainly applies to the building a wall. Trump and his followers are not interested in building a wall because studies have determined it to be the best solution. In fact as with all Trump brain farts even the problem is not clearly defined.

Earlier in the thread a Trumper said that the wall will stop tens of millions of illegals coming into the US. Where is the data that supports such a belief? And what does the research say about the downside of building a wall?

Trump's Wall would be a monument to Trump's monumental narcissism, bigotry and stupidity.
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I thought the science march highlighted the hypocrisy of only believing in the science that supports your political views as a large chunk of those marching ignore the scientific consensus that GMOs are safe.
 
Mac77 said:
If the cngress does not build the wall there is no way to prevent 10s of millions more illegal aliens from flooding into this country

But considering the source it is not safe to assume the story is real or accurate
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It was written by someone from the right-leaning Wall Street Journal. So now you care even doubting your own sources. Only Breitbart is acceptable to you. Tucker Carlson is far too liberal for you, and don't even get you started on Will or Krauthammer.
 
Mac77 said:
I wont blame trump because the republican congress failed to deliver
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You won't blame Trump for anything. A leader should be able to lead his own party.
 
Mac77 said:
The republican leaders in congress only care about getting reelected

Nothing else under the sun matters to them

If they can hurt trump without hurting themselves they will
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Umm...Trump is already running for reelection. I think he cares about getting rejected quite a bit.
 
Mac77 said:
I wont blame trump because the republican congress failed to deliver
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Simple truth is, Trumps mouth made grandiose campaign promises that his Congressional majorities don't want to be on the hook for.
 
reinoe said:
Yeah. It's weird how all of a sudden liberals want Trump to have direct control over the legislature.
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It's weird how the rabid right had such giddy predictions once the GOP got both houses and the Oval Office, but now can't seem to get anything done... :roll:

Liberals don't want Trump to get his way in Congress, but some do marvel how the 'deal maker' can't seem to get what ALL GOP politicians declared would be job #1 - repeal the ACA.... :doh

For all the votes to repeal, for all the time Congress and Trump had to come up with a plan they could agree on, we got what??? :shock:

A hot mess they couldn't even get their own party to support!!!!! ya can't make this crap up! They come off looking like idiots, all that Trump talk about how easy, how cheap, how tremendous the new healthcare plan would be...

As another poster noted, trump appears to have been elected a lame duck from day 1.... :peace
 
Cardinal said:
"Who's gonna pay for the wall?"
"Mexico!"
"When?"
"Eventually!"
"...WHEN?!"
"At a later date!"
"And how will they pay?"
"In some form!"

Yayyyy!

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With respect to Ken Tremendous.
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That sounds fine. Why get excited about something like that?
 
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