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The Prime Minister of Sweden has vowed his country will 'never go back' to recent levels of mass immigration after it emerged the terrorist who killed four people in a truck attack was a failed asylum seeker.


Stefan Löfven pledged to change his country's liberal attitude, insisting the massive influx allowed during the 2015 migrant crisis would never happen again.


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"There are more than 3,000 migrants living unlawfully in Stockholm alone, police said."

It seems like there have been lessons learned, but far too late, with high costs, and the costs have only begun to rear their ugly head.

I say "seemed", because all we have to do is look at 911 and the legal and illegal immigration idiocy that has followed in its wake. How quickly is everything forgotten, even with terror attacks in the years following 911 in the west, and the mass of them in the ME.

Words are cheap... Leftists aren't to be believed. They'll say anything, any time, anywhere for votes.

Of course Leftists will contend that last line... but it's your ideology that voted to send troops to war in Iraq, actually asking for a second vote on the matter in the US Senate. What we learned is that vote, sending troops to war, was for political expediency.

Then for political expediency mere months later, the Left turned on these same troops they voted to send to the battle field... at a time when these men and women needed their support most. Once again, the Leftists did it for votes.

When a party is willing to send troops to war for votes, the most sacred vote an elected official can make, and stab these same troops in the back for votes... they'll do anything for votes.

Leftists are Leftists... whether in Sweden or America. They'll say anything, just watch what happens in Sweden with the Left... with time, this will be forgotten. Don;t believe? Look at Brexit. The Left came out in the aftershock and said things would have to change... and yes... they did. They wanted to make the EUSSR superstate even stronger, just the opposite of the message sent.

On another plane, this PM admitted Trump is right, and his policies on immigration and border security correct.
 
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Words are cheap.

Ah! And so with it said we just push our own agendas with the same arguments or statements until people just give in, but they don't because nothing convincing has been said. This mentality wastes time. Words are not cheap.

Leftists aren't to be believed.

Words aren't cheap.
 
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"The Prime Minister of Sweden has vowed his country will 'never go back' to recent levels of mass immigration..."
I read a number of sources yesterday giving variations on this quote but I wasn’t able to find any primary source, even in Swedish. Given all of the quotes seem to paraphrase him without providing any context and most of them appear to be direct copies of each other (as is common with reactionary tabloids), I remain curious as to exactly what he actually said about this. Doesn’t anyone know?
 
Re: Sweden will 'never go back' to the days of mass immigration after failed asylum s

I read a number of sources yesterday giving variations on this quote but I wasn’t able to find any primary source, even in Swedish. Given all of the quotes seem to paraphrase him without providing any context and most of them appear to be direct copies of each other (as is common with reactionary tabloids), I remain curious as to exactly what he actually said about this. Doesn’t anyone know?

The only videos I found did not seem to say that Sweden would or would not allow further immigration. Possibly, they indicated the opposite albeit a more careful type of immigration.
 
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Ah! And so with it said we just push our own agendas with the same arguments or statements until people just give in, but they don't because nothing convincing has been said. This mentality wastes time. Words are not cheap.



Words aren't cheap.

Words are cheap, Obama is a perfect example.
 
Re: Sweden will 'never go back' to the days of mass immigration after failed asylum s

The only videos I found did not seem to say that Sweden would or would not allow further immigration. Possibly, they indicated the opposite albeit a more careful type of immigration.
The problem is that he's made a number of speeches and statements about the topic (understandably given his position) but these quotes imply something he said after the recent attack in Sweden and that I couldn't find a reliable primary source for.

It's just the kind of thing that should make us all think twice about what we're being told in general.
 
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All EU countries including Sweden have for several years had very strict board controls against non-EU countries. This have led to that the EU countries with around 500 million people only get around a couple of hundred thousand asylum seekers a year and of those only around 100 000 people can stay a normal year. Compared to Lebanon a country with four million people that have taking way more than one million refugees.

The reasons that Sweden have taking a larger share of refugees are because there are no internal borders between EU countries and the EU countries can’t agree on a way distribute the refugees between the members states. While Sweden had a more humane asylum policies like for example that you could reunite with your family and Sweden also had a good reputation internationally. So many refugees went through Europe to Sweden.

That became a problem in 2015 then Turkey, a country that taking in many more refugees then EU, no longer wanted to act as board police for the EU. So, you did see swift and large increase in numbers of asylum seekers to the EU there Sweden got 160 000 asylum seekers because the EU country couldn’t agree on a way to distribute the refugees.

So, Sweden was forced to implement the same harsh asylum policies as other countries and temporarily reinstated boarders against EU countries. That at the same time the EU country made new deals with Turkey so you had a drastic decrease in numbers of refugees to Europe. Still the Sweden prime minister have said that Sweden must keep the new harsh laws so long as the EU countries can’t agree on how distribute the refugees amongst the member state.

That what happened during 2015 wasn’t Sweden or any “liberal countries” fault instead it was because the lack of common refugee’s law in EU and Turkey’s action. Also, Stefan Löfven didn’t make any mention against “mass immigration” after the attack. What he said was that you can look how you can better handle the people that get their asylum request denied. That a no is a no.

Also, it’s very sad that then it comes to Islamic extremist attacks you have demands for extreme meausers that will affect a lot of innocent people and even the spread of false stories like this one. While it seems to be little concern for far-right wing terrorist. That you have for example Breivik that killed almost eighty people. Still you have newspapers like Daily Mail that spread fake stories like this. Or take for example how Fox News invited a right-wing extremist to their show.

Ingrid Carlqvist says in the segment that Sweden has reached a "critical mass" of immigrants that "don't love Sweden" and "don't love Swedish people".

The Fox Business anchor ends the interview by exclaiming: "Sweden is not Swedish anymore, oh my gosh."

What the viewers are never told is that Ingrid Carlqvist has been a central player in the anti-Muslim counter-jihad movement. Nor are the viewers made aware that she recently accused "representatives of the ethnic group of Jews" in Sweden of being behind Sweden's cultural diversity, a conspiracy theory that Swedish nazis have long promoted.

Carlqvist is known for her hard-line anti-Muslim views. In December 2016, on a podcast run by members of the violent nazi organization "Nordic Resistance Movement", she declared that she wants to drive out all Swedish Muslims from the country. (Radio Regeringen #28, 21 December 2016.)

Notorious Swedish right-wing extremist touted as expert by Fox Business
 
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Words are cheap, Obama is a perfect example.

Or in Obama;s own words... "words... just words" and plagiarized at that.
 
Re: Sweden will 'never go back' to the days of mass immigration after failed asylum s

The problem is that he's made a number of speeches and statements about the topic (understandably given his position) but these quotes imply something he said after the recent attack in Sweden and that I couldn't find a reliable primary source for.

It's just the kind of thing that should make us all think twice about what we're being told in general.

And as I do not speak Swedish the search is restricted to only English, French and German reporting.
 
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All EU countries including Sweden have for several years had very strict board controls against non-EU countries.
Pure, unadulterated bull****.

It was 2-years ago Europe was caught with its pants around its ankles as a million or more invaded Europe.

The one thing the EU should have been prepared for, but wasn't. After 911, after the oodles of boats finding the shores of Italy, after all the warnings... the EU showed how massively incompetent it is. How absolutely clueless it is.

I saw it first parts of the invasion first-hand, having to drive from Munich to Salzburg to pick up friends and clients as they tried to stem the tide by halting trains from SBG to MUC. I had a fiend comment on the number of foreigners on the trains, not realizing what was happening.

In Sverige alone the numbers are between 162,000 and over 300,000.


The reasons that Sweden have taking a larger share of refugees are because there are no internal borders between EU countries...
Wrong again. There are borders, and like Obama did with our southern border, the EU left theirs open. Some have been closed at main arteries.

While Sweden had a more humane asylum policies like for example that you could reunite with your family and Sweden also had a good reputation internationally. So many refugees went through Europe to Sweden.
Humane... yes... as terror threats, sexual predator rapists have entered the country. That's humane. The fun has just begun. And it's not as if they did not know the problem. Muslims have been wreaking havoc in Malmö and Göteborg for quite some time. Today we have small towns like Östersund making international news, as women are advised to stay at home in the evenings due to sexual predators.

It's going to cost Swedes $18.6 Billion for those refugees, and of the refugees... less than 500 have jobs. That's about a zero unemployment rate for the 318,000.
Refugees Will Cost Sweden $18.6 Billion This Year?9.3x Over-Budget | National Economics Editorial

Det är en stor fy fan.
 
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And as I do not speak Swedish the search is restricted to only English, French and German reporting.
Me neither though online translators can help to an extent. I wasn’t challenging or attacking you (or even the OP) though. I just think this is something to consider before developing a whole narrative on the basis of a very specific statement someone is said to have made, especially when it’s presented as a partial, edited and possibly translated form and when it’s presented in the same format across a series of media outlets, all with a particular bias favouring a particular interpretation. :cool:
 
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The right-wing kool-aid cup runneth over in this thread.
 
Re: Sweden will 'never go back' to the days of mass immigration after failed asylum s

Ah! And so with it said we just push our own agendas with the same arguments or statements until people just give in, but they don't because nothing convincing has been said. This mentality wastes time. Words are not cheap.

Words aren't cheap.

Well, the lessons of history show us the Leftists words are cheap. They say anything.

When Leftist Senators and Congressmen sent troops to war, and turned around and back stabbed them... for political expediency on both counts... Leftists will say anything... and do. They have no morals, and if it wasn't for double standards, they'd have none.

I expect this attack to be forgotten, and the words of this Swedish PM to be as lasting as the last turd he flushed to the sewage treatment facility.
 
Re: Sweden will 'never go back' to the days of mass immigration after failed asylum s

Me neither though online translators can help to an extent. I wasn’t challenging or attacking you (or even the OP) though. I just think this is something to consider before developing a whole narrative on the basis of a very specific statement someone is said to have made, especially when it’s presented as a partial, edited and possibly translated form and when it’s presented in the same format across a series of media outlets, all with a particular bias favouring a particular interpretation. :cool:

That's cool. 'Didn't feel attacked. Only explaining my limits.

;)
 
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The right-wing kool-aid cup runneth over in this thread.

That post means nothing... which is typical of Leftists with nothing to say.

After years of terror attacks around the world, after leaving borders open, after watching Leftists in America protest for open borders, after watching judges block a president's immigration order, after the EUSSR gets slapped with Brexit, claims to have learned something and then wants to make it an even stronger EUSSR ... you really think Leftists words are believable?

LOL... you folks are unbelievable... and if your idiocy wasn't so destructive... hilarious too.
 
Re: Sweden will 'never go back' to the days of mass immigration after failed asylum s

All EU countries including Sweden have for several years had very strict board controls against non-EU countries. This have led to that the EU countries with around 500 million people only get around a couple of hundred thousand asylum seekers a year and of those only around 100 000 people can stay a normal year. Compared to Lebanon a country with four million people that have taking way more than one million refugees.

The reasons that Sweden have taking a larger share of refugees are because there are no internal borders between EU countries and the EU countries can’t agree on a way distribute the refugees between the members states. While Sweden had a more humane asylum policies like for example that you could reunite with your family and Sweden also had a good reputation internationally. So many refugees went through Europe to Sweden.

That became a problem in 2015 then Turkey, a country that taking in many more refugees then EU, no longer wanted to act as board police for the EU. So, you did see swift and large increase in numbers of asylum seekers to the EU there Sweden got 160 000 asylum seekers because the EU country couldn’t agree on a way to distribute the refugees.

So, Sweden was forced to implement the same harsh asylum policies as other countries and temporarily reinstated boarders against EU countries. That at the same time the EU country made new deals with Turkey so you had a drastic decrease in numbers of refugees to Europe. Still the Sweden prime minister have said that Sweden must keep the new harsh laws so long as the EU countries can’t agree on how distribute the refugees amongst the member state.

That what happened during 2015 wasn’t Sweden or any “liberal countries” fault instead it was because the lack of common refugee’s law in EU and Turkey’s action. Also, Stefan Löfven didn’t make any mention against “mass immigration” after the attack. What he said was that you can look how you can better handle the people that get their asylum request denied. That a no is a no.

Also, it’s very sad that then it comes to Islamic extremist attacks you have demands for extreme meausers that will affect a lot of innocent people and even the spread of false stories like this one. While it seems to be little concern for far-right wing terrorist. That you have for example Breivik that killed almost eighty people. Still you have newspapers like Daily Mail that spread fake stories like this. Or take for example how Fox News invited a right-wing extremist to their show.



Notorious Swedish right-wing extremist touted as expert by Fox Business

No, this is quite wrong. There are no 'strict controls' Anyone who arrives at a Swedish border says the magic words "I claim asylum" is admitted and then receives benefits, accommodation, free health care and free dental care while his claim is examined - which can take a year or two. So much for the absurd claim that Sweden has "harsh asylum policies". If his claim is turned down he will continue to received cash, though at a reduced rate, and medical and dental care. Btw I, a Swedish citizen pay a lot for dental treatment while someone here ILLEGALLY gets it for free.

In the latest opinion poll the Swedish Democrats, who actually have opposed mass immigration for decades, are the largest party with 27.5%. PM Löven's Socialists are on 23.2%. I do not believe anything Löven says - he is a trade union official who has never even stood for public office before he became his party's leader. His government is a coalition of the Socialists and the Greens who combined got 37% in the last elections.
 
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His government is a coalition of the Socialists and the Greens who combined got 37% in the last elections.

Oh fy fan... I didn't realize it was that bad. The Watermelons... Green outside, red inside. What a vile situation... sounds like having Obama running the country.
 
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Oh fy fan... I didn't realize it was that bad. The Watermelons... Green outside, red inside. What a vile situation... sounds like having Obama running the country.

Worse. To be as bad as Löven Obama would have had to let 32 million unvetted Muslims into the country - the population of the US is 32 times bigger than that of Sweden.

And Obama could actually make pretty speeches.
 
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"There are more than 3,000 migrants living unlawfully in Stockholm alone, police said."

It seems like there have been lessons learned, but far too late, with high costs, and the costs have only begun to rear their ugly head.

I say "seemed", because all we have to do is look at 911 and the legal and illegal immigration idiocy that has followed in its wake. How quickly is everything forgotten, even with terror attacks in the years following 911 in the west, and the mass of them in the ME.

Words are cheap... Leftists aren't to be believed. They'll say anything, any time, anywhere for votes.

Of course Leftists will contend that last line... but it's your ideology that voted to send troops to war in Iraq, actually asking for a second vote on the matter in the US Senate. What we learned is that vote, sending troops to war, was for political expediency.

Then for political expediency mere months later, the Left turned on these same troops they voted to send to the battle field... at a time when these men and women needed their support most. Once again, the Leftists did it for votes.

When a party is willing to send troops to war for votes, the most sacred vote an elected official can make, and stab these same troops in the back for votes... they'll do anything for votes.

Leftists are Leftists... whether in Sweden or America. They'll say anything, just watch what happens in Sweden with the Left... with time, this will be forgotten. Don;t believe? Look at Brexit. The Left came out in the aftershock and said things would have to change... and yes... they did. They wanted to make the EUSSR superstate even stronger, just the opposite of the message sent.

On another plane, this PM admitted Trump is right, and his policies on immigration and border security correct.

When FOX has in the past, edited out the context of quotes from Swedish police officers, in order to push a propaganda narrative, that supports their fantasy-land narrative, it's odd that you expect anyone to take you seriously. As a subsequent poster further clarified, he would like the full context of the PM statements, not a driveby Daily Mail smear job. I find it exceedingly difficult to believe your claims. Just like teenagers wear their hearts on their sleeves, you wear your ideology on your forehead. The Daily Mail's integrity as well as your credibility have been KO'd, sacrificed to serve the purpose of saying, "nyah nyah, nyah, nyah, I told you the Left and Muslims are bad."

I await any real evidence of how the Prime Minister reacts to this tragedy, and my condolences go out to those affected. Your attempt to politicize a tragedy is noted, and discarded into the trash bin where it belongs.
 
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Europe is ****ed. Heres hoping we can learn from their mistakes before we jump into the frying pan with them.
 
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That post means nothing... which is typical of Leftists with nothing to say.

After years of terror attacks around the world, after leaving borders open, after watching Leftists in America protest for open borders, after watching judges block a president's immigration order, after the EUSSR gets slapped with Brexit, claims to have learned something and then wants to make it an even stronger EUSSR ... you really think Leftists words are believable?

LOL... you folks are unbelievable... and if your idiocy wasn't so destructive... hilarious too.

I get it, right wingers hate foreigners and "multiculturalism" Right wing talk radio and media has indeed done it's job over the last 30 years of turning aging white men into a cantankerous angry lot who want to blame their insecurities on every group and demographic.
 
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Europe is ****ed. Heres hoping we can learn from their mistakes before we jump into the frying pan with them.


Exactly.

If we don't put a stop to immigration America is destined to fall into Third World chaos--you like the way it is in Somalia?

Well, unless we quickly fix our policies......we'll have Somalia.......RIGHT HERE.

:2usflag:
 
Re: Sweden will 'never go back' to the days of mass immigration after failed asylum s

Ah! And so with it said we just push our own agendas with the same arguments or statements until people just give in, but they don't because nothing convincing has been said. This mentality wastes time. Words are not cheap.



Words aren't cheap.
What you are actually, when translated, saying is that nothing has been said that will convince someone adamantly, steadfastly, stubbornly clinging to a left inspired meme, not one from the right and so one most certainly wrong, you know, the left's view of the world. No amount of rational talk, evidence, facts or lining up the dots to form a line pointing towards truth will convince someone who has allowed that thick cloak to hermetically seal, veil authenticity, the one that conjures up falsehoods fueling the purist's imagination on the left.

No, talk is not cheap. Not properly dealing with the truth when it meets the reality is very expensive, has already cost us many priceless innocent lives all around the globe.
 
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Exactly.

If we don't put a stop to immigration America is destined to fall into Third World chaos--you like the way it is in Somalia?

Well, unless we quickly fix our policies......we'll have Somalia.......RIGHT HERE.

:2usflag:

Yeah, sure. We're right on the brink. Somalia. Ok. :roll:

Somalia country profile - BBC News
 
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Exactly.

If we don't put a stop to immigration America is destined to fall into Third World chaos--you like the way it is in Somalia?

Well, unless we quickly fix our policies......we'll have Somalia.......RIGHT HERE.

:2usflag:
We dont have to put a stop to immigration. We need to put a stop to illegal immigration and we need to return to the concept that those immigrants that we bring to America will become Americans, and not Somali's, or Syrians, or Mexicans, or anyone being Somali's living in America. We have guest worker programs for people that want to come here and work and then return home...thats fine. too. We just need to do a better job of vetting people coming in and tracking them.
 
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