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North Korea launches unsuccessful missile attempt, says South Korea

You know who keeps pushing this malfunctioning missile of Kim the Nutcase as being a cyber attack by the U.S.? The UK papers.

If that were so, Kim the Nutcase has had several successful launches. Where was the secret cyber attack when they were successful?

Personally, I am leaning on Divine intervention. :)

And not only that we had an Armada at sea that was equipped to shoot whatever they launched down before in would threaten S. Korea, Japan or our Navy.

Kim the Nutcase is unpredictable. Not sure on how I feel on proceeding. But one thing is for certain whatever didn't go off as planned, Iran has more missiles to provide the little despot for another day. And any of our "friends' in the ME Iran supplies weapons to terrorist groups far and wide that will create havoc in all their lands. Instead of focusing on N. Korea, maybe the best game plan would be to take out Iran. Just a thought.
 
chuckiechan said:
No you are wrong and I'm right because the last thing China wants is a democratic, unified Korea. If Kim is bumped off, China will roll in to preserve the status quo, but without Kim Il Fat Boy.
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Oh please there won't be a democratic unified korean anymore than invading Iraq created a democratic utopia. It would be a mess especially as brainwashed as North Koreans are. Remember how hard it was to un-brainwash the japanese in regards to WWII?
 
Why the hell is everyone making such a big deal about this?

They have had plenty of failures before...every country that had a missile program has.

It means no more to me than any other failure.

it's just the ignorant masses/MSM are more on edge about NK because that is exactly what Trump wants them to be to try and deflect their gaze from what a horrible job as POTUS he is doing.


Eventually, North Korea WILL undoubtedly deploy a nuclear-tipped ICBM that has the range to reach America.

So you better get used to the idea.


Me? Doesn't worry me in the slightest.

They would never dare use them.
 
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China has expressed its desire to end ties with North Korea

South Korea has publicly announced they have emergency plans for the assassination of Kim Jong Un,

We have sent a small strike group to the region, carrying Seal Team 6 and some other special military outfits.

Trump says "The North Korean problem will be over soon".

We also dropped a MOAB on a bunch of terrorists and have attacked a sovereign nation, all within the first 100 days.

If I were Kim, I would be pretty nervous right about now.

*Insert Yoda Meme* I see a few regime changes in your future
 
DA60 said:
Why the hell is everyone making such a big deal about this?

They have had plenty of failures before...every country that had a missile program has.

It means no more to me than any other failure.

it's just the ignorant masses/MSM are more on edge about NK because that is exactly what Trump wants them to be to try and deflect their gaze from what a horrible job as POTUS he is doing.


Eventually, North Korea WILL undoubtedly deploy a nuclear-tipped ICBM that has the range to reach America.

So you better get used to the idea.


Me? Doesn't worry me in the slightest.

They would never dare use them.
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That's a bet no president is willing to make.
 
chuckiechan said:
That's a bet no president is willing to make.
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Nothing they can do about it...unless you invade North Korea...and that would be a bloodbath as I assume they will fight to the death. And airstrikes will accomplish nothing as NK will just move the facilities underground.

Only a moron POTUS would invade NK as they are no threat to American sovereignty if we just leave them alone. They are not exporting terror - they are just a country run by a fat, windbag who has nukes.
America should pull out of SK and let the region fix their own problems.

NK WILL have nuclear tipped ICBM's eventually....end of story. And it does not worry me in the least. Sure, ideally it would be better if they did not have 'em. But they would never dare use 'em so big deal.
And I do not even begin to care what lying POTUS's or the INCREDIBLY incompetent CIA thinks about it.

Any American that is panicking about that has no idea how the world works. If America just minds her own business, it means NOTHING to America. Probably nothing to SK either as the North is just flexing it's muscles to keep it's people repressed.

This is all being blown WAAAY out of proportion...PERIOD.



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chuckiechan said:
That's a bet no president is willing to make.
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I'm not willing to make it.
It's like saying that the toddler playing with a gun might figure out how to load it eventually, but he'll never shoot anyone.

Kim Jung Un is not rational.
 
DA60 said:
Nothing they can do about it...unless you invade North Korea...and that would be a bloodbath as I assume they will fight to the death. And airstrikes will accomplish nothing as NK will just move the facilities underground.

Only a moron POTUS would invade NK as they are no threat to American sovereignty if we just leave them alone. They are not exporting terror - they are just a country run by a fat, windbag who has nukes.
America should pull out of SK and let the region fix their own problems.

NK WILL have nuclear tipped ICBM's eventually....end of story. And it does not worry me in the least. Sure, ideally it would be better if they did not have 'em. But they would never dare use 'em so big deal.
And I do not even begin to care what lying POTUS's or the INCREDIBLY incompetent CIA thinks about it.

Any American that is panicking about that has no idea how the world works. If America just minds her own business, it means NOTHING to America. Probably nothing to SK either as the North is just flexing it's muscles to keep it's people repressed.

This is all being blown WAAAY out of proportion...PERIOD.



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Are you aware he is also selling missiles, and certainly would have no qualms about selling nuclear weapons to forces who would use them against the US? Sticking your head in the sand and presuming Kim will never use a nuke on the USA, nor sell them to someone who will, is putting a lot of faith in a lunatic. And what is the USA supposed to do twenty years down the road when ransom demands outstrip our ability to pay them?

I think we need an "accident" delivered in Kim's bourbon.
 
all this sabre rattling by the USA proves it does not want peace and America is the biggest threat to peace and the free world ... might does not equal right ... North Korea is within it's rights to defend itself and unlike America North Korea has never used Nukes or Chemical weapon's or interfered in other countries elections or overthrow governments it does not like or invade sovereign countries for it's own agenda unlike America
 
Godric1970 said:
all this sabre rattling by the USA proves it does not want peace and America is the biggest threat to peace and the free world ... might does not equal right ... North Korea is within it's rights to defend itself and unlike America North Korea has never used Nukes or Chemical weapon's or interfered in other countries elections or overthrow governments it does not like or invade sovereign countries for it's own agenda unlike America
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Sure, the toddler has never shot anyone before, so let him continue to play with the gun. What could possibly go wrong?
 
Godric1970 said:
all this sabre rattling by the USA proves it does not want peace and America is the biggest threat to peace and the free world ... might does not equal right ... North Korea is within it's rights to defend itself and unlike America North Korea has never used Nukes or Chemical weapon's or interfered in other countries elections or overthrow governments it does not like or invade sovereign countries for it's own agenda unlike America
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Good God Almighty. Wow.
 
DA60 said:
Why the hell is everyone making such a big deal about this?

They have had plenty of failures before...every country that had a missile program has.

It means no more to me than any other failure.

it's just the ignorant masses/MSM are more on edge about NK because that is exactly what Trump wants them to be to try and deflect their gaze from what a horrible job as POTUS he is doing.


Eventually, North Korea WILL undoubtedly deploy a nuclear-tipped ICBM that has the range to reach America.

So you better get used to the idea.


Me? Doesn't worry me in the slightest.

They would never dare use them.
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Illegal immigration is way down, and illegals are fleeing the country. The market is way up. Jobs are way up. Gorsuch was appointed. ISIS is getting pummeled. Assad has been put in his place. North Korea is getting dealt with.

And that's in less than 90 days. Tax reform and healthcare will get addressed eventually.

Real Americans are appreciating the purpose and actions that were much needed.
 
Erod said:
Illegal immigration is way down, and illegals are fleeing the country. The market is way up. Jobs are way up. Gorsuch was appointed. ISIS is getting pummeled. Assad has been put in his place. North Korea is getting dealt with.

And that's in less than 90 days. Tax reform and healthcare will get addressed eventually.

Real Americans are appreciating the purpose and actions that were much needed.
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Illegals have been leaving the country in numbers exceeding entry for years. Trump had nothing to do with it. Deportations war higher under Obama than Bush.

Additionally the stock market has been riding high for some time. Again Trump has nothing to do with it.

ISIS has been on the way out long before Trump.

Assad is being put in his place? WTF planet do you live on? He and Russian are thumbing their noses at us.

As far as jobs I find it interesting that you and your ilk (including Trump) were screaming the the numbers were wrong and unemployment is much worse than it appears. Apparently that's changed. LMAO

As far as NK, nothing has changed since the last three admins except Trump is shooting his mouth off making war more likely.

Your post is absolute partisan nonsense.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Illegals have been leaving the country in numbers exceeding entry for years. Trump had nothing to do with it. Deportations war higher under Obama than Bush.

Additionally the stock market has been riding high for some time. Again Trump has nothing to do with it.

ISIS has been on the way out long before Trump.

Assad is being put in his place? WTF planet do you live on? He and Russian are thumbing their noses at us.

As far as jobs I find it interesting that you and your ilk (including Trump) were screaming the the numbers were wrong and unemployment is much worse than it appears. Apparently that's changed. LMAO

As far as NK, nothing has changed since the last three admins except Trump is shooting his mouth off making war more likely.

Your post is absolute partisan nonsense.
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Whatever makes you feel better.
 
Godric1970 said:
all this sabre rattling by the USA proves it does not want peace and America is the biggest threat to peace and the free world ... might does not equal right ... North Korea is within it's rights to defend itself and unlike America North Korea has never used Nukes or Chemical weapon's or interfered in other countries elections or overthrow governments it does not like or invade sovereign countries for it's own agenda unlike America
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Little boy fat man Kim would shred the U.S. Constitution if he could. And he'd relish the occasion or the opportunity. On this Kim and Xi Jinping agree.

Japan last year installed Patriot antimissile missiles in Tokyo to defend itself against Kim who is making nuclear weapons and their delivery systems against the United States and its allies of the region.

Anyone who might think the DPRK is virtuous or anything less than nuts is himself nuts...and of course of dubious virtue.


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U.S. Patriot PAC-3 advanced missile defense system installed next to Ministry of Defense building Tokyo 2016.


Kim has devastation trained against Seoul in his artillery which in contemporary terms means missiles as well as shells. We know he'd do it. Kim keeps dropping missiles into the Sea of Japan. The last one travelled on a military azimuth directly aimed at a US-Japanese military base.

Since Xi came to power in 2013 he's blurbed to the U.S. about his idealized (and delusional) "new great power relationship." Translated, it's Xi Chinese Dream of a new G2 of the current dynasty in Beijing and the USA together lording over the world. Obama laughed in Xi's face which bent the guy out of shape against OB forever. Xi now sees the realistic opportunity of it with Trump...and cheerfully excluding Russia if possible given the historical antagonisms between China and Russia that have temporarily been sidelined by each.

A good starting point for Xi in the present developing relationship with Trump is to jointly with USA (and ROK) dismantle the Kim regime. Unify the Korean peninsula with demilitarization north of the 38th parallel. Until something of the sort can be mutually arranged and implemented no one can take Xi or Kim seriously. Or Trump too.
 
Northern Light said:
They don't have the resources as a nation to really follow through with their threats. Most of their people are starving, including would-be experts.

Their role is to be China's guard dog, that's about it. The fact that Trump just deployed some of our people to NK is pretty laughable.
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North Korea has proven it has the resources to make both nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles, some of them with considerable range. It would be foolish to assume it will not be able, in time, to make intercontinental ballistic missiles and nuclear warheads which will fit them.
 
RealOklahoman said:
China has expressed its desire to end ties with North Korea

South Korea has publicly announced they have emergency plans for the assassination of Kim Jong Un,

We have sent a small strike group to the region, carrying Seal Team 6 and some other special military outfits.

Trump says "The North Korean problem will be over soon".

We also dropped a MOAB on a bunch of terrorists and have attacked a sovereign nation, all within the first 100 days.

If I were Kim, I would be pretty nervous right about now.

*Insert Yoda Meme* I see a few regime changes in your future
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That "small strike group" will almost certainly get much larger within a few weeks. Off the coast of Oregon, the Nimitz group is engaged in COMPTUEX, the final phase of its workup to combat-ready status. That carrier, its air wing of ninety-odd aircraft, and several of the destroyers and cruisers attached to it will probably proceed to the waters near Korea. And the Reagan, which is stationed in Japan, is having a scheduled maintenance period which began in January cut short. The obvious reason for that is to allow it too, with its accompanying ships, to deploy near Korea.

Those three carrier groups would provide most of the force needed for a "decapitation" strike against North Korea. Placing those forces in position would make the threat real, and I doubt there is much North Korea could do to defend its missile sites, air defenses, and military headquarters and communications facilities from a very large surprise air attack.
 
Erod said:
You have YOUR facts on your side.
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No, there are no "alternative facts" no matter how much some people want to believe it. Either something is factual or it's not.

The facts are Trump is a failure and hasn't done much of anything to speak of no matter how much he lies about it.

The only thing I will give him is he got his SCOTUS nominee in. Of course he forced it which doesn't work in all situations or in the future.
 
joG said:
Downer that it might be, we have nonetheless most probably allowed NK to gain the capability to nuke Seoul.
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President Kennedy deterred a nuclear attack on our allies by making clear what the USSR could expect if it dared to launch one:


"It shall be the policy of this nation to regard any nuclear missile launched from Cuba against any nation in the Western Hemisphere as an attack by the Soviet Union on the United States, requiring a full retaliatory response upon the Soviet Union."

I doubt President Trump is prepared to go that far to protect South Korea from a nuclear attack.
 
matchlight said:
President Kennedy deterred a nuclear attack on our allies by making clear what the USSR could expect if it dared to launch one:


"It shall be the policy of this nation to regard any nuclear missile launched from Cuba against any nation in the Western Hemisphere as an attack by the Soviet Union on the United States, requiring a full retaliatory response upon the Soviet Union."

I doubt President Trump is prepared to go that far to protect South Korea from a nuclear attack.
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In a duopoly MAD works well, if the players are rational. This is increasingly less the case as these circumstances change.
 
joG said:
In a duopoly MAD works well, if the players are rational. This is increasingly less the case as these circumstances change.
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Many people at the time thought Nikita Khrushchev was irrational, and that that made him very dangerous and unpredictable. And yet he became amazingly reasonable when he saw the immense force he was up against in the Cuban crisis. North Korea may have a dozen or so nuclear bombs it could deliver by aircraft. In 1962, the USSR had about three thousand nuclear weapons, some of them on cruise missiles aboard submarines off our coasts. It also had ballistic missiles which could carry warheads of one megaton or even larger--so powerful that even a single one which missed the center of a U.S. city by several miles would still probably have killed a couple hundred thousand people.

I am not trying to downplay the dangers of a confrontation with North Korea. If war were to break out there, many thousands of people would be killed. But I think the best way to avoid that is not to allow ourselves to be intimidated by wild threats, and instead resolve to prevent this regime--by force, if necessary--from developing long-range nuclear missiles. The danger that would present makes the current danger look small in comparison, and it is so great we cannot accept it. This man probably can be intimidated now. But if we let him get weapons like that, our inaction could encourage him to take the next step, and use them.
 
matchlight said:
Many people at the time thought Nikita Khrushchev was irrational, and that that made him very dangerous and unpredictable. And yet he became amazingly reasonable when he saw the immense force he was up against in the Cuban crisis. North Korea may have a dozen or so nuclear bombs it could deliver by aircraft. In 1962, the USSR had about three thousand nuclear weapons, some of them on cruise missiles aboard submarines off our coasts. It also had ballistic missiles which could carry warheads of one megaton or even larger--so powerful that even a single one which missed the center of a U.S. city by several miles would still probably have killed a couple hundred thousand people.

I am not trying to downplay the dangers of a confrontation with North Korea. If war were to break out there, many thousands of people would be killed. But I think the best way to avoid that is not to allow ourselves to be intimidated by wild threats, and instead resolve to prevent this regime--by force, if necessary--from developing long-range nuclear missiles. The danger that would present makes the current danger look small in comparison, and it is so great we cannot accept it. This man probably can be intimidated now. But if we let him get weapons like that, our inaction could encourage him to take the next step, and use them.
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I can only repeat that you might want to think the problems of duopoly vs multipolar structures of international security.
 
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