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Utah Prepares Special Election as Rep. Chaffetz Says He May Step Down Early

NIMBY said:
How frustrating it must be for you, Athanasius, to try and wish away the Russia connections that you have to call fellow posters out by name in this forum.

It's certainly one of the deflective cards that your team has to use when they see an election disaster coming .
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Aww the Righties are hoping the Russian investigations disappear with wishfull thinking, not a chance.
 
yankintx said:
Aww the Righties are hoping the Russian investigations disappear with wishfull thinking, not a chance.
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Precisely.
So Chaffetz, with nothing to investigate But Trump and his ethics, is walking away.
He doesn't want to ruin his GOP career/credentials.
 
yankintx said:
Oh I have no doubt that Dems and Indies are fired up for Nov 2018, if Trump cannot change his trajectory I see many seats falling. Utah will be tough to flip, now next door in NV, thats a different story. Trump needs neutering come Nov 2018, big turnout next year will send a very strong messege.
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NV-3 and NV-4, along with NM-1 and NM-3, will be hard to hold. The GOP has their target list also, with 36 seats, and those four are on it. KS-4 wasn't even on the list, but KS-2 and KS-3 are.

Heller and then Flake are huge Senate targets for DEMs. I believe Cruz and Fischer are also vulnerable, for all the GOP bragging about a bad Senate map for DEMs.

In your TX, Clinton won 3 CDs won by GOP reps--7, 23 and 32--they're on the DNC list and Sen. Sanders and DNC Chair Pere are currently on an 8-state tour .
 
NIMBY said:
The grass roots small donation fund-raising is sweeping the Nation for Democrats and completely contrasts them from dark dirty money from GOP super PACS, two of which are fighting with each other over trumpcare.

GOPs gerrymandered UT-3 to bring in a portion of Salt Lake County where Dr. Allen is from and where Clinton was even with trump; a bit of a backfire known as dummymandering.

Overall in UT-3, McMullin actually finished ahead of Clinton in this CD. There are many small donation sites out there and UT-3 wasn't even on DEMs list of 59 CDs to go after.

As far as your state, GOTV failed miserably in the 11 CDs won by Democrats, averaging well over 100,000 votes less than the national average even though TX is expected to gain 3 CDs next decade .
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I was reading about that. Word is that the Democrats are going to win 463 House seats and pick up 130 Senate seats in the next 6 years. It's going to be damned impressive!
 
Lutherf said:
I was reading about that. Word is that the Democrats are going to win 463 House seats and pick up 130 Senate seats in the next 6 years. It's going to be damned impressive!
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So nothing serious with meaning, another sure sign of trouble in GOP land.

Unlike trump thinking he's playing the board game RISK trying to blow up the ****ing world. That's what you get with chicken**** chickenhawks.

Besides a special for Chaffetz, word is that PA-10 may have one, though it's pretty safe. I'm sure yer comforted to see this 50-state DEM strategy evolve .
 
NIMBY said:
NV-3 and NV-4, along with NM-1 and NM-3, will be hard to hold. The GOP has their target list also, with 36 seats, and those four are on it. KS-4 wasn't even on the list, but KS-2 and KS-3 are.

Heller and then Flake are huge Senate targets for DEMs. I believe Cruz and Fischer are also vulnerable, for all the GOP bragging about a bad Senate map for DEMs.

In your TX, Clinton won 3 CDs won by GOP reps--7, 23 and 32--they're on the DNC list and Sen. Sanders and DNC Chair Pere are currently on an 8-state tour .
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Well I am no longer in TX, they have no med marijuana program so relocated to Mass shortly before the election, MA don't let there Vets suffer with PTSD like Texas does. Cruz will be tough to unseat, but not impossible.
 
Lutherf said:
I was reading about that. Word is that the Democrats are going to win 463 House seats and pick up 130 Senate seats in the next 6 years. It's going to be damned impressive!
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Well, like Russia and you know... stuff. So like, yeah of course.

And stuff.
 
yankintx said:
Well I am no longer in TX, they have no med marijuana program so relocated to Mass shortly before the election, MA don't let there Vets suffer with PTSD like Texas does. Cruz will be tough to unseat, but not impossible.
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Just out is the Georgia Secretary of State's attempt at voter suppression in 61 days.

GOPs in this thread trying to act like politics is a comedy know that it's anything but a game, as they've taught us .
 
NIMBY said:
How frustrating it must be for you, Athanasius, to try and wish away the Russia connections that you have to call fellow posters out by name in this forum.

It's certainly one of the deflective cards that your team has to use when they see an election disaster coming .
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I keep hearing about upcoming electoral disasters for the GOP, and they never quite seem to materialize. Granted, its only 3 months in and anything can happen, and its tough to see that Democrats can continue their general collapse unabated.
 
Then there's this...

Chaffetz's campaign arm registers 2028 websites

Rep. Jason Chaffetz's (R-Utah) campaign committee has registered two domain names suggesting he may be planning a White House run, according to a new report.

The Oversight Committee chairman announced Wednesday he would not be seeking reelection to the House in 2018.

But Friends of Jason Chaffetz registered two web domains more than a week ago, Fusion first reported, citing a search on the WhoIs domain name directory: Jason2028.com and JasonChaffetz2028.com.

The domains were secured by Chaffetz’s campaign arm on April 6. The URLs currently redirect to a generic landing page.​
 
NIMBY said:
So nothing serious with meaning, another sure sign of trouble in GOP land.

Unlike trump thinking he's playing the board game RISK trying to blow up the ****ing world. That's what you get with chicken**** chickenhawks.

Besides a special for Chaffetz, word is that PA-10 may have one, though it's pretty safe. I'm sure yer comforted to see this 50-state DEM strategy evolve .
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Trump is trying to blow up the world? Really? I thought he was trying maximise Trump industries.
Its nice that Sanders (78 years old) is the face of the future of Democratic Party. But you kind of have to replace something with something. The politics of fear only goes so far.
Make an argument. Trump issued an order for the government to buy American. Good or bad? Trump is cracking down on that Hb waiver. Good or bad? Illegal crossings from Mexico are down? Good or bad (can Trump take credit or blame?). Thats what the Dems need to do. Hoping that Trump implodes is not a strategy. Its s prayer.
 
Lutherf said:
I was reading about that. Word is that the Democrats are going to win 463 House seats and pick up 130 Senate seats in the next 6 years. It's going to be damned impressive!
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Republicans best hope for low turnout next Nov, we all know who looses when there is high turnout in midterms, the party in power, and that is a fact.
 
Winston said:
It's possible Chaffetz has seen clear, convincing evidence of Trump committing treason.. And he wants to distance himself as far as possible away from the current administration before they go down.


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so if i said, person [A] possibly may have committed murder, but i have no evidence of it........ should we even go down that road?
 
mbig said:
Not only will he Not run in 2018, looks like he may be stepping down.
He's apparently seen and heard enough.. or the handwriting on the wall.
It's ugly out there/here.

Utah Prepares Special Election as Rep. Chaffetz Says He May Step Down Early
Congressman is top Republican on House Oversight committee
By Natalie Andrews
Updated April 20, 2017 1:54 p.m. ET
https://www.wsj.com/articles/utah-p...affetz-says-he-may-step-down-early-1492708616
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That's the great thing about the conspiracy minded--everything that happens can somehow be twisted to further the CT. As fun as it is to watch, I am starting to feel bad for you guys.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Trump is trying to blow up the world? Really? I thought he was trying maximise Trump industries.
Its nice that Sanders (78 years old) is the face of the future of Democratic Party. But you kind of have to replace something with something. The politics of fear only goes so far.
Make an argument. Trump issued an order for the government to buy American. Good or bad? Trump is cracking down on that Hb waiver. Good or bad? Illegal crossings from Mexico are down? Good or bad (can Trump take credit or blame?). Thats what the Dems need to do. Hoping that Trump implodes is not a strategy. Its s prayer.
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You must not be following North Korea and now trump's lies today about Iran. I'm sure you have excuses for his 'armada' going in the right way also.

Who said that Sanders is the face of the DEM party; there are many faces and the GOP is trying to rhetorically shoot down every one of them.

Buy American? Can you show me proof? How's that American steel thing going on Keystone?

How about the all the promises trump broke on vacations and golf? Let's hear your source's talking points and the tens of millions he's flushing down the toilet, even according to GOP senators.

Hoping that trump doesn't destroy the planet with his childish chickenhawk tweets should be the prayer of all Americans .
 
NIMBY said:
You must not be following North Korea and now trump's lies today about Iran. I'm sure you have excuses for his 'armada' going in the right way also.

Who said that Sanders is the face of the DEM party; there are many faces and the GOP is trying to rhetorically shoot down every one of them.

Buy American? Can you show me proof? How's that American steel thing going on Keystone?

How about the all the promises trump broke on vacations and golf? Let's hear your source's talking points and the tens of millions he's flushing down the toilet, even according to GOP senators.

Hoping that trump doesn't destroy the planet with his childish chickenhawk tweets should be the prayer of all Americans .
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Is Sanders against "buying American"? We both know he isnt (and it was you who noted it was Sanders going on the eight state tour in what is supposedly vulnerable GOP turf). Calling Trump a hypocrite on the subject is not a strategy. One can, after all, argue that such a policy is detrimental to Americans.

One can certainly mock Trump for the Vinson debacle. But should Trump continue the Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama policy toward N. Korea? Or end it, as being nominally anounced?

You guys have a lot more to do than simply hope Trump implodes.
 
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And what did Trump say about Iran? He certified that are honoring the treaty.
 
Winston said:
It's possible Chaffetz has seen clear, convincing evidence of Trump committing treason.. And he wants to distance himself as far as possible away from the current administration before they go down.
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Winston said:
There are 3 separate probes into the Trump campaign and Russia.
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Funny how your defense of a stupid statement about Chaffetz resignation makes a stupid assumption about the guilt of Trump an doesn't actually mention Chaffetz! :lamo
 
jmotivator said:
Funny how your defense of a stupid statement about Chaffetz resignation makes a stupid assumption about the guilt of Trump an doesn't actually mention Chaffetz! :lamo
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I already explained how logical, sensible, and reasoned my comment was.

Not my fault if you didn't take the time to read the thread.

I'm used to people on the right, hurling accusations. I know what it's like to desperately want something to be true. Want and protest all you want to. It doesn't change the facts.
 
Winston said:
I already explained how logical, sensible, and reasoned my comment was.
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It was none of those things. You spun a politicians choice to retire into a Russian conspiracy theory. This isn't sensible and the sooner you come to terms with that the better.

Not my fault if you didn't take the time to read the thread.
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LOL. Is any of your reasoning more detailed than your comment about "3 Russia/Trump Probes"? Because that wasn't as compelling as you seem to think it is...

I'm used to people on the right, hurling accusations. I know what it's like to desperately want something to be true. Want and protest all you want to. It doesn't change the facts.
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HAHAHAHAAHH!! "Chaffetz might be quitting because RUSSIA CONSPIRACY GUILT CRIME RAAARG!!" .... and you fault others for "hurling accusations"? Unbelievable. You need some self awareness. :lamo
 
mbig said:
Utah Prepares Special Election as Rep. Chaffetz Says He May Step Down Early
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Will Chaffetz be reimbursing the state's taxpayers for the cost of that special election?
 
jmotivator said:
It was none of those things. You spun a politicians choice to retire into a Russian conspiracy theory. This isn't sensible and the sooner you come to terms with that the better.



LOL. Is any of your reasoning more detailed than your comment about "3 Russia/Trump Probes"? Because that wasn't as compelling as you seem to think it is...



HAHAHAHAAHH!! "Chaffetz might be quitting because RUSSIA CONSPIRACY GUILT CRIME RAAARG!!" .... and you fault others for "hurling accusations"? Unbelievable. You need some self awareness. :lamo
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Until the Russia thing is put to bed, people will continue to make logical deductions from the happenings in DC.


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Winston said:
Until the Russia thing is put to bed, people will continue to make logical deductions from the happenings in DC.
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Drawing deductions from pure speculation is not logical.

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