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White House pressures GOP leaders on Obamacare showdown next week

ttwtt78640 said:
So far it has gone nowhere. I hope folks will come to realize that having one federal plan is not as good as having 50 state plans.
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That's what we already have. We have 51 state Medicaid programs and 51 insurance markets.
 
I know people will eventually put me on "ignore" for repeating this, but Obamacare is here to stay. Even with the Republicans sworn promise to repeal the ACA, and that they control a majority of the state legislatures and governorships, the House, the Senate and the Presidency.
 
bluesmoke said:
I know people will eventually put me on "ignore" for repeating this, but Obamacare is here to stay. Even with the Republicans sworn promise to repeal the ACA, and that they control a majority of the state legislatures and governorships, the House, the Senate and the Presidency.
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This is pretty tame by DP standards, stick around. We'll teach you how to get people to put you on ignore.
 
Greenbeard said:
Ryan actually seems to be in way over his head, on both the policy and the politics of all this.
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Does anyone else feel they are listening to a high school student when Ryan speaks?
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Does anyone else feel they are listening to a high school student when Ryan speaks?
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Indeed. I enjoyed the time he learned how health insurance works and gave a book report on it. Like a month ago.



(And as with any poor student, it was pretty clear he didn't really get it.)
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Yep, that (bolded above) is the whole point of repeal and replace. I'm very glad that you realize that.
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So the "whole point" of the repeal was to kick 24 million people off their health insurance? That is what the GOP has been saying?
 
iguanaman said:
So the "whole point" of the repeal was to kick 24 million people off their health insurance? That is what the GOP has been saying?
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Yep, if the "whole point" of PPACA was to dole out federal subsidies to 24 million lucky winners and let the rest pay for it then ending it will have more winners than losers.
 
Greenbeard said:
Indeed. I enjoyed the time he learned how health insurance works and gave a book report on it. Like a month ago.



(And as with any poor student, it was pretty clear he didn't really get it.)
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The Democrats think 1 + 1 = 2 !?!


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Rogue Valley said:
Good healthcare isn't a consideration. The only thing Trump cares about is blabbering that he got x/y/z done withing his first 100 days.
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Which will be....Goose Egg.jpg

I learned in college that cramming doesn't deliver a particularly good result. I think the rule applies to governance as well.
 
iguanaman said:
Yes, the 1% wins again. Is that what Trump meant all along? Aren't we getting tired of them being the only winners?

Income separates the winners and losers in Republicans' health care plan - Chicago Tribune
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No, I am not tired of too little income redistribution so that ever more can get more than they work for. Aid to the elderly or disabled is fine, and probably quite affordable, but once you add those able to work that simply have expenses beyond what they can earn then that gets ridiculous.
 
Greenbeard said:
I assume, like last time, he has no idea what's in the revisions.

Which is why his sales pitch today was (and this is an actual quote): "The plan gets better and better and better, and it’s gotten really, really good. And a lot of people are liking it a lot."
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What a GD fool our CIC is. Does he even believe himself?
 
JasperL said:
What shocked me about Ryan and the GOP in general is they really got NOBODY behind that piece of garbage plan before rolling it out. They did the nearly impossible and produced something industry hated, conservative think tanks hated, conservative pundits hated, the republicans in the Senate said was DOA if/when it got there, and all but a handful of republicans in Congress were at best indifferent about. There was really no one to push that bill other than Ryan and Trump who just wanted something, anything, to pass.

So, yeah, Ryan IMO screwed up big time. I would bet somewhere Boehner was having a drink and LOLing about Ryan stuck with the same dysfunctional house that ousted him as Speaker.
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Yep. The result of being caught completely off-guard and having to produce something in a short time.
 
radcen said:
Yep. The result of being caught completely off-guard and having to produce something in a short time.
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The GOP had been running on repeal and replace for nearly 7 years, so that's an even worse indictment - it was all BS. I agree with you, but putting it like that is pretty bad....
 
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